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Old 13.08.2012, 13:51
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

I would also pack a headlamp, and make sure you tell someone where you are going and when to expect you back by.

Usually the trick with wild camping is having light enough stuff, having enough of it, and not too much. MSR makes some great stuff. I am really happy with the Rocket stove, and Thermarest makes some great thin matresses (which are as much a cold barrier as they are for comfort).
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

has anyone seen LiB this rmorning?

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Re: Introduction into wild camping

Well if you cannot find any koalas, the Swiss do have recipies for cat
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

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For one stop shopping, Transa's probably your best bet.

http://www.transa.ch/de/shop-zurich

- Lightweight tent, with breathable inner tent and waterproof full fly sheet;

- 3 season sleeping bag;

- backpack;

- Trangia cook stove (which includes cook pots), plus Trangia alcohol (brennsprit) fuel bottle;

- waxed, non safety matches;

- dried/dehydrated, high calorie hiking meals;

- cutlery set and mug (usually the one carrying the backpack);

- Batbelt, for hunting knife, multi-purpose tool, hand axe, shovel, machete, etc.;

- water container and purifying tablets;

-first aid kit;

- hiking shoes/boots, plus lightweight sandals for camping area;

- wet weather gear - 2 piece;

- 1 change of clothes;

- map and compass.
I would agree with most of this.. having done multi day back county hikes myself... I generally follow some simple rules (most of which you have already heard)

- proper gear (all mentioned above minus the belt)
- a rope 15+ meters long
- dry bag to store ALL food in
- ziplock back or two for those maps to keep em dry
- don't need a complete change of clothing, but you should have separate sleeping clothing from your hiking stuff - you can also take your shirt and toss it in some water to rinse out the smell and let it hang dry
- knife is a must
- small hatchet is very good to have if you want fire
- the three season sleeper is a good idea as well.. it does get cold even in the summer.. they also allow you to sleep in very light clothing and keep warm.
- def an extra pair of socks and 1 pair of undies

I have a very large backpack with strong back support which everything fits into nicely so I don't look like a mental case (well I do, but for other reasons) while out and about

things to think about

when finding a camping spot, try to pick something up on a flat surface, with good views if possible. There is nothing better than unzipping the outer lining with a beautiful view first thing in the morning

if you will want to do a fire, please try to find a spot that already has had a fire pit. fires destroy the land and the fewer pits the better. but, if you cannot and must have a fire, then please properly construct the fire pit. .

for your food... it is very important that you store all food and things that might even smell like food, in that dry bag. Then, take that bag, along with your rope, to a tree maybe 30-50 feet away from your tent, and sling it up in the air over the tree. Not sure if you will have a bear problem where you go, but there are plenty of creatures that love free food. this will keep them all away from you. They frankly don't care about you, just eating.

and... try not to stress when sleeping every time you hear a noise... the hardest thing for people to get over is the idea that the slightest noise means to them there is a bear outside the tent ready to eat them
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Re: Introduction into wild camping

There's been a couple good post listing equipment.

Here my 2 cents.
I went wild camping and hiking for the first time in Norway in 2010. I had never slept in a tent before, and never hiked with a backpack for hours. I went with my boyfriend who had tried this before. Now of course, we didn't start small, with one day-hike, then one overnight, etc, we dove into 1 week at once. But I'd recommend starting small. I prepared for our weeklong trip by loading my backpack and hiking in fields around my house for hours to see how I'd cope with the load and if I'd get blisters/pain anywhere.

For your first overnight (1 night), I'd recommend keeping it simple, don't bring a stove, just stuff that doesn't require cooking. And a thermos of hot tea or whatever hot drink you like. And go with another person!

Pack:
- a swiss knife
- quick drying trousers, maybe with zippers to turn them into shorts if you get hot easily
- quick drying undershirt
- extra shirt to change in if you get sweaty or soaked
- 2 pairs of socks
- fleece
- wind/rainproof jacket
- lightweight tent
- headlamp (handy to keep your hands free)
- sleeping bag, the comfort temperature should be the temperature that you expect during the night.
- sufficient water for 2 days
- Food (snacks during the walk, 1 dinner, 2 lunches, 1 breakfast): cereal bars and mixed nuts and sultanas, chocolate bread, those dried sausages, some cheese, fruits that dont get mushy,...)
- spoon/fork depending on the food you bring
- MAP in a plastic sleeve and an extra copy in your bag.
- compass
- raincover for your backpack
- hat to protect you from sun
- sunglasses
- toilet shovel and paper
- another person (2 persons is safer)
- clock (you'll want to know how late it is when you wake up)
- toothbrush/toothpaste
- earplugs (if your companion snores, if rain/wind is loud, if animal noises freacks you out)
- hiking shoes
- a couple plasters and maybe some antiseptic/desinfectant if you hurt yourself.

It's best to borrow equipment for your first try, or until you know if you like it. No point in investing straight away, and you'll also know better what equipment you want/need after having camped a few times.

There a post on EF about wild camping.
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