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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

I don't know where did you pull the "afford" thing from...I never mentioned economics, or who can and should afford what and when lol

I invited a girl to go shopping with me in Germany, does that counts lol?
It's far more intresting and you can have a nice talk about the choices of stuff you two buy...In my book much better then a boring dinner.

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With social conditioning do you mean that girls do not like whining loners? Or that they prefer guys who can afford to invite them to a dinner?

I don't really agree that this is a particularly Swiss thing though...
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

1. The Swiss are very closed minded and their mentality and personality have remained in the village even though they might be born and live in zurich.

2. No we are not debating about New York City. This is Zurich, a small city; an area made up of small communities governed by small rat houses

3. Yes Zurich universities are very good for research. But we are discussing the problem of socializing. Perhaps many of these students have their minds locked in books and text. That,s not the social part of the brain!!

4. Germanic style is about central planning and central authority not the individual.




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The only thing 2D is your answer.

Let me explain:
1. Small mountain villagers are a tiny minority in the Swiss population. Most live in suburban environments.
2. We are talking about Zurich here, a city with 30% foreign population
3. We are talking about an extremely international and diverse university environment, definitely over average even for Zurich.
4. Not quite sure what you mean with Germanic style, but the OP complained that people are not direct enough. Germans are fairly direct, so much so that other people consider it too much so and not "romantic" enough...

Honestly: We all love to bitch about the Swiss, but if you cannot find a date in Zurich you will not in London or Paris either... Thailand might work, but make sure it is a female...
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

82 posts already for the "I-don't-know-how-to-talk-to-girls-and-get-laid" guy? Seriously?

I mean, half of the posts are from him, but I think the topic's been done to death.

Quick summary:

- 26-year-old guy is newish to Zürich
- doesn't speak German and having trouble pulling chicks
- asks for advice online
- ignores advice received online
- nothing changes
- guy still can't pull.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

So you advocate I need to go to a rock climbing course and climb for a year and then maybe meet a girl first like a friend and then in another 2 years she becomes my soulmate and we live happily ever after??

I told you, my hobbies are:
-Go and party. No big boring talks and fuss, enjoy the music grab a girl, dance, kiss, maybe meet later if there is a mutual intrest, if not bye, the next. If we hook up, then maybe later we develop some more profound talks.
-Go travel. Call a girl Saturday morning and say...We take the car and go to Italy, you have 30min time to be ready. In the meantime I book us a hostel in some cool place, there we walk, explore whatever. Or just bring laptops and do work if we have, but at least we changed the place. Hell, I was even travelling to Barcelona just to have a coffee and a meal for 1 day.
-Work hard (and party harder), a cliche' but...
-Gyms, fitness,...We go and boost our hormones a bit and then later shag like crazy or just enjoy a shower together. Too much computer use draws energy down.
-Everyday stuff, find pleasures in everything, small coffee in the afternoon, groceries, car washing, post office, gemeinde shit, insurance policies, bank...
-Life is the best hobby

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Earlier , you were complaining about being bored by the basic level of conversation. What exaclty are you looking for?

What are your interests - not much substance in partying at the best of ties, even though it is fun. If you don't have any interests or hobbies, then develop some so that you can meet people with common interests.

Are you bored, or are you boring?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?


The discussion is not "how to pick up chicks?"
don't judge a book by it's cover title


The main question is: why are Swiss young people so tight, so guarded, so by the book. Why can't they feel, be more friendly and act on emotion?

Socializing and relationships are about emotional intelligence. Not laws, or books etc...




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82 posts already for the "I-don't-know-how-to-talk-to-girls-and-get-laid" guy? Seriously?

I mean, half of the posts are from him, but I think the topic's been done to death.

Quick summary:

- 26-year-old guy is newish to Zürich
- doesn't speak German and having trouble pulling chicks
- asks for advice online
- ignores advice received online
- nothing changes
- guy still can't pull.
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Nope, you're the one who takes a good behavioral model and ties it to a terrible premise, so you can sound intelligent about complaining that things here don't work they way they do in your home country.

This thread is simple. The OP wants to get some action, but he's more than a little bit narcissistic, and has about as much game as a corpse apparently. Its not about Maslow and self-actualization, if anywhere on Maslow's pretty pyramid it's the third level (Love/Belonging).

And besides, have you realized that this is its own country and their modes of self-actualization may be so foreign to you that you wouldn't recognize them if you saw them firsthand?

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Who want's to chip in for a hooker for our fellow?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Jeez, whats with all these whiny (and apparently deaf) new members on EF these days?

It used to attract a better class of... umm, no... wait...
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Jeez, whats with all these whiny (and apparently deaf) new members on EF these days?

It used to attract a better class of... umm, no... wait...
But this is a great thread for a Friday...
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

It is possible that this is mars and the Swiss are aliens. That would explain how they self-actualize in such foreign ways...

But seriously, I think that it is much more simple. The Swiss are simple people, physically, hormonaly and emotionally underdeveloped people.

The current democratic capitalist environment favors people who focus on books and their profession specialization. But don't tell me something is wrong with me because I feel more and because I want to feel even more. I dont do drugs and I am very healthy and strong physically and emotionally; don't tell me that something is wrong with me and don't label me a black sheep foreign alien.


where are you from originally?


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Nope, you're the one who takes a good behavioral model and ties it to a terrible premise, so you can sound intelligent about complaining that things here don't work they way they do in your home country.

This thread is simple. The OP wants to get some action, but he's more than a little bit narcissistic, and has about as much game as a corpse apparently. Its not about Maslow and self-actualization, if anywhere on Maslow's pretty pyramid it's the third level (Love/Belonging).

And besides, have you realized that this is its own country and their modes of self-actualization may be so foreign to you that you wouldn't recognize them if you saw them firsthand?
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So you advocate I need to go to a rock climbing course and climb for a year and then maybe meet a girl first like a friend and then in another 2 years she becomes my soulmate and we live happily ever after??

I told you, my hobbies are:
-Go and party. No big boring talks and fuss, enjoy the music grab a girl, dance, kiss, maybe meet later if there is a mutual intrest, if not bye, the next. If we hook up, then maybe later we develop some more profound talks.
-Go travel. Call a girl Saturday morning and say...We take the car and go to Italy, you have 30min time to be ready. In the meantime I book us a hostel in some cool place, there we walk, explore whatever. Or just bring laptops and do work if we have, but at least we changed the place. Hell, I was even travelling to Barcelona just to have a coffee and a meal for 1 day.
-Work hard (and party harder), a cliche' but...
-Gyms, fitness,...We go and boost our hormones a bit and then later shag like crazy or just enjoy a shower together. Too much computer use draws energy down.
-Everyday stuff, find pleasures in everything, small coffee in the afternoon, groceries, car washing, post office, gemeinde shit, insurance policies, bank...
-Life is the best hobby
Entertaining thread, makes a good lazy Friday read! This post is not that bad, except all I hear is "I", "I", "I". Some women out there might like that type of controlling, "full of myself" behavior I guess... I do agree with you about life being the best hobby.

You wrote several times about people being on FB/online, not having the courage to show their face and talk directly, etc. Fair enough, come down one Thursday night to the Viadukt as grumpygrapefruit suggested, one to break away from your usual environment, and two because there are lots of cool people (men and women) to meet.

I am happy with a nice man whom I love very much, and so I must behave. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, because sometimes people in real life turn out much better than how they sound online, but I won't deny that if I had come across a thread like this when I was still single, with the kind of attitude that comes out of your posts, I would have challenged you to meet in real life and would have greatly enjoyed crumbling down these pompous walls you put up and eating you alive, piece by piece, and very slowly. With a smile on my face the whole time.

Good luck "hooking up".
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what to talk about then? seriously? roflcopter!!! youre in a f"ckin club so what about music?
"roflcopter"... certainly my new word of the day!
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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82 posts already for the "I-don't-know-how-to-talk-to-girls-and-get-laid" guy? Seriously?

I mean, half of the posts are from him, but I think the topic's been done to death.

Quick summary:

- 26-year-old guy is newish to Zürich
- doesn't speak German and having trouble pulling chicks
- asks for advice online
- ignores advice received online
- nothing changes
- guy still can't pull.
Slow week I guess.

Personally, I think the OP has self-esteem issues, it has happened to me before. I've felt I needed "success" with girls to feel better about myself, when in fact, it needs to work the other way around...I needed to feel better in my own skin, then everything else came naturally. Now I am solid and complete with myself, and I have no issues or difficulties "hooking up" for want of a better term.

A bit of effort on integration would not go astray either.
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Are there no clubs (not night clubs), groups, social clubs, societies etc where people with similar interests get together at the university?
Gyms, bars, pubs and clubs can tend to be more like meat markets, where everyone knows exactly what you are there for. If you can meet like thinking people (girls and boys), you will start to make real friendships.

http://www.uzh.ch/studies/studentlif...arious_en.html
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It is possible that this is mars and the Swiss are aliens. That would explain how they self-actualize in such foreign ways...

But seriously, I think that it is much more simple. The Swiss are simple people, physically, hormonaly and emotionally underdeveloped people.

The current democratic capitalist environment favors people who focus on books and their profession specialization. But don't tell me something is wrong with me because I feel more and because I want to feel even more. I dont do drugs and I am very healthy and strong physically and emotionally; don't tell me that something is wrong with me and don't label me a black sheep foreign alien.


where are you from originally?
And, by inference, you're a "complex" person, right?

I never said ANYTHING about YOU. Why would I? I don't KNOW you. I said your premise was bad.

The sooner you recognize your own preconceived notions about "how things should be," the sooner you'll be able to decide what to do with them, and the better off you'll be here. And, if you want to say "Why can't things be they way they are back home?" just come out and say it; don't dress it up with textbook theory. We've all probably asked that question at least once; I know I have.

I'm from the USA, btw.
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A bit of effort on integration would not go astray either.
Ditto.

INTERGRATION is the key to a happy life here in Switzerland.


5 years in.......i am living proof.



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Dunno, reading posts from this guy suggests he should stay in Kindergarten and keep away from grownups.

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