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Old 30.08.2012, 15:30
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If I am right in saying your friend owns the cafe, then bar then from the cafe, get the police involved and if necessary get an injunction taken out.
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Old 30.08.2012, 15:37
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Re: Witness of threat and almost violence

Straight from the Swiss Criminal Code:

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Art. 13596 Representations of acts of violence
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Any person who produces, imports, stores, markets, promotes, exhibits, offers, shows, makes accessible or makes available sound, film or video recordings or other products in which acts of extreme violence against persons or animals are portrayed, without reasonable cultural or scientific grounds therefor, and in doing so seriously offends basic human dignity shall be liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty.

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Any person who acquires, procures by electronic or any other means, or possesses the recordings or other products mentioned in paragraph 1 above, provided these portray acts of violence against persons or animals shall be liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding one year or to a monetary penalty

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The articles concerned shall be forfeited.

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If the offender acts for financial gain, he shall be liable to a custodial sentence not exceeding three years or to a monetary penalty. The custodial sentence must be combined with a monetary penalty.
Not sure if that's relevant here though as it was acts of aggression but not violence? Take is as you will...
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if the job is in a cafe and the owner/boss doesn't do anything about it AND it has been going on for a while AND it won't change AND it's gotten to the point where her boyfriend is threatening him.

why doesn't he just find a new job? it's not like it is a tough market for cafe workers- there are jobs open in the field constantly and even if everything worked out and he didn't get his A** kicked by the boyfriend why would he want to stay there with a boss who does nothing and everything else?
Apparently the thug spends each day moving from one cafe to the next. He is like a real life troll. Changing jobs won't save OP's friend unless he moves to a kitchen based job
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Straight from the Swiss Criminal Code:



Not sure if that's relevant here though as it was acts of aggression but not violence? Take is as you will...
You cite the so called "Brutalo Artikel". It is totally irrelevant in this case. First, the video has documentary character. Second, the said video does not show "acts of extreme violence, which offends basic human dignity". That would be extreme torture, mass murder etc.. The article targets snuff, slasher and extreme gore movies.
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You cite the so called "Brutalo Artikel". It is totally irrelevant in this case. First, the video has documentary character. Second, the said video does not show "acts of extreme violence, which offends basic human dignity". That would be extreme torture, mass murder etc.. The article targets snuff, slasher and extreme gore movies.
Yeah I kinda see that now, But still was the only reference i could find with regards to video and criminal act...
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Yeah I kinda see that now, But still was the only reference i could find with regards to video and criminal act...
Look from Art. 179bis onward. As it was recorded in a public place it should be not a problem.

But this and this could be relevant regarding publication.
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Look from Art. 179bis onward. As it was recorded in a public place it should be not a problem.

But this and this could be relevant regarding publication.
Or par 1 of this may be relevant... regarding threat.
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and almost violence
"Almost" doesnt normally count for anything.




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Well, this couple are notorious. People are afraid of both of them as the are both aggressive many times with others. No one dares say anything due to their overly aggressive natures. When we spoke to other friends about it, they also said that they had been threatened by him before. I hope this will die down. I cant even think to leave him alone and I cant sleep/eat
You probably don't have anything to worry about honestly...If the guy's wife was around he was probably showing off in front of her as well...On the other hand, if you were in America someone would have been shot of course...Don't worry.
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Re: Witness of threat and almost violence

Sorry I was away for a while, but thank you for all your help! I think that avoiding and moving on is not a choice. Someone can always find you, no matter where you are. This must be solved, but the thug has to learn to use his brains first and not his testosterone level. The thing that sickens me is that the woman who instigated all this wants to play b*tch, but she cant even fight her own battles.Grrrr.....
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Re: Witness of threat and almost violence

Report it officially to the police so you're on record and that you have evidence to back it up. Then, if he comes in again and make threats, call the police immediately to tell them he's there making threats and then start filming him again. If you don't yet any action from the police then complain and also complain to the commune/cantonal authorities. Keep all your films as records of the incidents and if all else fails then take it to the local paper.

Sometimes you have to be really persist in getting things moving, but it can be done. Don't let anyone bully or threaten you. Unfortunately, people seem to try and avoid taking action when it's necessary. If the cafe owners all stood together and barred them then it might be a different story. Sometimes the "silent majority" just has to speak up.
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Apparently the thug spends each day moving from one cafe to the next. He is like a real life troll. Changing jobs won't save OP's friend unless he moves to a kitchen based job
apparently. or he could consider cosmetic surgery, personally it seems the best option

and op, i've never known a thug to use their brain, so a plan b may be in order
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...This guy just kept shouting at him in German "you are stupid, you are an ass**le."...
if being told in German that "you are stupid, you are an asshole" is grounds to worry about your physical safety, then I need an armed bodyguard, stat.
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Re: Witness of threat and almost violence

When do we get to see the video?

As they'd say on some forums "video or it didn't happen"
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