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Christmas? I am not ready at all. Summer was so short this year. I still feel like this...
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Don't you mean "poor, poor parents"?
Both - really. Having so may toys that you value none for more than a few minutes is not good imho- and the constant 'I want this, that and the other' created by those Christmas adverts starting in September is ridiculous ... and sad.
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Old 04.10.2012, 16:07
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Re: Christmas is here...

It's not as bad as North America. We used to complain about back-to-school sales beginning early august. They start almost before school is over now.

The thankgiving/halloween commercial rush has been long sqouzen into one, and lately the halloween/christmas commercial potential has crossed over.


Mind you, I'm referring solely on stores pushing money making merchandise. Although I might add, the halloween/christmas crossover of doing halloween lights much like christmas lights on houses has become entertaining:
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Old 04.10.2012, 22:24
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So many toys ? Depends on the parents. My brother and me got between three and five toys (depending on size, and of course one each from Godfather and Godmother) each at Christmas, my brother got four on 7th April and I got four on 15th October. So that brother and me carefully co-ordinated our efforts over the years, but had to be careful with the gifts, not least when we got older and wanted to have books and records. We so had to be careful.

When my brother, sometimes in a fury about model-aircraft kits not really fitting threw them onto the ground and left, and I was almost in tears, Mum intervened and we gave the stuff to my best friend who repaired them and under a longterm agreement could have one out of two free of charge. The one for me got the "colours" NOT desired by brother to make it clear that it belonged to ME . I still own two such models, more than 45 years later !

Amazingly, it had nothing to do with the money available. My friend was out of a nicely affluent family, to put it mildly, but never got a lot and always had to be careful.

Well, brother and me on holidays in the house of Grandmum, got repair-material from her.

The grandmum who took us on long hikes towards Germany and along the border we had to search border-stones. Swiss ones and those marked "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" (Federal Republic of Germany / 1949 onwards to the 50ies/60ies) got one piece of chocolate, those marked with "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire /1871-1949) got TWO pieces and those still marked with "Grossherzogtum Baden" (Grand Duchy of Baden / upto 1871) got THREE . Interesting was that the older ones were in what already had become Swiss territory while the new ones were between 5 and 100 meters farther north. It was an area which already then was a kind of "green frontier" with no controls anywhere. We sometimes walked ahead into the next German village to a nice "Gasthof" where we got a Zitro-Limonade or something thelike and Grandmum either "än suure Moscht" or a glass of wine. Alright, she paid in D-Mark, but she always had some Reichsmark/D-Mark with her all her life.
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Re: Christmas is here...

jingle bells.. ahem
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The grandmum who took us on long hikes towards Germany and along the border we had to search border-stones. Swiss ones and those marked "Bundesrepublik Deutschland" (Federal Republic of Germany / 1949 onwards to the 50ies/60ies) got one piece of chocolate, those marked with "Deutsches Reich" (German Empire /1871-1949) got TWO pieces and those still marked with "Grossherzogtum Baden" (Grand Duchy of Baden / upto 1871) got THREE . Interesting was that the older ones were in what already had become Swiss territory while the new ones were between 5 and 100 meters farther north. It was an area which already then was a kind of "green frontier" with no controls anywhere. We sometimes walked ahead into the next German village to a nice "Gasthof" where we got a Zitro-Limonade or something thelike and Grandmum either "än suure Moscht" or a glass of wine. Alright, she paid in D-Mark, but she always had some Reichsmark/D-Mark with her all her life.
Interesting. What part of the border? Always on the look out for inexpensive and 'different' activities to do!
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It's not as bad as North America. We used to complain about back-to-school sales beginning early august. They start almost before school is over now.

The thankgiving/halloween commercial rush has been long sqouzen into one, and lately the halloween/christmas commercial potential has crossed over.


Mind you, I'm referring solely on stores pushing money making merchandise. Although I might add, the halloween/christmas crossover of doing halloween lights much like christmas lights on houses has become entertaining:
That just has to be the best thing I have seen hehehe, love it....hmmm wonder if I can get the OH to decorate our house like this......would be a grand sight at the end of the world in Diesbach
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AND and nuts
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mandarines

Hey! You forgot
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Old 05.10.2012, 14:31
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Re: Christmas is here...

Time for some serious hibernation until all these wannabe Christians figure out that they're barking up the wrong cross .... or something.

Happy Hanukkah.
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Interesting. What part of the border? Always on the look out for inexpensive and 'different' activities to do!
It was the border north of Schaffhausen, west of Thayingen, east of Bargen (Büttenhardt/CH <> Wiechs/D) . It is similar to the south of Thayingen. And the Gasthof in Gottmadingen served the best smoked bacon the world has ever seen
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You miss the point Wolli - my brothers and I also had few toys in the 40s and 50s, and again not necessarily because of money being in short supply. 1 or 2 main presents and as your picture shows, a mandarine, nuts and a ginger Santa with a picture stuck on top. Things are not quite so simple now, even in Switzerland - but i am so glad that here things are not so commerialised, and TV adverts to tempt children are not allowed. Another problem with the adverts, is that they show toys doing incredible stunts and tricks - which in real life are not possible, which creates instant disappointment. Actually, I will write to the advertising board to make an official complaint to that effect (as complaints here on EF rarely solve anything )

Most kids nowadays in the UK and US, have mountains of toys - often room fulls. Not only do direct relatives buy presents, but also friends, etc. Each birthday party also means 'real' presents (eg not just 'little' things) - toys are so numerous that children just do not value them, use them creatively to stretch the content, and jump from one to another in a matter of minutes. The commercialisation of Christmas can have very negative effects - for instance when financially challenged parents feel they 'have to' borrow lots of money to 'keep up with the Jones'' children- lest their are teased for not owning the latest craze.
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Re: Christmas is here...

If it means Christmas Cookies and Goodwill to all then bring it on...... But the sun is shinning and its over 20 degrees..... cant it wait till November!
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If it means Christmas Cookies and Goodwill to all then bring it on...... But the sun is shinning and its over 20 degrees..... cant it wait till November!
Or December?
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I vote for December - 3 weeks is long enough to keep it all 'fresh' - kids (and adults are all frazzled by the time it comes- when it starts late September
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Re: Christmas is here...

Amazingly, I've seen none of the usual Christmas stuff yet and even precious little Halloween stuff and it's nearly the middle of October. Perhaps the election year is putting a damper on things this year. It seems a bit more subdued than usual.

And the synchro house light displays are kinda fun as its hard not to smile at the over-the-top enthusiasm to do something like that and kids really love the show.

I agree about the mountains of toys (though they don't have to watch TV to feel the pressure since many other kids do watch TV with adverts and then....) as my daughter doesn't have so many but what she does have she probably could have reduced by half and not miss (though god forbid I made a few things 'fall off the boat' in the moving process; she didn't miss a trick and started asking where the plastic play food got off to about 10 minutes in. I hated that plastic food my MiL got her last christmas....this is my confession. ). I have to admit the one thing she does have an overabundance of is books which I can't seem to stop indulging her with. Her birthday is coming soon, though, and it's the season where I start trying to figure out how to rein in the mountain of stuff between her birthday and xmas.
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If it means Christmas Cookies and Goodwill to all then bring it on...... But the sun is shinning and its over 20 degrees..... cant it wait till November!
I actually saw Christmas cookies in the store a couple days ago...
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