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proof of the Swiss sense of irony

one of our sons recently had a birthday, and received a card with the following inscription:

"Ein bisschen individualismus hat keinem geschadet."

("A little individuality never hurt anybody.")

I guess the implication is that too much individuality is bad for you - who was it who started the thread about the Swiss not being capable of sarcasm or irony???

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one of our sons recently had a birthday, and received a card with the following inscription:

"Ein bisschen individualismus hat keinem geschadet."

("A little individuality never hurt anybody.")

I guess the implication is that too much individuality is bad for you - who was it who started the thread about the Swiss not being capable of sarcasm or irony???

Whilst I agree with the quotation in the card, I would not necessarily assume that it implied that too much individuality is a bad thing.

I think I need just a little more evidence to convince me of the Swiss sense of irony.
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Old 30.10.2012, 23:11
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Whilst I agree with the quotation in the card, I would not necessarily assume that it implied that too much individuality is a bad thing.

I think I need just a little more evidence to convince me of the Swiss sense of irony.
Whatever, I still remember a card, my brother once got from some friends where you could read Du leuchtest in der Ferne wie eine alte Stall-Laterne. and it continued Dunkel wars, der Mond schien helle, als ein Auto blitzeschnelle langsam um die runde Ecke fuhr
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Whatever, I still remember a card, my brother once got from some friends where you could read Du leuchtest in der Ferne wie eine alte Stall-Laterne. and it continued Dunkel wars, der Mond schien helle, als ein Auto blitzeschnelle langsam um die runde Ecke fuhr
Can you translate please?
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Can you translate please?
I'll have a go at it (subject to correction):

You light up the distance like a barn lamp...

It was dark, the moon shone bright,
as a car sped slowly around the corner
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Old 30.10.2012, 23:30
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I'll have a go at it (subject to correction):

You light up the distance like a barn lamp...

It was dark, the moon shone bright,
as a car sped slowly around the corner
Thanks! I don't get it ...
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Thanks! I don't get it ...
Neither do I (maybe it's poetic imagery)...
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I'll have a go at it (subject to correction):

You light up the distance like a barn lamp...

It was dark, the moon shone bright,
as a car sped slowly around the corner
I think the Swiss need to get out more.
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Re: proof of the Swiss sense of irony

I think it might be like "you shine like a dark in the light". i.e. sounds nice until you notice what was actually said.

You light up the distance like an old barn lamp....or in other words, you don't light it up at all. The old barn lamp is weak and useless

But I'm just guessing wildly while having to stay up to midnight to cover a work flap.
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I think it might be like "you shine like a dark in the light". i.e. sounds nice until you notice what was actually said.

You light up the distance like an old barn lamp....or in other words, you don't light it up at all. The old barn lamp is weak and useless

But I'm just guessing wildly while having to stay up to midnight to cover a work flap.
it's also a play on words - it was dark but the moon shone brightly, a fast car speeds slowly around the corner, etc.
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Re: proof of the Swiss sense of irony

Yeah, apparently they're not good at irony or analogies.
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Can you translate please?
Du leuchtest in der Ferne wie eine alte Stall-Laterne. and it continued Dunkel wars, der Mond schien helle, als ein Auto blitzeschnelle langsam um die runde Ecke fuhr

You are a far away light like an old farm lantern

Dark it was, the moonshine was light, when a car very swiiftly slowly turned around the round edge
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Yeah, apparently they're not good at irony or analogies.
Who is not ? Do you not understand real irony ? Interesting analogies ? as mentioned here ?

You might better understand the following
-- Da gab es den Herrn Höhn, der litt sehr unter dem Föhn, aber auch bei Westwind, Ostwind und bei Bise, wars ihm gleichermassen miese --- there was Mr Höhn, who suffered from the Föhn, but also at Westwind, Eastwind and at Northwind he felt bad the same
> the rhyme and the irony goes lost, as is the case very often when you try to translate jokes

the same with the following
eigentlich sött er ja guet chöne schwümme, er isch ja hohl. Aber eventuell goots doch nöd so guet, er isch ja nöd ganz dicht
any translation fails in this case as the major expressions cannot be translated

easier is to transmit a joke I once heard from somebody who had studied at the University of Damascus
why do those in Hama keep on the lights during the day ? ....... to save sun energy

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Neither do I (maybe it's poetic imagery)...
I asked hubby to translate a while ago - he said that it's an old saying that doesn't receive justice due in English.

I guess none of us are Swiss enough to get it (myself included).
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Re: proof of the Swiss sense of irony

Was the card made out of a post-it note?
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Was the card made out of a post-it note?
it was made of denim
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Re: proof of the Swiss sense of irony

My mother was German...she had a sense of humor but, I think you had to grow up there to get the jokes as I never could figure out wtf she was on about. My English father, however, was funny as hell. Even in translation, e.g. , German humor just doesn't make sense to the non-native (though I appreciate the alliteration).

But the original birthday card....yeah, I don't quite know what that was trying to convey as it's not funny or sweet or....
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Re: proof of the Swiss sense of irony

I find english humour on the reality shows really crap and dont even see it as funny
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Was the card made out of a post-it note?
It was a congratulation-postcard with some cartoon on the frontside, and half of the other for your text, half for the address (standard)
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Re: proof of the Swiss sense of irony

I totally cringe when a person not of my own culture begins to tell a joke, because I know I`m going to have trouble finding it funny.

And I`ve learned to not try and tell my own jokes to them as well - they cannot find the humour.

Although, I must say, there are some jokes that bear translation ...... I just can`t remember them now. Fortunately I seldom can remember jokes.
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