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Switzerland 35 50.72%
Germany 14 20.29%
Haven't lived in both so can't say. 20 28.99%
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oh yes, i remember this. i think it was back in 1973 (maybe wolli can confirm?) there was an article about it in the newspapers the next day.
Oi! I wasn't born yet!
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Can you ever imagine two SBB officers joking around like this? The swiss are extremely serious, and especially don't like to joke around in the workplace.
Switzerland.
My wife, is one rigid Frau in the workplace , we had a business together for 10 years in Seattle... I had to straighten up and fly right, no jokes ever. I was worried to come here and get a job, thinking work should be fun... the lab I will start working in come January, are a group of laughers and jokers and sometimes have crazy ideas to go to stripsclubs for Feierabend... so I do believe some people here like to have fun and don't take it too serious.
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To C.G. what I also notice when trying to talk with someone that grew up here, when I speak Hochdeutsch, they hear my american accent, and will jump into english speaking to avoid having to speak German
this doesn't surprise me, I know locals who will switch to English (or more likely Italian or French) when confronted with German from a native German.



I find locals in the Zurich area to generally be quite forgiving with Swiss German when spoken with an American accent, candidly because many of them find it funny. when the older folks switch to English it is often out of courtesy, and for many of the younger folks it is because they have a genuine interest in improving their conversational English.

come to think of it, the only time I have had my miserable Swiss German corrected publicly is by German waiters, shop assistants, etc., who typically make a point to correct my Swiss German into German (even when the Swiss German is correct).
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Re: Switzerland or Germany a better place to live?

If you move to Germany, will you stop making daily handwringing threads on this forum about the same damn thing? If so, you should definitely move to Germany!

With one of your earlier threads, I felt sympathy for you and I, along with other people, tried to offer you some advice, help, and companionship, which you seemed to ignore in favor of starting multiple dumb threads about the same subject. You keep harping on about utterly insignificant things like binge drinking and smoking like your life depended on it.

Im going to go out on a limb here and suggest that your problems go much, much deeper than your physical location. You've been here for one month and you're already complaining about a lack of friends, employment, the difficulty of learning Swiss german, and the variety of restaurants. How naive does someone have to be to expect to move to a country, learn the language, make friends, get to know the surroundings, and find a job in 30 days? I can barely fathom the level of impatience it must take to want to give up on an international move in a month.
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I'd pick Italy over Germany any day.

Better wine, better food, better beer, better women, better language, better motorcycles.

Tom
I totally agree on the Bier, language, food and motorcycles, but Better women? I live in Chur... I can't seem to walk anywhere without seeing really pretty women... well really nice body shapes that is
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Re: Switzerland or Germany a better place to live?

To be clear: this poll is total BS. Because it depends if you live in the Bavarian Alps or in Bremen. If you live in Zürich you can maybe compare it to Berlin (ok, Berlin wins) and so on.
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Old 11.10.2012, 12:29
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Re: Switzerland or Germany a better place to live?

Having lived in both I have to say I prefer Switzerland.

But as Prof says it really depends on where you are. We were in Hanover and now we're in Neuchâtel which has the huge advantage of being French speaking.
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If you move to Germany, will you stop making daily handwringing threads on this forum about the same damn thing? If so, you should definitely move to Germany!

With one of your earlier threads, I felt sympathy for you and I, along with other people, tried to offer you some advice, help, and companionship, which you seemed to ignore in favor of starting multiple dumb threads about the same subject. You keep harping on about utterly insignificant things like binge drinking and smoking like your life depended on it.

Im going to go out on a limb here and suggest that your problems go much, much deeper than your physical location. You've been here for one month and you're already complaining about a lack of friends, employment, the difficulty of learning Swiss german, and the variety of restaurants. How naive does someone have to be to expect to move to a country, learn the language, make friends, get to know the surroundings, and find a job in 30 days? I can barely fathom the level of impatience it must take to want to give up on an international move in a month.
You know, I think you do have something here, I went and looked at the lists of post by A.S. and it's like you said. Also their profile is low on information, like they don't want to actually try to become a part of something, all defenses up, kinda like.
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Old 11.10.2012, 12:33
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If you live in Zürich you can maybe compare it to Berlin (ok, Berlin wins) and so on.
I prefer Zurich to Berlin, but I prefer Brussels to Zurich.

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Re: Switzerland or Germany a better place to live?

Is Australia or New Zealand a better place to live?
Is the US or Canada a better place to live?
Is Middle Earth or Hogwarts a better place to live?


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I prefer Zurich to Berlin, but I prefer Brussels to Zurich.

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Brussels, omg
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Brussels, omg
Brussels is a great place to live.
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Brussels is a great place to live.
In between the rain showers.
Belgian chocolate is great, though.
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It happens to be one of the things I dislike about Switzerland, so i'm not going to ignore it when considering both options.

And no, smoking rates are much lower in Germany than Switzerland:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ion_per_capita

23. Switzerland 1,698
42. Germany 1,125

Anyway lets move on, please refrain from trolling or derailing the thread. Thanks.
Or not if you rely on WHO statistics:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123085631602247715.html
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Re: Switzerland or Germany a better place to live?

Shouldn't any comparison between the two countries also depend significantly on your personal situation ?
A DINK couple with a high income benefits a lot from the generally lower tax rates in Switzerland. However, the higher cost of daycare in Switzerland (and the discriminatory tax on the second salary) may make it near impossible for the second partner to find any job here.
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Re: Switzerland or Germany a better place to live?

When I started reading your post I was really wondering what the point of it is. YOU clearly seem to be more favorable view of Germany and are interested in moving there. We really can't help you make that decision.

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To be honest, I actually prefer most Germans to the Swiss. They seem to be more laid back and easy going.
For example the above comment is just bizarre and completely incomprehensible to me. As is the whole smoking issue. So MY vote would be Switzerland, which doesn't really help you, does it?

All I can say is pack your bags and head north my son.
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I'd pick Italy over Germany any day.

Better wine, better food, better beer, better women, better language, better motorcycles.

Tom
Better beer? I know there are a few good craft breweries in the north of Italy but other than that nothing. The germans produce great beer all round and its production is quality controlled in law.

@OP However, I'm always open to be proved wrong with some nice italian beers just tell me about them .
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Is Middle Earth or Hogwarts a better place to live?
That one's easy: Hogwarts, obviously.
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I am wondering if anyone here has lived in both countries before? If so, can you please state which country you prefer and why?

Some things I personally consider:

Switzerland

- Expensive
- Lack of variety/options when eating out
- Huge number of smokers
- Difficult to make friends
- Poor customer service
- More difficult to learn German, hard to understand Swiss German

+ Awesome scenery
+ Lots of outdoor activities, eg hiking, skiing, water sports
+ Not many binge drinkers
+ Excellent quality water
+ Very low crime rate
+ Excellent public transport

Germany (based on just visiting)

- More binge drinkers
- Louder than Switzerland
- Not as great scenery
- Public transport not great

+ Much cheaper
+ More variety/options when eating out
+ Possibly easier to make friends?
+ Much fewer smokers
+ Easier to learn German and understand others

Everyone talks about the great quality of life in Switzerland, but to be honest I'm actually a little disappointed after living here. I am starting to wonder if i'd feel more at home living in Germany. The only thing I would miss here is the nature and scenery. If it weren't for all the awesome nature/scenery here, i'd move to Germany in a second.
Germany is an average place to live for many reasons... Switzerland is light years ahead of it. Ireland and the UK are light years ahead of both if you are well educated and ambitious.
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Brussels is a great place to live.
Orderlies, fetch the straight-jacket please.

Lived and worked in Brussels for over three years. Best thing about it is the Eurostar that gets you to civilization in under two hours.

I am not into comparisons but Brussels is very ordinary. A dull, flat, dour version of Switzerland without any of the Swiss upside.

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