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Re: What's the biggest advantage of living in Switzerland ?

Definitely the outdoors for me. In less than 2h by train you can be up in the mountains, whereas in the UK that barely gets you out of London! Weekend: summer lakeside/hiking and winter snowboarding is awesome
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Old 20.09.2012, 16:44
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Don't know about biggest, but here are some advantages in my view:

-quality of life, especially food quality! (I start appreciating this more when I'm abroad)

-safety/security (maybe a little less nowadays)

-punctuality (quite important to me! Things usually run on time)

-hygiene (clean streets etc..), I think this also contributes to the overall good health of people here

Boring options I guess!

I don^t know, the food quality doesn^t seem that great. mabe thats beacsue I am living on a studen budjet =)
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Please, stop this quality of life nonsense..as the yearly studies hardly come up with any meaningful data to account a real quality of life standard.
There does exist a set of standard QoL measure used in the Health industry, but I don't think that's what we're talking about here. The _feeling_ of quality of life is entirely subjective, but just because you can't measure it doesn't mean it's not real.
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Old 20.09.2012, 17:37
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There does exist a set of standard QoL measure used in the Health industry, but I don't think that's what we're talking about here. The _feeling_ of quality of life is entirely subjective, but just because you can't measure it doesn't mean it's not real.
There are certain basic criterias which determine "quality" of life. However, the ignorants at Mercer do not take these criterias into account for whatever reason. It has nothing to do with the perceived quality of life..although much of that seems to be attribute to Switzerland's reputation. However, reality may differ to those who open their eyes.
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Old 20.09.2012, 17:57
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Definitely the outdoors for me. In less than 2h by train you can be up in the mountains, whereas in the UK that barely gets you out of London! Weekend: summer lakeside/hiking and winter snowboarding is awesome
Approximately 2 hours by train out of London gets you to quite a few nice places including quite a range of seaside resorts, quite a few nice cities worthy of a pleasant day out (including Oxford, Cambridge, Canterbury, York, Bath, Salisbury etc) and attractive green areas with trekking possibilities (New Forest, Cotswolds etc, add some more minutes and you can make it to Exmoor or the Pennine Way). There are even quite a few places in France that are within 2 hours of London.
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Approximately 2 hours by train out of London gets you to quite a few nice places including quite a range of seaside resorts, quite a few nice cities worthy of a pleasant day out (including Oxford, Cambridge, Canterbury, York, Bath, Salisbury etc) and attractive green areas with trekking possibilities (New Forest, Cotswolds etc, add some more minutes and you can make it to Exmoor or the Pennine Way). There are even quite a few places in France that are within 2 hours of London.
and the weathers generally shite in all of them ;-). Seaside resort, UK, snickers to oneself.
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Old 20.09.2012, 18:07
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and the weathers generally shite in all of them ;-). Seaside resort, UK, snickers to oneself.
What's the weather got to do with it? I usually go for the strip clubs bracing sea air.
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Old 20.09.2012, 18:22
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Approximately 2 hours by train out of London gets you to quite a few nice places including quite a range of seaside resorts, quite a few nice cities worthy of a pleasant day out (including Oxford, Cambridge, Canterbury, York, Bath, Salisbury etc) and attractive green areas with trekking possibilities (New Forest, Cotswolds etc, add some more minutes and you can make it to Exmoor or the Pennine Way). There are even quite a few places in France that are within 2 hours of London.
you can get from london to manchester in 2 hours. and the weather in manchester is famously good!
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Old 20.09.2012, 19:16
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you can get from london to manchester in 2 hours. and the weather in manchester is famously good!
What is this Manchester of which you speak?
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you can get from london to manchester in 2 hours. and the weather in manchester is famously good!
So they have sprinklers in the roof at Old Trafford then
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Approximately 2 hours by train out of London gets you to quite a few nice places including quite a range of seaside resorts, quite a few nice cities worthy of a pleasant day out (including Oxford, Cambridge, Canterbury, York, Bath, Salisbury etc) and attractive green areas with trekking possibilities (New Forest, Cotswolds etc, add some more minutes and you can make it to Exmoor or the Pennine Way). There are even quite a few places in France that are within 2 hours of London.
Homey, pah-lease!
London? London- bad food, worse weather, Mary f-ing poppins
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Re: What's the biggest advantage of living in Switzerland ?

nipping across the border to DE , buying things at a fraction of the swiss prices and then claiming back an additional 16% without having to pay any swiss charges
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Old 21.09.2012, 11:28
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nipping across the border to DE , buying things at a fraction of the swiss prices and then claiming back an additional 16% without having to pay any swiss charges
Loser. I claim 19%.
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Loser. I claim 19%.

you buy something for 100.. you claim the 19%, how much do you get back ?
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Re: What's the biggest advantage of living in Switzerland ?

Oh dear, I seem to have offended a few brits my apologies.
I admit I have haven't been trekking a lot in the UK, so stand to be corrected.

What I meant was, its very hard to have the same geographical diversity (I love mountains) within a 2h radius as here (especially if you add the commute to liverpool st + ticket buying)
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Approximately 2 hours by train out of London gets you to quite a few nice places including quite a range of seaside resorts, quite a few nice cities worthy of a pleasant day out (including Oxford, Cambridge, Canterbury, York, Bath, Salisbury etc) and attractive green areas with trekking possibilities (New Forest, Cotswolds etc, add some more minutes and you can make it to Exmoor or the Pennine Way). There are even quite a few places in France that are within 2 hours of London.
True, however this doesn't include the hour required to get from your home to the train station

I don't know how expensive train travel is in Switzerland, but here in the UK is very expensive - a return day ticket to Oxford can cost as much as 54 pounds. Going to France by train is also prohibitively expensive. In general, travel needs to be well researched and carefully organised, unless you're willing to be fleeced. Kills any attempt of spontaneity, for sure.
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Kills any attempt of spontaneity, for sure.
It's illegal here, anyway.

Train tickets here are very expensive if you just rock up and buy a return. It's around 140 CHF return from Basel to Lausanne for example. Almost everyone who lives here buys a "half price card", for approx. 140 CHF a year, which halves the price of train travel. So the return above would cost 70 CHF.

With advance planning it's possible to buy tickets based on exact trains (the prices above allow you to get on any train at any time) or even buy a day ticket from your local council for 40 CHF.

Most people don't pay 50 for a return to Oxford. Students take the coach, anyway.
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It's around 140 CHF return from Basel to Lausanne for example. Almost everyone who lives here buys a "half price card", for approx. 140 CHF a year, which halves the price of train travel. So the return above would cost 70 CHF.
Can even be 58 CHF with the 1 day travel pass for the half price card...after 09.00. And you can multibuy those as well, 6 for the price of 5. Many many ways to make the best fare.....
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It's illegal here, anyway.

Train tickets here are very expensive if you just rock up and buy a return. It's around 140 CHF return from Basel to Lausanne for example. Almost everyone who lives here buys a "half price card", for approx. 140 CHF a year, which halves the price of train travel. So the return above would cost 70 CHF.

With advance planning it's possible to buy tickets based on exact trains (the prices above allow you to get on any train at any time) or even buy a day ticket from your local council for 40 CHF.

Most people don't pay 50 for a return to Oxford. Students take the coach, anyway.
I get sick on coaches - we're lazy and we want to drive when going outside the city anyway. This of course doesn't work well in London, where one can easily drive for two hours and still not get out... It's actually one of the things I'm looking forward to experiencing again, once we move to Zurich: to be able to get in our car and not be stuck in traffic for hours.

The good part about London is of course that it has plenty of entertainment in itself, and wonderful restaurants and pubs. We're sure we'll miss those
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I get sick on coaches - we're lazy and we want to drive when going outside the city anyway. This of course doesn't work well in London, where one can easily drive for two hours and still not get out... It's actually one of the things I'm looking forward to experiencing again, once we move to Zurich: to be able to get in our car and not be stuck in traffic for hours.

The good part about London is of course that it has plenty of entertainment in itself, and wonderful restaurants and pubs. We're sure we'll miss those
I don't want to burst your bubble but Zurich has some horrendous traffic as well.
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