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I am 24 and been offered a job to move over to Zurich, what's it like ?

Hi I am 24 and have been offers a job to move to zurich , what's it like and is it a good city to move to ? Thanks
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They speak German in Zürich. Are you OK with that?
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They speak German in Zürich. Are you OK with that?
Depends on the Job, but I doubt it will be an issue.
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If I had the chance, I would! Good luck on whatever you decide!
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Re: I am 24 and been offered a job to move over to Zurich, what's it like ?

Thanks,
English speaking job so that shouldn't be an issue, but what is the place like, as in is it good fun to live and a friendly place? Is there alot of exppats there? I have heard it is quiet a bit more than London.
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English speaking job so that shouldn't be an issue, but what is the place like, as in is it good fun to live and a friendly place? Is there alot of exppats there? I have heard it is quiet a bit more than London.
Who told you that? There are only around 50 expats, it's a complete dive, but it dwarfs London.

Good to see you've done some basic research beforehand before making such a momentous decision.
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Re: I am 24 and been offered a job to move over to Zurich, what's it like ?

Sorry meant to say I have heard it quite a bit more expensive than London is that true ?
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Sorry meant to say I have heard it quite a bit more expensive than London is that true ?
At todays exchange rate yes, however 5 years ago London was more expensive. I guess your salary & lower tax bill will more than compensate.
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Sorry meant to say I have heard it quite a bit more expensive than London is that true ?
Are you one of those lucky bastards for whom great opportunities just land in their laps as you move through life with no care in the world?

What is the job? What field? You are awfully young
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Re: I am 24 and been offered a job to move over to Zurich, what's it like ?

http://www.englishforum.ch/daily-lif...f-library.html

This might help you, as a start. Happy reading
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Sorry meant to say I have heard it quite a bit more expensive than London is that true ?
Lots of info available on this forum and online to help you with that, do some reading up.

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Sorry meant to say I have heard it quite a bit more expensive than London is that true ?
Its more expensive. As fatmanfilms says taxes are lower and assuming you are getting a higher salary than London you'll probably be fine financially.

There are lots of expats but Zurich is not London. Its tiny in comparison and there is a lot less going on and a lot of it is obviously going to be in Swiss German although you will get by with English.

If you like mountains, outdoor stuff, skiing, theres plenty of that. Weather is better than London. London is significantly more fun for a 20 something.
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Move and don't think twice about it. I wish I had moved here at 24.
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Move and don't think twice about it. I wish I had moved here at 24.
One more vote for this approach.
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Re: I am 24 and been offered a job to move over to Zurich, what's it like ?

Hi,
I don't know the nature of your offer so I can't be certain. This is an expensive country so make sure your fixed cash compensation is good. Also I don't know if you're coloured or not, speak German or not etc. and that can affect the social aspects at times.

With regards to the rest of it:

1) Quality of Life is of the highest standard I have come across. I think the Nordics and perhaps Canada could put up some competition but Switzerland really is great that way. The environment, the public systems (transport, utilities etc.), the average condition of homes, safety, education, sanitation, food, water etc.

2) Socially, this is a challenging place. I define it as an introverted and private country. It's not just for expats - the Swiss are very private people. Offhand chit-chat is not terribly common although I think the country is changing a bit, it's not very uncommon in the bigger, more expat populated towns like Zurich, Zug, Geneva, Luzern etc. Luzern's special since a lot of tourists transit there so they'll be a little extra nice.
Zurich is DEFINITELY quieter than most other major cities and is more like Oslo, Stockholm, or Munich than NYC or London. However, there is more than adequate night life and pubbing to be had. Check out www.usgang.ch for the club scene or hangout in Zurich's Niederdorf, Escher-Wyss Platz area or Langstrasse area to do some pub crawling. I believe it has more than enough to offer in this area. The one thing I've noticed is that some clubs don't easily let coloured people inside, then again there are some that do.
If you're thinking making friends or meeting women well, that can take time or maybe you get lucky. German speakers are at an advantage in Zurich although a lot people do speak English acceptably well but on the chatting-with-the-hot-chick-at-the-bar scene it's more likely German that works unless you're an Adonis.
Foreigners are not necessarily loved or welcomed by all since some view at as intrusion into and disruption of the Swiss way of life. Unfortunately, some just hate foreigners especially the coloured kind; I guess that happens in other western countries too. And remember, it will never be obvious, the facade is always soft and courteous - that's the local style.

3) Since you're making a career move, I've got to tell you, the Swiss dislike the Anglo-Saxon style of working: they like things planned out in great detail and a degree of consensus to be reached before implementation. Further, they have a distinct dislike of foreigners as superiors so they may subtly slow things down for you in rather impercptible ways. If you're coloured that goes double. Nonetheless, there're exceptions and then there's you: play it smartly and be aware (neither positive nor negative) at work, and you should do just fine. I remember being overly positive for 3 years and repeatedly ignoring the negative signs until they literally stared me in the face. Never get attached to either the country or the organisation without very careful, evolving and objective evaluation.

I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for, but you can ask specific questions to get the info you need.
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Yes, and you can find brown sugar in coop/migros (isle three ...)
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Re: I am 24 and been offered a job to move over to Zurich, what's it like ?

I hear a lot of people say London is more happening. Whilst I can see the statistics, it misses the point that if you are from London, London is not novel whereas Zurich is somewhat exotic. Not quite like a job offer in Singapore, tokyo or hong kong, but Zurich is quite cosmopolitan and I'd say it's happening. Plus you can become outdoorsy even if you aren't in Uk, and you'll probably be into wine by the end of it too (go beyond the tacky Irish/English pubs some expats gravitate to).

Good luck, take opportunities whilst you can. Plus Zurich is bloody great.
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Hi,
I don't know the nature of your offer so I can't be certain. This is an expensive country so make sure your fixed cash compensation is good. Also I don't know if you're coloured or not, speak German or not etc. and that can affect the social aspects at times.

With regards to the rest of it:

1) Quality of Life is of the highest standard I have come across. I think the Nordics and perhaps Canada could put up some competition but Switzerland really is great that way. The environment, the public systems (transport, utilities etc.), the average condition of homes, safety, education, sanitation, food, water etc.

2) Socially, this is a challenging place. I define it as an introverted and private country. It's not just for expats - the Swiss are very private people. Offhand chit-chat is not terribly common although I think the country is changing a bit, it's not very uncommon in the bigger, more expat populated towns like Zurich, Zug, Geneva, Luzern etc. Luzern's special since a lot of tourists transit there so they'll be a little extra nice.
Zurich is DEFINITELY quieter than most other major cities and is more like Oslo, Stockholm, or Munich than NYC or London. However, there is more than adequate night life and pubbing to be had. Check out www.usgang.ch for the club scene or hangout in Zurich's Niederdorf, Escher-Wyss Platz area or Langstrasse area to do some pub crawling. I believe it has more than enough to offer in this area. The one thing I've noticed is that some clubs don't easily let coloured people inside, then again there are some that do.
If you're thinking making friends or meeting women well, that can take time or maybe you get lucky. German speakers are at an advantage in Zurich although a lot people do speak English acceptably well but on the chatting-with-the-hot-chick-at-the-bar scene it's more likely German that works unless you're an Adonis.
Foreigners are not necessarily loved or welcomed by all since some view at as intrusion into and disruption of the Swiss way of life. Unfortunately, some just hate foreigners especially the coloured kind; I guess that happens in other western countries too. And remember, it will never be obvious, the facade is always soft and courteous - that's the local style.

3) Since you're making a career move, I've got to tell you, the Swiss dislike the Anglo-Saxon style of working: they like things planned out in great detail and a degree of consensus to be reached before implementation. Further, they have a distinct dislike of foreigners as superiors so they may subtly slow things down for you in rather impercptible ways. If you're coloured that goes double. Nonetheless, there're exceptions and then there's you: play it smartly and be aware (neither positive nor negative) at work, and you should do just fine. I remember being overly positive for 3 years and repeatedly ignoring the negative signs until they literally stared me in the face. Never get attached to either the country or the organisation without very careful, evolving and objective evaluation.

I'm not sure if this is what you were looking for, but you can ask specific questions to get the info you need.
OP, listen to the advice of this poster, which is spot on. At 24, you can afford to take the chance for the adventure and the experience, and if it turns out to be the wrong choice, you just turn the page and start over.
If you are a risk-averse person like me, give it a try but with an exit plan in case you don't like it.
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