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Re: Nespresso Capsule Recycling - What's in it for me?

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You put them in the bag and take them to the nearest boutique,waste tip or if you have your capsules delivered by courier give them to him. Personally I bin them and use the bag for my packed lunch.
Just bought a new lunch box and will use the recycle bag for its true purpose from now on
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Environmentalists are the new Puritans.

Tell them to stuff their religion: chuck the capsules in the river and let the fish share the joyful buzz of caffeine.

If they could talk, they'd beg you to.
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Re: Nespresso Capsule Recycling - What's in it for me?

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Environmentalists are the new Puritans.

Tell them to stuff their religion: chuck the capsules in the river and let the fish share the joyful buzz of caffeine.

If they could talk, they'd beg you to.
Its a little early for such blatant trolling....
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Its a little early for such blatant trolling....
Only half-trolling, as usual.
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To my mind, it says more about Nestle's and the Swiss approach to customer service...
Nestle do it because people here wouldn't buy the machines if the recycling facility wasn't available. In Switzerland, there is a lot of sensitivity about any "single serve" packaging - hence the number of PET recycling points and the relatively low number of drinks sold in cans. Don't kid yourself that this is Nestle being green because they are saintly - it just makes good financial sense to do this. (If you need to be convinced, ask yourself why the coffee is packed in relatively thick and beautifully coloured aluminium - this is very unneccesary from a product quality point of view)

Myself, I have never been a fan. I get the point of convenience and variety, but the coffee itself is ready ground.....and pre-ground coffee doesn't taste like that or produce a crema like that without a lot of chemical treatment and addition. So personally, buying something more expensive than beans, with more waste than beans and with lots of chemistry to make it taste like beans seems a bit of a luxury.

Having said that, I think that the business model and the marketing are absolutely first class - decommoditising a product like instant coffee and turning it into a premium product with "destination" outlets is the stuff that makes MBA grads go moist with envy. (Its known as the "razor/razor-blade model" and many sectors use it to make huge margins - sell the equipment cheap (printers, razors, coffee machines) and charge huge margins on refills knowing that consumers tend not to replace the equipment once purchased (even though its cheap!). And the quality of the coffee in there is very high - it is the availability of the coffee (less than 1% of the worlds supply is suitable) which is limiting the business expansion.

(By the way, the some of the patents for the system expire this year, so you can expect to see the prices fall as "me too" products start to become available)
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Old 01.11.2012, 10:34
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Sorry to call you out, but not entirely true (although you did say "apparently")!
Guilty as charged -- I stand corrected. But from what I gather, you've been able to recycle Nespresso capsules in Switzerland for quite a long time. In most other markets, it's a very recent thing.

And the Nespresso Pro pucks, because they contain plastic, cannot be recycled.
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Re: Nespresso Capsule Recycling - What's in it for me?

I saw this somewhere once - Outpresso (http://www.outpresso.com/index-e-1.htm). Probably easiest way to recycle the capsules - no storing used capsule, no need to bring anything back.
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It's a good thing that there is a recycling option now I believe but I feel the cost should be covered by the producer or in the purchase price.
There are strict regulations for car makers for instance, almost all of the raw materials must be recycled.
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I saw this somewhere once - Outpresso (http://www.outpresso.com/index-e-1.htm). Probably easiest way to recycle the capsules - no storing used capsule, no need to bring anything back.
I like that. You reckon the aluminium shells can just go in the normal pop can bin?

I would feel a little guilty about depriving the poor winemakers of the Lavaux region though.
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It's a good thing that there is a recycling option now I believe but I feel the cost should be covered by the producer or in the purchase price.
There are strict regulations for car makers for instance, almost all of the raw materials must be recycled.
They do cover the cost. Volvo don't come and pick up your car and drive it to China
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I like that. You reckon the aluminium shells can just go in the normal pop can bin?
I was reading on the interwebs (so it must be true) that these devices, while well intentioned, are not effective. The Nespresso capsules are too small to go through the automatic sorting systems that handle most aluminium, and get discarded as unwanted debris, so you're basically just shifting your trash to their trash.
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Re: Nespresso Capsule Recycling - What's in it for me?

Here is the recycling page from the Nespresso CH website:

http://www.nespresso.com/ecolaborati.../capsules.html

You might be able to get some more info from there.

"The capsule recycling network in Switzerland is entirely funded and managed by Nespresso, with the help of multiple partners. This extensive network of over 2,600 collection points employs around 60 people full time across Switzerland. From the logistics point of view, it is maintained by around seventy recycling enterprises involved in collections, along with two processing centres which see to it that the capsules collected are processed in the optimum manner to separate the aluminium from the coffee grounds. In Switzerland, once the aluminium has been separated from the coffee grounds, it is compacted to be recast and converted into a material called "secondary aluminium". The coffee grounds, which have significant calorific value, are partly recycled for energy, and partly as compost. Since 2010, we have been diversifying the use of the coffee grounds, and by working together with carefully- selected partners a large proportion of the coffee grounds are recycled in producing green energy." Source: http://www.nespresso.com/ecolaborati...itzerland.html
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I like that. You reckon the aluminium shells can just go in the normal pop can bin?

I would feel a little guilty about depriving the poor winemakers of the Lavaux region though.
The purpose of that "toolt" is to recycle the aluminium

Recycling means to use something again. Aluminum is a valuable raw material which is high in demand but limited in supply. Recycled aluminum can be used to produce more coffee capsules as well as the ever so popular aluminum cans. Do not just throw away your coffee capsules. Using Outpresso can help you help the environment.
As used aluminium coffee capsules consist of far more coffee than aluminium, they cannot be recycled along with cans, tins etc. OUTPRESSO can change that. Using OUTPRESSO, the aluminium of the capsules can be separated from the coffee, so that the aluminium can be collected together with the usual aluminium cans.

The idea is therefore that you recycle the aluminium together with the aluminum cans and use the coffee as fertilzer for your garden...

Depending on how much coffee your drink this can be rather time consuming. I have a recycling container. http://www.nespresso.com/ch/en/product/recycling There is a firm lid and therefore they don't smell. You can return the capsules in different places, as far as I know most Fust have the drop off option (without the bag you pay for), some bigger Coop as well and some recycling centers provided by the town do as well (for example Oberrieden being a tiny one). So there are several options without the bag. The bag makes sense if you have capsules delivered to your house anyway (which I don't) but there are many options to recycle without the bag.

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Re: Nespresso Capsule Recycling - What's in it for me?

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Tell them to stuff their religion: chuck the capsules in the river and let the fish share the joyful buzz of caffeine.

If they could talk, they'd beg you to.
Hmm I always try hard not to tell all the religious people I know to 'stuff their religion', even if I am tempted at times. But hey ho - what happened to that guy who put all that controversy, angst and anger firmly behind him - turning a new page, etc? Didn't last long...

Nice to have you back though - at least you've not come back 'just' to use the commercial section to flog stuff (arggh darn, I forgot ze Blog )

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That might be literally true, but you know the reality is quite a lot different.

Anyway, as I commented above: I'm only half trolling. Was Swift trolling when he suggested that starving Irish families should eat their children?
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Guilty as charged -- I stand corrected. But from what I gather, you've been able to recycle Nespresso capsules in Switzerland for quite a long time. In most other markets, it's a very recent thing.

And the Nespresso Pro pucks, because they contain plastic, cannot be recycled.

Yeah, no idea on that one (could probably google but just heading out the door), I've had my machine for 12 months and it's been at least that long..
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Recycling is the modern equivalent of indulgences. It's just a means of assuaging guilt that does nothing to address the fundamental problem. Put simply: don't recycle, just use less.

How much energy goes into producing those capsules? How much energy goes into transporting the spent capsules to the recycling plant? How much energy goes into converting them into something useful afterwards?

Rather than buying tons and tons of useless junk then indulging in silly superstitious rituals to feel better about it, perhaps we should stop and think about our purchases before taking our wallets out.

There was no "green" movement in our grandparents' day, yet they spent less than we do, wasted less than we do, and lived by the principle of "make do and mend" rather than "spend, spend and recycle".

That's why it's right and proper to tell the new Puritans to stuff their religion: it's a false religion founded on hypocritical ways of attaining eco-salvation which are, by and large, founded on a combination of myth, blind faith and ignorance.

So chuck those capsules in the river! Go ahead! As a comfortable consumer in Western Europe you're doing many much worse things to the environment every second of every day. Just as I am, just as M.Ploymi is, just as everybody else on EF is.

I'm off to light a candle for the polar bears. Anyone want to join me?
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Re: Nespresso Capsule Recycling - What's in it for me?

Actually, the worst thing we can do for the environment is to acquire tastes for things that can't be grown round the corner. Drink dandelion tea as our ancestors did, and we won't have to fly millions of tons of coffee beans and tea leaves around the globe in the first place.
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Actually, the worst thing we can do for the environment is to acquire tastes for things that can't be grown round the corner. Drink dandelion tea as our ancestors did, and we won't have to fly millions of tons of coffee beans and tea leaves around the globe in the first place.
Does coffee and tea get flown?

I thought it came via tea clipper:



Or at least the modern equivalent.
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Recycling is the modern equivalent of indulgences. It's just a means of assuaging guilt that does nothing to address the fundamental problem. Put simply: don't recycle, just use less.

How much energy goes into producing those capsules? How much energy goes into transporting the spent capsules to the recycling plant? How much energy goes into converting them into something useful afterwards?

Rather than buying tons and tons of useless junk then indulging in silly superstitious rituals to feel better about it, perhaps we should stop and think about our purchases before taking our wallets out.
But buying useless junk again and again is what makes economies grow.

And we need growth in economies to help fund retirement funds and the every increasing population.
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