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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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I don't like you very much.... And yes, I have been all over EE.
Are you by any chance related to OP?

I suggest you two get a room...
On the other hand, I agree with you: the OP is Russian. For sure...that's why he doesn't get laid.
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Sorry, I just don't get the concept of "down low"...I mean I don't understand what this refers to
Well, hmm, I guess I'm used to folks (like my hubby) who watch a lot of American TV shows.

Here is the basic concept:
Girls don't like to be known to sleep around. So, many of the girls who *may* sleep around do so with as few people as possible knowing. Maybe not 100% secret, but only their closest friend and whomever they've slept with know. This is "on the down low".

So, before a girl like that will sleep with you, she has to get to know you at least a little, to know that you won't blab. She also has to have some context of being with you, in case anyone sees you two together. Usually also, if it happens, it will be an after-a-group-activity type thing.

Say you, she, and four or five of your "closest friends" go to dinner and a movie as a group event. Maybe a few agree to have a few beers or go dancing after. Maybe a couple agree to return to one house or another for after party wind-down.

Is this making some more sense?


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Sure more friends is always better, but sometimes it's really a hard work to break into those "female groups" and they tend to flake a lot...
Perhaps because from my body language from the first minute it's clear that I am not looking at her only as a friend, and I do that with all girls, doesn't matter actually if I am really into them or not...
Because I have godness in my hearth and know that even ugly girls love a bit of flirting and the fact someone might be intrested into them...
Staring at girls is creepy. I am too lazy to go back and find your post about staring at a girl on a train for 15min in order to quote it, but STOP THAT.

Unless she's more than a little crazy herself, she's unlikely to think that's anything other than weird. She won't even stop to think about cultural differences, unless your appearance compared to hers makes the difference quite distinct - she'll just think you're strange. So. Stop.

Meanwhile, I wasn't meaning "female groups" but rather, mixed groups. You don't want to hang out with just a pack of girls - then all the other girls will simply think you're gay. This isn't a bad thing, if you actually are, it probably won't help you get anyone from outside the group though.

When I was your age (see my first post about being old, fat and frumpy ), my girlfriends and I often made friends with groups of guys - and we'd all go out together. Sometimes "hook ups" happened within the group, but just as often, we'd attract others who saw us having fun and enjoying each other and become intrigued. THIS is what I mean ... and this is why taking the suggestion of a few (particularly grumpygrapefruit) and going to Viadukt on Thursday evenings is a good idea.


Last thing: Regarding "ugly" girls?
We smell that caca a mile away. It may have been longer than we like since we'd gotten laid ourselves, so we may put up with it for a little while to see if it will yield results, but unless you're REALLY good in bed, we're not coming back for seconds.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Doc, I take you to a party and let's see what you can make there, then we can talk what is desperate and what is neccessary...


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Are you by any chance related to OP?

I suggest you two get a room...
On the other hand, I agree with you: the OP is Russian. For sure...that's why he doesn't get laid.
Great... Another Romanian.... This country is going downhill
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Well,it's Friday night and I'll let you lot continue this discussion. I'm off to get laid (and watch an episode or two of Homeland...not necessarily in that order, possibly at the same time...Claire Danes does it for me).
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You don't want to hang out with just a pack of girls - then all the other girls will simply think you're gay.
Maybe he should try it, because apparently he's tried everything else... Here's a song that might give him some inspiration:

I Wish I Was Queer So I Could Get Chicks
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

I am reading the threads in this forum for quite some time now, but for this thread I just had to register.

It has everything that makes an entertaining thread on EF:
  1. Lots and lots of whining from the OP about a problem concerning Switzerland that neither the locals nor most of the foreigners here have ever heard about or is exactly the same in every country.
  2. Complaints about the complainer
  3. New insights: How often has the issue of staring in public transport been discussed in this forum? Please remember: If somebody is staring at you, it is not because of your "un-Swiss behaviour", your race or because you are a foreigner. It is because they want to get in your pants.
  4. Some prejudices here and there (People from Eastern Europe, students etc.)
So thanks for the entertainment!

On a serious note: What I really don't get is that Nazi-speak like this:
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[...] The Swiss are simple people, physically, hormonaly and emotionally underdeveloped people [...]
is neither sanctioned nor frowned upon. In fact, it seems that it is not even noticed. Seriously, people?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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I am reading the threads in this forum for quite some time now, but for this thread I just had to register.

It has everything that makes an entertaining thread on EF:
  1. Lots and lots of whining from the OP about a problem concerning Switzerland that neither the locals nor most of the foreigners here have ever heard about or is exactly the same in every country.
  2. Complaints about the complainer
  3. New insights: How often has the issue of staring in public transport been discussed in this forum? Please remember: If somebody is staring at you, it is not because of your "un-Swiss behaviour", your race or because you are a foreigner. It is because they want to get in your pants.
  4. Some prejudices here and there (People from Eastern Europe, students etc.)
So thanks for the entertainment!

On a serious note: What I really don't get is that Nazi-speak like this:


is neither sanctioned nor frowned upon. In fact, it seems that it is not even noticed. Seriously, people?
Nah, he got called out on it and packed his bags and left.
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Old 03.11.2012, 00:16
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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On a serious note: What I really don't get is that Nazi-speak like this:


is neither sanctioned nor frowned upon. In fact, it seems that it is not even noticed. Seriously, people?
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Old 03.11.2012, 01:13
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Nah, he got called out on it and packed his bags and left.
I only saw criticism (and rightfully so) about other parts of his posting(s). If there are, in fact, posts critisising this particular line: My apologies, I must have overlooked them. Don't read any further.

Otherwise: I understand that it is difficult to adjust to the mentality of "the Swiss" and how things seem to work (or not work) here. I don't mind if somebody posts comments like "The Swiss are boring", "Zurich is a filthy, small village", "This and that is better in my home country" and the like. I think that everybody has to get things of their chest once in a while - it is part of the process of adjusting to something new. If I was angry and lonely I would probably tend to the one or the other unjust generalisation as well, but if it is allowed to write "<insert nationality here> are simple people, physically, hormonaly and emotionally underdeveloped people" in this forum - heck, then about anything goes. I mean, how can this not be the most disturbing line in this whole thread?! For me, this really takes the classical Swiss-rant on a completely new, very wrong, level. Am I the only one that is bothered by this?

To come back on topic: Everything has already been said. If you are lonely:
  • Go out, meet people
  • Try to understand what is socially acceptable and what not. Things might work differently here than in your home country, but that does not mean it is better or worse
  • Be patient. Don't put yourself under pressure and don't try too hard. RELAX!
  • Stop whining on the Internet, it will not improve your situation.
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Sometimes I am hormonally challenged. Some of those times I am still enough in control that I bite my proverbial tongue.
Me too. My hormonal and physical underdevelopment barely allows me getting up in the morning. The good thing about being simple and emotionally underdeveloped as well is, that I can easily be put down, if I become too much of a burden, without anybody having a bad conscience or me noticing.
I don't take this personally - at all (I am actually thinking about a new signature ). It was a very entertaining thread and it is the internet after all. Nothing that is said here should be taken too seriously. I just think this is something that nobody should be allowed to say, in earnest, about ANY group of people on ANY reasonable forum without getting banned.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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On a serious note: What I really don't get is that Nazi-speak like this:


is neither sanctioned nor frowned upon. In fact, it seems that it is not even noticed. Seriously, people?
I think he was noticed and he got told off by a couple of people if you reread the thread... not necessarily on the exact line, but the other stuff was the same, no?

Just imagine the EF to be like a real life bar... everything you write is read and over time do people get a pretty good idea of you. If some new guy walks in an talks bullshit do you remember it. If the OP for example would now write some well meant advice on another members relationship problems would somebody for sure mock him for it...

But what would you do in a bar if some random guy next to you talks this rubbish? Do you punch everyone directly in the face? Normally you first ignore or just tell him and only really "sanction" behaviour if it gets personal and aggressive. Which was not the case here. But our moderators have banner hundreds of idiots before.
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Left hand or right hand, you mean

He certainly isn't going to need both hands, couple of adjacent fingers should be more than enough.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

So, MannImBett, did it work? Or did you end up going home with your "right hand man" again?
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So, MannImBett, did it work? Or did you end up going home with your "right hand man" again?
Its a bit early still. He's probably still off staring at girls on trains...

Also, what if he's a lefty? You might be offending him...

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Guess it didn't work for mikebaxter. He's back early...
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If I was angry and lonely I would probably tend to the one or the other unjust generalisation as well, but if it is allowed to write "<insert nationality here> are simple people, physically, hormonaly and emotionally underdeveloped people" in this forum - heck, then about anything goes. I mean, how can this not be the most disturbing line in this whole thread?! For me, this really takes the classical Swiss-rant on a completely new, very wrong, level. Am I the only one that is bothered by this?

Just think this way so it becomes less annoying...most people who write these ugly things are angry and lonely, and I personally understand that you or enyone else "<insert nationality here> " could be annoyed or disturbed by comments like the one you read about the Swiss, or East Europeans etc., but we better learn to ignore this type of behaviour or trolling, or at least deal with it with irony or humour. Don't take it too seriously.. You probably haven't been around too long..
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I think he was noticed and he got told off by a couple of people if you reread the thread... not necessarily on the exact line, but the other stuff was the same, no?
Yes, I got the impression that he is somewhat of a notorious line stepper and he was told off for it, you're right. Many things he wrote were not appropriate in my oppinion, but this was for me somehow the wow-now-you-have-gone-too-far moment. I think that freedom of speech is important, but if someone is uttering a "these people are lesser people than other people"-kind of oppinion, I see red. I really like discussions, especially when controversial, and I had my fair share of very interesting and calm discussions with strict followers of certain religions, fundamental atheists, anarchists communists, SVP voters (sometimes all at once ) and what not, but if, for example, someone tells me that "There are too many foreigners in Switzerland", I can at least discuss influence on rents, unemployment, culture etc. with them on the common base that we are all humans and "quality wise" equal. But if they tell me that "Foreigners are lesser people for this and that reason", discussion is over, there will be shouting.

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Just imagine the EF to be like a real life bar... everything you write is read and over time do people get a pretty good idea of you. If some new guy walks in an talks bullshit do you remember it. If the OP for example would now write some well meant advice on another members relationship problems would somebody for sure mock him for it...
I agree, will be difficult to lose a certain reputation.


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But what would you do in a bar if some random guy next to you talks this rubbish? Do you punch everyone directly in the face? Normally you first ignore or just tell him and only really "sanction" behaviour if it gets personal and aggressive. Which was not the case here. But our moderators have banner hundreds of idiots before.
It depends, is he bigger than me? I see where you are getting at. I just think that there are comments which should lead to immediate sanctions. Of course I am against punching, but what about a little poking? Ah, I remember, the lack of poking was what us actually got here...
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Just think this way so it becomes less annoying...most people who write these ugly things are angry and lonely, and I personally understand that you or enyone else "<insert nationality here> " could be annoyed or disturbed by comments like the one you read about the Swiss, or East Europeans etc., but we better learn to ignore this type of behaviour or trolling, or at least deal with it with irony or humour. Don't take it too seriously.. You probably haven't been around too long..
Don't worry! I don't take it too seriously. I was rather baffled than felt insulted about that comment. I have indeed not been around for too long, but already noticed that people can be quite direct in this forum.
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