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- map and compass.
totally outdated.. this is the electronic age ... cell phone and additional GPS unit as back up in more than he will ever need.

( there was a story of a hiker in the "great gulf" of the white mountains... of of these wanna-be hikers I told you about... took off on a solo hike...when his GPS died and he got lost he phoned his wife to say he got lost ( how he got phone reception in there is beyond me ) and then his phone died.

forest service of course had to rescue him, took 2-3 days as I remember.
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totally outdated.. this is the electronic age ... cell phone and additional GPS unit as back up in more than he will ever need.

( there was a story of a hiker in the "great gulf" of the white mountains... of of these wanna-be hikers I told you about... took off on a solo hike...when his GPS died and he got lost he phoned his wife to say he got lost ( how he got phone reception in there is beyond me ) and then his phone died.

forest service of course had to rescue him, took 2-3 days as I remember.
No way can you rely solely on modern technology - useful until batteries go, it gets water in it, or it just fails - even if you have a solar powered charger - you still need sun.

The tried and tested are still the best - even if just for backup.
A position triangulation is just as accurate as a GPS.
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Old 13.08.2012, 12:17
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No way can you rely solely on modern technology - .
I'm sure LiB, using his superior woodsman knowledge, could dead-reckon by the stars if he got in trouble.
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- Trangia cook stove (which includes cook pots), plus Trangia alcohol (brennsprit) fuel bottle;
TiMow I like your list, and of course everybody has his/her own preferences, but LiB, if you go for the Trangia cook stove... man, be careful with that stuff.
We were forced to use one for a week once, and the summary: It works, but:
- It took us 45-60min to get water boiling (just enough water for soup for two, nothing wild!)
- Don't ever use it on a stone, however clean the stone looks... this thing gets hotter underneath than above. And it's hard to see what's happening as everything is covered. (Luckily, after we put the fire out, we found a road clear of any grass, moss, pine needles, etc to still have a warm meal that day, and the days afterwards)
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

LiB, just one more thing.... before you head off into the wilds of Switzerland could you lend me the keys to your apartment?

I'll make sure everything is there if , I mean when you get back.
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Old 13.08.2012, 12:29
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LiB, just one more thing.... before you head off into the wilds of Switzerland could you lend me the keys to your apartment?

I'll make sure everything is there if , I mean when you get back.
Hiking in Switzerland is easy - just go downhill! If people around you start speaking Italian, turn around 180° and go back.
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Old 13.08.2012, 12:39
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TiMow I like your list, and of course everybody has his/her own preferences, but LiB, if you go for the Trangia cook stove... man, be careful with that stuff.
We were forced to use one for a week once, and the summary: It works, but:
- It took us 45-60min to get water boiling (just enough water for soup for two, nothing wild!)
- Don't ever use it on a stone, however clean the stone looks... this thing gets hotter underneath than above. And it's hard to see what's happening as everything is covered. (Luckily, after we put the fire out, we found a road clear of any grass, moss, pine needles, etc to still have a warm meal that day, and the days afterwards)
Yeah ... there is a bit of an art, which may require a bit of advanced practice.

Were you using the full-size model or the mini-Trangia (I have both)? The base of the full-size Trangia should be stable enough as to not require a flat base like a stone, and the cook flame is fully enclosed and protected.

The simmer ring should not be used, when fast boiling is required - or ... what fuel were you using, and was the pot covered to conserve heat?

The beauty of the Trangia design (not mini-Trangia, though), is that you can cook more than one dish at a time with just one stove, by inter-changing pots and keeping one pot warm on top of the other.

... and everything - including pots and pans/lids store within itself for a small, lightweight cooking and eating set ...... I luv 'em.
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and a clue.

I used to work in a camping / hiking shop in the states... I used to love it when first time wanna-be hikers would come in with a shopping list half a mile long

"will sir, be requiring a pack mule with that ? "

and then asking where they are planning on hiking and find they are going to do an afternoon hike in Vermont.
LiB will need a mule just to carry all the toilet paper he'll need to make his toilet seat 'donuts'
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

If I was you I would do this:

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a. Get hiking boots
b. Get a small backpack for dayhikes

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Bring a bottle of water and some snacks, do a couple of day hikes around Aletschgletscher and Jungfraujoch.

3.

See if you like it, do an overnight hike where you stay in one of the cabins provided by SAC, www.sac.ch.

4.

See if you still like it, if you do, get a tent + proper equipment (big backpack, water cleaning stuff, stove, sleeping bag, etc).

I wouldnt overinvest in stuff before you know what you like, it's better to buy it piece by piece than buying everything before you have some experience..

Also i'm curious about the wilderness, is there any true wilderness in CH?

and some more random bonus advice:

* Of course you should buy your stuff in Germany
* Wear two pairs of socks to avoid getting blisters
* Boots is the single most important piece of equipment
* My preferred sunday stroll is to take the lift up to a ridge, walk for some hours and then finish with a nice meal, i did it in stoos www.stoos.ch once, that was kind of cool. Lifts usually close crazy early.
* Dont go to Wanderweg der Schweiz, that trail sucks
* Red+white trails are fine, I would stay away from the blue+white if I was you
* http://www.wanderland.ch/de/welcome.cfm is not bad for finding trails and stuff
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

Has he been camping in the UK with some of the 'working class youth subculture'?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
I expected to open that link and find a pic of my nephew ( in law )
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

Maybe this would be interesting for you:

http://bergtrekking.ch/uploads/media...biwakieren.pdf

(Campieren und biwakieren in den Schweizer Bergen)

It used to be on the SAC site but I couldn't find it there, it's from 2004 but I can't imagine anything has changed in Switzerland since then..
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Yeah ... there is a bit of an art, which may require a bit of advanced practice.
And a woollen blanket to put out any unwanted forest fires

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Were you using the full-size model or the mini-Trangia (I have both)? The base of the full-size Trangia should be stable enough as to not require a flat base like a stone, and the cook flame is fully enclosed and protected.
It was the full-size model. It is stable, but will burn down everything underneath it, even if it is part of a forest

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The beauty of the Trangia design (not mini-Trangia, though), is that you can cook more than one dish at a time with just one stove, by inter-changing pots and keeping one pot warm on top of the other.

... and everything - including pots and pans/lids store within itself for a small, lightweight cooking and eating set ...... I luv 'em.
Of course, many people love them. They might have a learning curve... I just found them too dangerous to use in the environment I like to go camping in, and also bothersome in that you fill them up, and that's it. You have to burn all the fuel in one go, let it cool down before refilling, and have to wait until it is all burnt up.
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About those koalas.....

http://australianmuseum.net.au/Drop-Bear/
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

Jetboil stoves are great for quick boil and don't take up too much room in your pack. http://shop.jetboil.com/index.php/sol-cooking-ti.html

On a related topic - does anyone know if wild camping is allowed anywhere at all in Switzerland? I have yet to find it if it is...
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Get some Migros sandwiches and a map. Go for a walk in the hills behind Olten, head north and get the bus & train back. Tell us if you like it and we can then go on to part 2.
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