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As "give me that" and "give that to me" are identical in meaning, saying "explain me this" is understandable.
Yet everyoune accepts "Riddle me this", don't they?
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Old 09.10.2012, 18:33
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Interestingly, when I was growing up in Cornwall, people often said "he's to David's" etc, meaning "he's at David's".
Oh, the good old locative to. It stays alive in Dutch in expressions with te (universiteit te Amsterdam, te Rotterdam geboren...) and it's the one you have in zu Hause and in the nobility von und zu (Fürst von und zu Liechtenstein). Nice to hear this dear lovely little cuty didn't die out totally on the island.
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Old 09.10.2012, 18:36
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Re: copying english mistakes

I never went to school to learn english, working as a tradsman ,no one ever corrected me with my grammer and spelling. I had a hard time learning the language (I am sure you notice)On top of this I am hard of haering . I find it unfair and even stupid to delibertly making misstakes

Typing and computers only came to me about 10 years ago
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Old 09.10.2012, 18:43
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Re: copying english mistakes

'nuff said

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Old 09.10.2012, 18:44
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Re: copying english mistakes

Beside the useless little hours I learned English in high school, I never had proper classes.

I learned it while working and mostly with people who already had a poor English. My old Australian flatmate used to correct me and I learned a lot from her and the rest come from the tv, books and Internet.

No one can figure where I am from with my French-Turkish-Spanish-British-American-Australian accent.
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Old 09.10.2012, 18:48
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Re: copying english mistakes

I never make mistakes

Everybody knows that the plural of "fish" is "fishes". Right? Right?
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Old 09.10.2012, 21:29
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Beside the useless little hours I learned English in high school, I never had proper classes.

No one can figure where I am from with my French-Turkish-Spanish-British-American-Australian accent.
Suddenly everything becomes crystal clear ....
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Old 09.10.2012, 21:52
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I learned it while working and mostly with people who already had a poor English. My old Australian flatmate used to correct me and I learned a lot from her and the rest come from the tv, books and Internet

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If you let an australian teach then you must have been tought right proper like eh!
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It's true. My English is getting worser...
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Old 09.10.2012, 22:34
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Re: copying english mistakes

My English is better now, than it ever was when I lived in America
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Old 09.10.2012, 22:35
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My one concession to the German speakers is that I often offer to organize 'a training'.
Yes, I have got drawn into that one as well... it's not just German though, I was already moaning about it (and doing it myself) when I was living in Neuchâtel.
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"I've been here for an hour"

Blank looks, thinks to self "oh bugger it"

"I've been here since an hour"

Looks of understanding

If you can't beat 'em join em. Besides English is my mother tongue and its my god given right to mess it up as much as a see fit, but only when I know I'm messing it up.
"Please could you try to get this done until end of day Friday" is another useful one to have in the repertoire.
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Old 09.10.2012, 22:59
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If you let an australian teach then you must have been tought right proper like eh!
Well.... She never managed to teach me how to say focus without sounding like f*** us.
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Re: copying english mistakes

I hate it when asked where I am in Basel and I am outside the Kunst Museume and my English kicks in and I think of loads of paintiings of vaginas I think I have spelled museem wrong
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"Please could you try to get this done until end of day Friday" is another useful one to have in the repertoire.
I was wondering when someone would mention "I want this piece of work until this date". I am currently wrestling with my conscience over whether to tell everyone at my workplace that it's grammatically incorrect, only my shamefully poor German makes me too embarrassed to correct their excellent English though I'm sure some would be pleased to know.
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Well.... She never managed to teach me how to say focus without sounding like f*** us.
Did she teach you how to use your knife and fork or your forking knife
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Old 09.10.2012, 23:40
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It's true. My English is getting worser...
Apologies, it's our fault (of the non-native speakers) even on EF. I for one really appreciate your tolerance towards us! I don't know if I would be as tolerant if the official EF language were Italian and I had to read so many posts full of mistakes and misspellings, so thank you very much for bearing with us...


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I was wondering when someone would mention "I want this piece of work until this date". I am currently wrestling with my conscience over whether to tell everyone at my workplace that it's grammatically incorrect, only my shamefully poor German makes me too embarrassed to correct their excellent English though I'm sure some would be pleased to know.
actually I am sure that most non native speakers appreciate being corrected, I certainly do - it depends on how it is done. the way you have expressed your "conscience dilemma" makes me think that you would be sensitive enough to correct your colleagues in a very charming way, with mutual benefit
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Re: copying english mistakes

I teach English to foreign students and, undoubtedly, the thing what causes most confusion is the use of prepositions.

Edit: I just can't do it ... spot the deliberate mistake.

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Re: copying english mistakes

I often hear, from native and non-native speakers alike:

"If I would go...".

but shouldn't it be "If I went"?? this is a great mystery to me
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I often hear, from native and non-native speakers alike:

"If I would go...".

but shouldn't it be "If I went"?? this is a great mystery to me
Common evolution. In a language system where there is no marker differentiation between preterit and conditional (the former past subjunctive) anymore, the form "went" is ambiguous, and the only way to explicitly mark this difference is to use the analytical structure with would. As the form would go in itself is not wrong, it replaces totally the old conditional that nobody identifies as such anymore. The same happen in "if I was you" instead of "if I were you" where the old past subjunctive become a simple preterit, the confusion of the two forms made the speaker change the structure to a preterit tense expression. All due to the disappearance of the concept of subjunctive in modern English.

Strangely, the same "mistake" or evolution is happening in French, were the modal imparfait in "si j'allais" become an explicit conditional "si j'irais" that is wrong but follows the same logic of evolution. German kept the conjunctive all the time, so that there were never any transition period with the preterit with subjunctive value. German grammarians managed to keep order in those things.
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