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This is not a "view", it's statistical reality.
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The problem Apartheid created was millions and millions of unskilled labour. Black people were restricted. So now, with the black economic empowerment laws, SA is trying to redress the problem by making it mandatory to hire black people in private companies and in govt. If we didnt have these laws, most black people wouldnt have the jobs they have today. Most of the true wealth and skill is still in the hands of one race. In the past, black people only became either teachers or nurses or mine workers. Of course, we do have those exceptions.

There is now a debate that the BEE laws are like apartheid but in reverse.But frankly and honestly speaking??Many companies would not hire black people if they were not forced to do so.Its a sad reality...

The hardest fact is that it has only been 18 years since our independence...how can we fix centuries of racism and oppression in 20 years?not possible...Its a very very slow process. Someone once said Apartheid was designed in such way to affect generations to come. The way black people were forced to live in certain areas, the way they were educated and so on...

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My sister lives in SA, and she was highly amused, so amused that she had to phone to tell me the story ...... She had to phone the tax office for a tax clearance certificate for her company and was told her file is confidential as she is "a member of parliament" .

She tried telling the lady in tax office she was just an ordinary person helping her husband run a small company and they needed the tax clearance to bid on a job. "No no, you ARE a member of parliament, it say so here on my computer, and I am not allowed to divulge your tax status" she was told.

"Well, considering it is MY tax status we are discussing, can you please send me that certificate?"
"No, it is not allowed".

So, my sister has been elected, without her knowledge, to a position in parliament. Now she`s waiting for her salary....... ..... and hoping she does not have to then pay "income tax" on that hypothetical income?

Ja, it is rather a pathetic state of affairs, huh? I wonder if SA will ever get it`s feet out of the mud?
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This is not a "view", it's statistical reality.
You know, there was once a stat that said 50% of Botswana has HIV...Now i have family in Botswana and I can certainly tell those stats were wrong. I have had these conversation many times with people back home and in Botswana. If the stats were correct, then half my family should have HIV...I always give stats a second thought...
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My sister lives in SA, and she was highly amused, so amused that she had to phone to tell me the story ...... She had to phone the tax office for a tax clearance certificate for her company and was told her file is confidential as she is "a member of parliament" .

She tried telling the lady in tax office she was just an ordinary person helping her husband run a small company and they needed the tax clearance to bid on a job. "No no, you ARE a member of parliament, it say so here on my computer, and I am not allowed to divulge your tax status" she was told.

"Well, considering it is MY tax status we are discussing, can you please send me that certificate?"
"No, it is not allowed".

So, my sister has been elected, without her knowledge, to a position in parliament. Now she`s waiting for her salary....... ..... and hoping she does not have to then pay "income tax" on that hypothetical income?

Ja, it is rather a pathetic state of affairs, huh? I wonder if SA will ever get it`s feet out of the mud?
hahaha.....thats funny!!!Im sorry to laugh at this but thats everyday life in SA!
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You know, in SA, its somewhat the same, depending where you are and the crowd. So for instance, people under 30 year will never chat to a person who they consider "ugly" and of course, i would think its worldwide!I can promise you that as a foreigner in SA, if a woman thinks you are hot, she will most definitely chat to you!

But do you really think its worse in Swiss?

Worldwide, many people are superficial...very sad...
Well, again just from my experience, in other countries people will chat with me, and I can randomly talk with strangers and it's not a 'hot or not', I want to pick you up situation. But I've found here that as soon as you speak with someone of the opposite sex, their defenses go up as they think you're trying to pick them up. Similarly perhaps they don't approach unknown unless they are interested in 'more' than just a chat or friendship.
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You know, there was once a stat that said 50% of Botswana has HIV...Now i have family in Botswana and I can certainly tell those stats were wrong. I have had these conversation many times with people back home and in Botswana. If the stats were correct, then half my family should have HIV
erm, no. Basic statistics course: you have a bowl with 20 red balls and 80 white balls. If you pull out 10 balls, how many red ones do you get? The expected value is of course 2, but you might also get 0 or 10.
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erm, no. Basic statistics course: you have a bowl with 20 red balls and 80 white balls. If you pull out 10 balls, how many red ones do you get? The expected value is of course 2, but you might also get 0 or 10.
Whatever your statistics, I do NOT believe that average people have that stuff so much in their mind.
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