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5. Australian public transport is akin to a country with much less wealth. Switzerland is 1000 miles ahead.
In fairness, though, Switzerland has great population density (191 people per square km) which makes a highly-developed public transit system not only plausible, but a very good idea. There are few other countries in the world that have this population density, and for the ones that don't (such as Australia at 3 people per square km), it seems normal that they would have less developed transit systems.
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6. I prefer Australian food, more variety, restaurants are generally better quality and less expensive, but Swiss supermarkets have everything
Yep, Oz food much better in general. Cheaper, more of it, better cuts of meat, better choice, wider range, you can buy it all day round and even on Sundays - oohaah.

I am craving a real coffee and am counting the days until I can get to ITA or GB and order a proper cappuccino. Considering opening a place that does real coffee and egg and bacon rolls

BTW - Swiss supermarkets do not have everything you need. They do not have bacon, proper vinegar or real cheddar cheese.
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BTW - Swiss supermarkets do not have everything you need. They do not have bacon, proper vinegar or real cheddar cheese or brown sugar .
Just a little edit to help Juddernaut.
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in Winti, supermarkets vary widely based on where you live. the biggest, I think are the migros at Rosenberg (via number 3 bus from main station) , migros in the Nieuweissen (across from train station) and coop in the gruezemarkt - I don't know which bus that's on. the coop in town next to the manor, and the coop at the Loki are decent (the Loki is across the street from McDonald's). the nice thing is that between trains and buses you can get pretty much anywhere.

cheap food...hmmm, a challenge. no end of pizza and kebab joints. not always cheap. sometimes the coop and migros restaurants are ok in a pinch.

I 've found people to be very friendly. I usually say that my German isn't good and start into my crap German. often their English is better, and I never mind when people correct me.

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BTW - Swiss supermarkets do not have everything you need. They do not have bacon, proper vinegar or real cheddar cheese.

Yes, it's a nuisance; they don't have steak and kidney pies either, nor proper pork pies. I've looked everywhere for Marmite and Bisto.

Makes you wonder doesn't it...
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Just a little edit to help Juddernaut.
Don't tell me they don't sell brown sugar? What do they put on their weet-bix?
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Is it just me or are beef sausages impossible to find?
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Re: First impressions of Switzerland

Don't stress about the swiss german too much, I have been here for five years and have started with german courses.
I find English and german will get you by, a freind told be one day swiss german is only a off shout of german.
After several years you will catch on it depends if people will help you out.
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8. Agreed on cats, although cats seem less friendlier here.
Affirmative. I always stop to have a chat with a cat, and the Swiss cats simply stare at you, unbelieving. What's with that? I never see anyone harass them.
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Yep, Oz food much better in general. Cheaper, more of it, better cuts of meat, better choice, wider range, you can buy it all day round and even on Sundays - oohaah.

I am craving a real coffee and am counting the days until I can get to ITA or GB and order a proper cappuccino. Considering opening a place that does real coffee and egg and bacon rolls

BTW - Swiss supermarkets do not have everything you need. They do not have bacon, proper vinegar or real cheddar cheese.
That's strange, I can buy bacon, real vinegar and a huge choice of cheese far surpassing any cheese shop in Australia.

I guess if you like plasticky kraft cheddar then you might have a hard time finding it.
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Re: First impressions of Switzerland

One thing I miss, is going to a take away sandwich shop and having the shop make it to your taste. It seems there is nothing like this in Switzerland, they are almost always pre-made (with crap you dont like).
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In fairness, though, Switzerland has great population density (191 people per square km) which makes a highly-developed public transit system not only plausible, but a very good idea. There are few other countries in the world that have this population density, and for the ones that don't (such as Australia at 3 people per square km), it seems normal that they would have less developed transit systems.
Transport varies state to state, and I certainly understand the challenge to manage transport over larger distances, however in the state I come from (Victoria) there is strong resistance to invest any money into the system, instead relying on external privatised operators to bear the brunt. Trains are slow, almost always not on time, old, and security is poor. For a country that has a comparable economy of scale to Switzerland it is not really a good track record.
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That's strange, I can buy bacon, real vinegar and a huge choice of cheese far surpassing any cheese shop in Australia.

I guess if you like plasticky kraft cheddar then you might have a hard time finding it.
A huge choice of cheese perhaps, but no real vintage Cheddar available at Coop or Migros. Haven't seen plastic Kraft either but that is not in the scope of real cheese. If there is real bacon in our Coop or Migros then I am a Dutchman.
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A huge choice of cheese perhaps, but no real vintage Cheddar available at Coop or Migros. Haven't seen plastic Kraft either but that is not in the scope of real cheese. If there is real bacon in our Coop or Migros then I am a Dutchman.
Let's go shopping and I will show you bacon, it might not be the same type of bacon you are after, but you can buy bacon, it is thinner and great in the oven, not classic rashers we get in OZ, but it is bacon.

I have seen cheddar in the stores before, perhaps it is only available in select stores.
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Re: First impressions of Switzerland

OK, I know the stuff you are talking about now. It does have bacon written on it, but there the similarity ends.
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Re: First impressions of Switzerland

Nice observations, but you missed an important one:

In Switzerland, we keep our native kangaroos and wallabies locked up in fenced off areas during the daytime. At night they're free to graze and pose for photographs with tourists.
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One thing I miss, is going to a take away sandwich shop and having the shop make it to your taste. It seems there is nothing like this in Switzerland, they are almost always pre-made (with crap you dont like).
Subway is everywhere
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Subway is everywhere

In Chur there is a great place called "Serge's". They make sandwiches & salads to order. They even cut the meat and cheese off the block to order. Def a favourite of mine when missing a fresh, made to order sanga from Aus!!
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Staring -- yes, it does exist.

Last Friday I went to a restaurant in Chur for dinner. After I sat down, a sweet little girl nearby stared at me for at least four minutes, as if I had a glob of marmelade on my nose. Big sky-blue eyes with a stare that looked right into my soul.

Turned out she was the daughter of a fellow EFer from down under.

Thanks again to Puhutes for organzing that nice dinner!


Yes, she has definitely loves to stare at people!! (Would have thanked you for the post if I had that ability yet!!)
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Subway is everywhere
Subway is processed crap, I am interested in a real sandwich.
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