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Re: Fast Food

once again only slightly off topic

http://worldradio.ch/wrs/news/switze...er.shtml?32123

re. McD .. their food is prepared in a sterile controlled environment, then it's handed to a pimply 16 year old kid to cook.
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Hence the numerous stomach issues related to badly prepared food.
All I'm saying here, that a Kebab is not healthier than a Big Mac as stated in my previous post.
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Old 23.08.2012, 13:32
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Hence the numerous stomach issues related to badly prepared food.
Read my post above regarding Chilis - also an American chain.
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Why is McDonalds the only international fast food chain here?
If I can just turn the question around - how is it that McDonalds have been able to survive when others have not?

More importantly, what could we do to remedy the situation?

By which I mean, of course, get rid of McD as well.

It genuinely astonishes me that anyone could view fast-food chains as anything other than a bad thing. Clearly, even on here, some folks crave stuff like KFC (yuck) and a recent thread about McD 'fries' revealed that quite a few folk must eat there too. But, for god's sake, why?

I mean, I like a decent burger as much as the next man, but the ones from these so-called fast-food chains are generally a pale shadow of what you'd get in any half-decent restaurant, so why would anyone prefer them?

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Old 23.08.2012, 13:41
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Re: Fast Food

And theres always Mr. Wongs YUM
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Old 23.08.2012, 13:45
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And theres always Mr. Wongs YUM
OMG.. one of the girls in our section is trying to organize an in office luncheon to celebrate our team being together 10 years... and she has yes actually suggested ordering in from Mike Wongs.

we won't make 11 years
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Old 23.08.2012, 13:47
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I would disagree. As McDonald's food comes from a sterile, controlled environment and undergoes a high quality standardized procedure in terms on how it's processed.
True - they even have a machine that scans the tops of the baps to make sure the amount of sesame seeds is within a certain range. (I've visited the factory in Crissier )
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If I can just turn the question around - how is it that McDonalds have been able to survive when others have not?

More importantly, what could we do to remedy the situation?

By which I mean, of course, get rid of McD as well.

It genuinely astonishes me that anyone could view fast-food chains as anything other than a bad thing. Clearly, even on here, some folks crave stuff like KFC (yuck) and a recent thread about McD 'fries' revealed that quite a few folk must eat there too. But, for god's sake, why?
Umm... I'll take this one- it's because we like the taste of the food! Don't take away my greasy indulgence!

Fast Food, in and of itself, is not a bad thing; it's nice to be able to get something tasty and filling when you're in a hurry or (especially here in Switzerland) at odd hours. The people that consume fast food in excess, exposing themselves to health risks related to any kind of overeating, are the ones who give fast food the bad rap. We just forget that nobody shoved the umpteenth Big Mac down their throat but themselves. Nobody super-sized their meal but themselves.

And as for "slow food" being better for you- has anyone seen Julia Child's or Paula Deen's cooking?
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Old 23.08.2012, 13:55
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I would disagree. As McDonald's food comes from a sterile, controlled environment and undergoes a high quality standardized procedure in terms on how it's processed.
You've obviously never eaten in some of the MickeyD's that I have - average cleanlines, and non-existent standardisation - especially relating to the photos on the wall (*recalls* Michael Douglas in Falling Down).

Anyway, even mobile kebab wagons need a food hygiene type certificate thingy.

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... and, yet, this is the same person that insists on eating Kentucky Fried Rat.
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Old 23.08.2012, 13:55
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Re: Fast Food

BK and McD's is fast food? Somebody needs to break the news to the staff in the Basel outlets.

Espesiclly BK - I usually have to wait 8-10 minutes every time I've been there.
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If I can just turn the question around - how is it that McDonalds have been able to survive when others have not?

More importantly, what could we do to remedy the situation?

By which I mean, of course, get rid of McD as well.

It genuinely astonishes me that anyone could view fast-food chains as anything other than a bad thing. Clearly, even on here, some folks crave stuff like KFC (yuck) and a recent thread about McD 'fries' revealed that quite a few folk must eat there too. But, for god's sake, why?

I mean, I like a decent burger as much as the next man, but the ones from these so-called fast-food chains are generally a pale shadow of what you'd get in any half-decent restaurant, so why would anyone prefer them?


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There must be a double standard out there as most people would never admit to liking it, yet they are almost always hopping, especially here! I will admit to sometimes craving a good big mac or whatever, and then afterwards wonder what I was thinking!

In Switzerland it is the only restaurant I can afford and if you have kids you can appreciate the treat it offers every now and again.
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Old 23.08.2012, 14:06
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Old 23.08.2012, 14:10
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If I can just turn the question around - how is it that McDonalds have been able to survive when others have not?

More importantly, what could we do to remedy the situation?

By which I mean, of course, get rid of McD as well.

It genuinely astonishes me that anyone could view fast-food chains as anything other than a bad thing. Clearly, even on here, some folks crave stuff like KFC (yuck) and a recent thread about McD 'fries' revealed that quite a few folk must eat there too. But, for god's sake, why?

I mean, I like a decent burger as much as the next man, but the ones from these so-called fast-food chains are generally a pale shadow of what you'd get in any half-decent restaurant, so why would anyone prefer them?
I think the US fast food chains here play a slightly different role than they do in the US.

Admittedly, I only really know three regions of the US well (California and the southwest, the Pac North West and Ohio and vicinity) so I cant speak for all 300milllion of us, but in the parts of the US ive observed and lived in, McDonalds et al is for parents with small kids, teenagers, and the poor. (and these groups do overlap). I remember as a kid going to mcdonalds was a huge treat.

While the same does apply here too I think it’s a little different: McDonalds also seems to play the role of the late night post club-bar diner like Denny’s. And I find myself eating there occaisionally because it’s the cheapest thing around. There is simply no other way to get a burger/sammich, pommes AND a drink for “only” 12 CHF. I never used fast food chains for this purpose in the US because of taquerias or places like chipotle.

Since food is so much cheaper in the US than anywhere in Europe but ESPECIALLY here, McDonalds doesn’t have the sole occupier of the “cheapest food” it has here.

On an unrelated note, there are now FOUR burger kings in the Zürich HB. FOUR! There’s one in the main hall, one in the main basement area, one in the smaller basement at the western end, and at the very edge of the HB complex, literally 30m from the previously mentioned BK, there’s a “BK Express”. So if you want to go get some Burger King, you can stop at a Burger King after getting some Burger King before youre done with your Burger King. Burger King.

Barftastic!

I strongly support the Qdoba/taqueria/chipotle idea. There’s absolutely a need and market for the “order at the counter get your number called pick up your food in a basket” Mexican food here. Taquerias RULE!
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Old 23.08.2012, 14:18
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Read my post above regarding Chilis - also an American chain.
What other chains would it be, it's not like any other country produces the amount of franchised restaurants.
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Umm... I'll take this one- it's because we like the taste of the food!
Don't be silly.

Now what's the real reason?
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BK and McD's is fast food? Somebody needs to break the news to the staff in the Basel outlets.
Well quite. Hence my "so-called" fat-food comment above.

Haha, what an amusing, possibly freudian, typo. I think I'll leave it in
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Re: Fast Food

while I am generally ok with denigration of fast food chains, I simply cannot abide any negative posts about Kentucky Fried Chicken. and yes, it is "Kentucky Fried Chicken", not the abomination that is sometimes called "KFC". and no, it is not the same in Europe as it is in the US - the chicken is a reasonable approximation, but the "corn" on this side of the pond is a joke, the biscuits aren't even in the same ballpark, and the corn bread, cole slaw and mashed potatoes with gravy are totally missing.

all of my children have made the pilgrammage to Corbin, Kentucky to sample the finest fried chicken ever made at its place of origin. I couldn't even be bothered to fathom a guess as to where McDonald's or any of that other shiite was hatched.
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while I am generally ok with denigration of fast food chains, I simply cannot abide any negative posts about Kentucky Fried Chicken..
KFC is disgusting c**p.

What you going to do about that, punk?
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all of my children have made the pilgrammage to Corbin, Kentucky to sample the finest fried chicken ever made at its place of origin. I couldn't even be bothered to fathom a guess as to where McDonald's or any of that other shiite was hatched.
While I do appreciate your devotion for the noble fried poultry I have to say, that the story of Mc Donald's is a rather epic one and nothing would emphasize more of what the American dream is than what Richard and Maurice McDonalds and Ray Kroc have achieved. I mean, they set a worldwide industry standard and basically took the production line concept from the automotive industry and transplanted it into the food industry, whilst ensuring the very same taste and quality throughout the country. Nowadays, it's the most successful restaurant chain in the world and it's amazing to simply think, that this one location in San Bernardino, CA layed the pathway for every Mc Donald's franchise in the world, be it Calcutta, Shanghai or Zurich.
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Umm... I'll take this one- it's because we like the taste of the food! Don't take away my greasy indulgence!
totally agree with you...i've tried holy cow burger (which said to be the best burger in Lausanne, and now open in Geneva) and i still think that what they have in McD and BK taste better. I wish we have BK and KFC in Lausanne
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