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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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Don't worry! I don't take it too seriously. I was rather baffled than felt insulted about that comment. I have indeed not been around for too long, but already noticed that people can be quite direct in this forum.
Also, both the OP and that other guy were probably trolls. Its not recommended to feed trolls around here, but sometimes it can be fun...

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I told you, my hobbies are:
-Go and party. No big boring talks and fuss, enjoy the music grab a girl, dance, kiss, maybe meet later if there is a mutual intrest, if not bye, the next. If we hook up, then maybe later we develop some more profound talks.
-Go travel. Call a girl Saturday morning and say...We take the car and go to Italy, you have 30min time to be ready. In the meantime I book us a hostel in some cool place, there we walk, explore whatever. Or just bring laptops and do work if we have, but at least we changed the place. Hell, I was even travelling to Barcelona just to have a coffee and a meal for 1 day.
-Work hard (and party harder), a cliche' but...
-Gyms, fitness,...We go and boost our hormones a bit and then later shag like crazy or just enjoy a shower together. Too much computer use draws energy down.
-Everyday stuff, find pleasures in everything, small coffee in the afternoon, groceries, car washing, post office, gemeinde shit, insurance policies, bank...
-Life is the best hobby
These are not hobbies. It's a wish list for how you would like life to be, and it sounds like it's based more on what happens in television sitcoms than in real life, here in CH or anywhere else, for that matter.

I hate boring parties, too. That's why I refuse to engage in the same Q. and A. conversations about where you are from, etc., and instead actually try to say something interesting, engaging, or funny myself, to break the cycle. You are unhappy with the way the world works but incapable of behaving differently than the people you describe.

BTW, the purpose of small talk with someone you are interested in romantically is not to trade great truths and solve the world's problems or be the funniest person alive, it's a chance to get a feeling for the other person and see how you feel about spending time with them. You and your judgmental and condescending attitude must be sending some pretty clear messages to these people, as you are sending them to us here.

You are caught in a nasty spiral- you've decided its impossible to meet anyone and you don't want to adapt to local customs and social rhythms, yet you are unable to break through them in a way that is interesting to people. It has undermined your confidence and you are doing creepy things like staring at strangers on buses. Stop it, drop your expectations that life is like TV, and do and say things that might actually make you an interesting person to be with and make you good company.

From the vibes you send out here, you sound very unsympathetic and a lousy listener. Stop prejudging everyone and let things happen. Real life is a thousand times more interesting when you open your eyes to what is really happening instead of being frustrated that it doesn't play out like your fantasy version of it.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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Come now to the Lichthof/blue sofa and you'll see me lol

I am 26, European descent, no need to tell more precisely since it won't have any effect excpt for possible biases.

Will try to satisfy your requests and post a pic...
There is a certain amount of irony here. YOU are worried about OTHERS making biased decisions based on nationality?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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Phil, fully agree with you: I spent only 2 hours on a bike with a former GF, for a short trip, and it wasn't really that cold. After those 2 hours (which were exhilarating for me), she was mad as hell and decided to return home by train (and bear in mind, it was back in my home country where travelling by train was far away from what travelling by train in CH is...). Now, in retrospect, I tend to believe that the speed might have had something to do with that as well...
I once took a girlfriend on a motorcycle trip to Pescara (from Zurich). The ride home (1100km) was done in a day, 40 minutes riding, 20 minutes rest each hour. It took 9 hours.

I married her, too.

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

And so, why don't avoid the whole "close friends" thing...We already exchanged FBs, I invite you to a coffee downtown to "talk" and then after we go elswhere...No friends, no fuss, absolute discretion.
And if there is something that doesn't work out, nobody knows.
You can even negotiate the place/time and steer the whole process to work around any obstacle you might have (afraid somebody will see you, having a boyfriend, husband...)

I have no problem getting girl's FBs and phone numbers, especially on parties among friends, the problem is to make the girl come later for a single date. Since they have so many things going on (female friends want to travel to Rome, housecleaning, not in mood, study, watch TV cuz it's more comfortable...and not take the risk of meeting up with a relative stranger)

I actually never go for the same night ONSs, we exchange contacts and I will call you where we can both enjoy some private atmosphere or do something fun together. Now does this make sense? Obviously not to blind girls who stick only to one single "scenario" how the hookup should like based on some TV shows...

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Well, hmm, I guess I'm used to folks (like my hubby) who watch a lot of American TV shows.

Here is the basic concept:
Girls don't like to be known to sleep around. So, many of the girls who *may* sleep around do so with as few people as possible knowing. Maybe not 100% secret, but only their closest friend and whomever they've slept with know. This is "on the down low".

So, before a girl like that will sleep with you, she has to get to know you at least a little, to know that you won't blab. She also has to have some context of being with you, in case anyone sees you two together. Usually also, if it happens, it will be an after-a-group-activity type thing.

Say you, she, and four or five of your "closest friends" go to dinner and a movie as a group event. Maybe a few agree to have a few beers or go dancing after. Maybe a couple agree to return to one house or another for after party wind-down.

Is this making some more sense?




Staring at girls is creepy. I am too lazy to go back and find your post about staring at a girl on a train for 15min in order to quote it, but STOP THAT.

Unless she's more than a little crazy herself, she's unlikely to think that's anything other than weird. She won't even stop to think about cultural differences, unless your appearance compared to hers makes the difference quite distinct - she'll just think you're strange. So. Stop.

Meanwhile, I wasn't meaning "female groups" but rather, mixed groups. You don't want to hang out with just a pack of girls - then all the other girls will simply think you're gay. This isn't a bad thing, if you actually are, it probably won't help you get anyone from outside the group though.

When I was your age (see my first post about being old, fat and frumpy ), my girlfriends and I often made friends with groups of guys - and we'd all go out together. Sometimes "hook ups" happened within the group, but just as often, we'd attract others who saw us having fun and enjoying each other and become intrigued. THIS is what I mean ... and this is why taking the suggestion of a few (particularly grumpygrapefruit) and going to Viadukt on Thursday evenings is a good idea.


Last thing: Regarding "ugly" girls?
We smell that caca a mile away. It may have been longer than we like since we'd gotten laid ourselves, so we may put up with it for a little while to see if it will yield results, but unless you're REALLY good in bed, we're not coming back for seconds.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

So basically you just want to get laid. Go get a prostitute. It will cost you the same and you get exactly what you want. Mods we found a solution for the OP. Can we close this now?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

I am flattered by how much people here care about me, I even might change my opinion about Zurich scene haha

Of course it worked. And of course I don't go around and bash girls for just wanting to talk and not being heated up for the action immediately.
But it does not help the inner feeling that in fact they do bother me with their talk and choice of topics sometimes...
So the next time you are having a blast with a person and it looks like he is really having fun with you and intrested in what you're saying think that you might actually be bothering the hell out of him lol and that he wants something completely diverse. It might get better during time, it might not (divorces, boredom,I can't stan you anymore stuff...)

But in a close-minded hypoc society that's a neccessary pattern...
And this line is not just about Switzerland

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So, MannImBett, did it work? Or did you end up going home with your "right hand man" again?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Under some circumstances prostitutes are more costly.

There is no upside potential i.e. a possibility to transition maybe also to something serious if things do work out, and if sex is good then the probability is high it can transition to something more permanent.

Health risks associated with prostitutes.

Failure of many sex workers to really engage a client and make him feel the neccessary emotions for a fulfilling sexual encounter.

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So basically you just want to get laid. Go get a prostitute. It will cost you the same and you get exactly what you want. Mods we found a solution for the OP. Can we close this now?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

And that Viadukt is frequented also by the younger crowd or...?

Please no ugly old girls, EXCESSIVE fat makes me puke, and being not that much gifted in the beauty department offends my delicate senses for aestetic...
Also being clueless about fashion doesn't help at all.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Can we run a sweepstake ? "When is MannInBett" finaly going to get laid ?

I bet 2019 when he's grown a bit of bum fluff to make him appear adult
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And that Viadukt is frequented also by the younger crowd or...?

Please no ugly old girls, EXCESSIVE fat makes me puke, and being not that much gifted in the beauty department offends my delicate senses for aestetic...
Also being clueless about fashion doesn't help at all.
I'm sorry I tried to take you seriously.

Have fun with Mary Palm and her five friends, that's all the action you are going to see in Switzerland, or anywhere else, probably. As for the possibility of being invited to any events organized here, or meeting anyone through this site, you can probably forget that, too, because you seem not to like or have respect for anyone except yourself. Maybe Mr. Groans can meet up with you and you can both sit in the corner hating all the hypocrites that haven't achieved your level of enlightenment and those that don't live up to your exquisitely honed aesthetic sense.

BTW, Facebook isn't real life, stop confusing the two. I have 800 friends on it because I'm in a band and I have a lot of acquaintances and contacts from work and play, but I'd only lend money to a few of them, and I wouldn't ask every female one on a date. Get real and stop blaming other people because they don't fit your fantasy world or have to make excuses not to date you.

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And that Viadukt is frequented also by the younger crowd or...?

Please no ugly old girls, EXCESSIVE fat makes me puke, and being not that much gifted in the beauty department offends my delicate senses for aestetic...
Also being clueless about fashion doesn't help at all.

Let's be honest, with you being as desperate as you sound, i would think even an fat ugly sheep has a fair chance of being poked by you
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Wron, cuz here I seem more desperate then I am actually, or you are exaggerating in your perceptions...or both

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

I don't know what is the fresking problem?
I said I don't want to sit in a place and meet and greet 40+ years old, since it is not my target group and it is a waste od time.
Also I don't want to meet persons that do not satisfy some other criteria, since again there is no point. And it is much more efficient if we understand each other on this. Now that is called Swiss efficiency.

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I'm sorry I tried to take you seriously.

Have fun with Mary Palm and her five friends, that's all the action you are going to see in Switzerland, or anywhere else, probably. As for the possibility of being invited to any events organized here, or meeting anyone through this site, you can probably forget that, too, because you seem not to like or have respect for anyone except yourself. Maybe Mr. Groans can meet up with you and you can both sit in the corner hating all the hypocrites that haven't achieved your level of enlightenment and those that don't live up to your exquisitely honed aesthetic sense.

BTW, Facebook isn't real life, stop confusing the two. I have 800 friends on it because I'm in a band and I have a lot of acquaintances and contacts from work and play, but I'd only lend money to a few of them, and I wouldn't ask every female one on a date. Get real and stop blaming other people because they don't fit your fantasy world or have to make excuses not to date you.
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the problem is to make the girl come
That's a whole different topic...
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I don't know what is the fresking problem?
I said I don't want to sit in a place and meet and greet 40+ years old, since it is not my target group and it is a waste od time.
Also I don't want to meet persons that do not satisfy some other criteria, since again there is no point. And it is much more efficient if we understand each other on this. Now that is called Swiss efficiency.
Have you considered dating sites then? I guess you can arrange a few dates a day, at different hours. Like in a doctor's office.. Talking about efficiency.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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And that Viadukt is frequented also by the younger crowd or...?

Please no ugly old girls, EXCESSIVE fat makes me puke, and being not that much gifted in the beauty department offends my delicate senses for aestetic...
Also being clueless about fashion doesn't help at all.

I think you want to post this under: How not to hook up in Switzerland.

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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And that Viadukt is frequented also by the younger crowd or...?

Please no ugly old girls, EXCESSIVE fat makes me puke, and being not that much gifted in the beauty department offends my delicate senses for aestetic...
Also being clueless about fashion doesn't help at all.
I think you need to lay off the FIGJAM.

Unfortunately,this threads has flatlined..the OP is completely unresponsive....time to call it...

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

I do that also, knowing that many girls flake...

Last time we did an excursion I invited 15 people for an event planned for just 4 participants, knowing that 10 people will be intrested, 8 will accept and 50% will flake last minute, in the end I had just the correct number.

Tell me something I don't know already...I really don't want to believe I am that smart and came to the end of the exploration path of this stupid social dynamics...

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Have you considered dating sites then? I guess you can arrange a few dates a day, at different hours. Like in a doctor's office.. Talking about efficiency.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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and what do you have against sheep??
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