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How to hook up in Switzerland?

My typical day starts by taking an early morning train/bus to the uni. The majority of people just walk around with their face glued to the iPhone and the headphones stuck in their ears, so it's quite boring. Majority sleepy and overworked, or worried or whatever...nobody even exchanges looks or smilies or whatever.

In the uni the situation is even more catastrophic, the people are plain boring, I am not kidding! In fact they just sit around aimlessly and in 2 months I got to now only a dozen people, and each of them I had to approach first, chase and babysit them until we became (wow) Facebook friends!

No one shows any initiative and I don't know who is more dull, Auslanders or locals. Asian girls are paranoic and intrested just to travel around Europe and take FB photos, Greeks are helplessly melanholic and stick only to...well Greeks. Nordish people stick to their own countrymen, pissed off by the lack of "satisfactory" female material. Locals still hang with their pre-school or kindergarten buddies...And no the hell I am not generalising! I approached and talked to most of people there and I have a what I believe is statistically valid sample to claim this.
For sure there are student "parties" and events, but hell are they boring! Just bla bla bla always on same topics "Me travelled to Paris...Me did this...Me did that...". You even can't hear the DJ music, how loud is bla bla bla the whole night and then nach house gehen, but everyone to his or her house. If you were lucky you got at maximum a freaking FB friend, to maybe go together to a supermarket 3 months from now, since if you ask her immediately she is busy, overplanned, sick, visiting friend and studying all at the same time, the bottom line uncomfortable to do anything even the most banal of things like a coffee downtown in a public place surrounded by a horde of policemen...
Any sexual topic or flirt is misunderstood or avoided like a plague, and discussed only online with some creepy girls with mental problems, one of them I talk to regulary for a lack of better things to do in this boring and overpriced town...She totally hates guys and does not want to interact with anyone but through online means and yes she still thinks she is the smartest...

Night scene is nothing better, unless the girl(s) are a bit drunk, which is a rare occurence given the price of alchocol. Just coldness, lack of any avanturistic spirit, pre-historic believes and social conditioning, etc.

Actuall many foreign students I know resigned completely and just fell into depression where they just sit on Facebook the whole day. Maybe someone goes to the gym, in a mechanic way and of course always with their headphones in the ears - since otherwise it would be always so quiet and depressing!!

I totally can't believe anyone hooking up or having a relationship here, since I cannot figure out how dammit they meet to start with? There is some loction or "tactic" I am missing or...
I mean, it can't be so hard...we go for a drink, we dance somewhere, we go travelling to some place, sit in a room, put some intresting movie. But here as soon as you open your mouth in front of a person you don't already know, you are considered a total freak, I even had girls yell "Nein, nein" even after I just asked them where the bar is.

And yes, I believe the students are the most affected and asocial group of people in this town, unfortunatelly.
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Old 01.11.2012, 20:54
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

You're in Zurich, young, and can't get laid? Really? Is there something obviously wrong with you, or are you overly fussy?
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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You're in Zurich, young, and can't get laid? Really? Is there something obviously wrong with you, or are you overly fussy?
Maybe the OP would do better if s/he were middle-aged, fat and frumpy?


Dear OP.
Sorry to agree with Adrian on this but I've been approached by complete strangers asking if I'd like to "go for coffee" (this seems to be local code for "have a quick romp") with them - so, if *I* have potential, surely you do too?


Meanwhile, my usually suggestion is to seek out groups who enjoy doing the same hobbies as you, as opposed to going out. If you're having fun, it will be easier to get to know folks and maybe agree to group outings together, and perhaps you can meet someone interested in you that way.

Of course, meeting this way is probably more likely to yield a sweetie than a "hook up" but you never know. Some gals inclined to "hooking up" tend to like to keep that on the down low, more of a "friends with benefits" thing, with the benefits being relatively secret.

Who knows, out of that you maybe not only find a sweetie (or whatever you're looking for) but perhaps some actual friends along the way.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Hm, I don't believe physical appearance is a problem. Do you really think for GIRLS it's so crucial?
For guys I can imagine it is, but not so sure about the other way around...

And considering how some of the local girls look (fat legs, fat asses, too much processed food, fast livestyle...) yes, I am good looking.

I though the problem was that I don't speak local language, only some German, or maybe the fact that I am auslander, but still com'on...If you don't believe me come to the ETH and see for yourselves what kind of people are sitting there, either total geeks or totally depressed...
The maximum is to attend presentations and get together cocktails on meaningless topics and again "Me worked here...Me travelled there...Me met Barack Obama..." bla bla bla.

For sure you can hook up with a girl here, just the question is which type of girl...
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Beggars cant be choosers....
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

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Beggars cant be choosers....
Beggars or not, there are some standards that cannot be lowered...Why take on a 2nd or 3rd girlfriend, if the 1st one is a real mistress compared to all those "my nose is up in the skys" girls.

Ask around, how many people are in long distance relationships here??
How many go abroad to shag something? Why Swiss travell so much lol? Cuz it's cheaper to go abroad and they get much higher status and much better chances abroad.
How many of them are bankers marrying brasilians, russians, african girls...

Geeky...Sorry at what age the average Swiss guy/girl marries?

Should give you some insight. If you can prove me wrong, I'd be very happy, I always welcome and love people who DISAGREE with me.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

Can you elaborate more on how exactly you were approached and by whom?

Let's say I enjoy gym, fitness, zumba...I can go there for 2 months and meet no one, since during the training you keep quiet and do what you came there for, after that there are separate locker rooms for guys and girls and once out the door, all the people usually glue immediately their iPhone to call someone and hell they run home or whereever.

What I am intrested about are real stories and experiences, what exactly happened and how, not some theoretic biespiel about what might be...

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Dear OP.
Sorry to agree with Adrian on this but I've been approached by complete strangers asking if I'd like to "go for coffee" (this seems to be local code for "have a quick romp") with them - so, if *I* have potential, surely you do too?


Meanwhile, my usually suggestion is to seek out groups who enjoy doing the same hobbies as you, as opposed to going out. If you're having fun, it will be easier to get to know folks and maybe agree to group outings together, and perhaps you can meet someone interested in you that way.

Of course, meeting this way is probably more likely to yield a sweetie than a "hook up" but you never know. Some gals inclined to "hooking up" tend to like to keep that on the down low, more of a "friends with benefits" thing, with the benefits being relatively secret.

Who knows, out of that you maybe not only find a sweetie (or whatever you're looking for) but perhaps some actual friends along the way.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

So are you looking for a relationship or just random sex?
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boyo youre damn right! through my ex swiss gf i was "part of" the uni scene and was nearly shocked about all the symptoms you portrait. boring boring boring! all i can say (in general) look up the gigs thread in here as i found to go together with some EFers to a band i like a nice athmosphere and easy to get people to know. and its outside of uni as i can imagine it sux to talk about seminars and lectures n stuff.

but what you said about zh nightlife i find it to be the complete opposite. ok i speak german and i dunno how it is for somebody that doesnt. i got easy into contact with girls and was very surprised how easy it was and why me?! i say find somebody to go out with (see nightclub threads) let it flow, dont be desperate and dont be friggin' desperate! no hook up lines, simply ask for a lighter or something n see how it works to chat with a girl and more...
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So are you looking for a relationship or just random sex?
It would be nice to have a coffee downtown to start with and then see later...I don't know why people always plan 5 steps in advance, remainds me of that cartoon where the fox is putting up a fire and cutting vegetables for a rabbit soup...and then there is just one ingredient missing: a rabbit
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

I really never understood this question...I am coming out of a very very bad seperation/divorce and I've had no issues finding women to date here in CH. Are you shy? Because I notice many guys are quite shy but think they're not...
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

yeah it makes sense

believe me, speaking no (or bad) German is no fun at all...

maybe I was going to the wrong places or whatever...i recall once we ended up in Lady Hamilton's in Zurich. me and a bunch of other ETH students. Needless to say, all the other left after 00 since they were "tired" (no one actually had the courage to say "bored" as hell) after 3 hours of sitting and drinking 1 beer and bla bla...

I stayed there with one friend till 2, it was a total disaster all the girls looking just in iPhone, almost nobody dancing at the dancefloor, and girls actually trying to run away or turning their backs to you...no fun...no grinding...not even a boring talk, nothing...just bla bla with their female friends and then iPhone again



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boyo youre damn right! through my ex swiss gf i was "part of" the uni scene and was nearly shocked about all the symptoms you portrait. boring boring boring! all i can say (in general) look up the gigs thread in here as i found to go together with some EFers to a band i like a nice athmosphere and easy to get people to know. and its outside of uni as i can imagine it sux to talk about seminars and lectures n stuff.

but what you said about zh nightlife i find it to be the complete opposite. ok i speak german and i dunno how it is for somebody that doesnt. i got easy into contact with girls and was very surprised how easy it was and why me?! i say find somebody to go out with (see nightclub threads) let it flow, dont be desperate and dont be friggin' desperate! no hook up lines, simply ask for a lighter or something n see how it works to chat with a girl and more...
Another problem might be...what to talk about after the "do you have a lighter" and for how long and all...Since it sometimes bores the hell out of both parties. I am more for grab a girl nearby, go to the bar for a drink and then sing and laugh and party with no substantial talk kind of stuff...Well maybe the talk would come later, after party lol...
But seems I'll have to adjust the strategies for this freaking Swiss scene...
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I really never understood this question...I am coming out of a very very bad seperation/divorce and I've had no issues finding women to date here in CH. Are you shy? Because I notice many guys are quite shy but think they're not...
Same here but the opposite gender. Never had a problem being approached by guys. Most of them though though that bumping "accidentally" into me was a great hookup move. And then there were the other guys that went around the room talking to every single girl in the hope that somebody will speak to them. Emm no thanks mate. My phone is more interesting than a desperate weirdo
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let it flow, dont be desperate and dont be friggin' desperate!
OP, listen to flow23. It's the paradox of desperation...the more you want it, the more likely you won't get it. Women are atune to this fibe in the same way men are atune to bunny boilers. Relax, go out simply to meet people and have a good time and expect to go home alone.

That is assuming you are a reasonably attractive individual. If you are fugly in anyway, then disregard all of the above.
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My phone is more interesting than a desperate weirdo
This is exactly the result of being shy...People think that not being shy means saying Hi How are you? and then what??? LOL
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How to hook up in Switzerland?
Let me ask you the other way around: how did you hook up in your mother country? Well, the body language's pretty much the same, everywhere. Just follow the same patterns and be yourself (a cliché line, but it's true).

By the way, you live in a BIG city like Zurich. You do have abundant options to go out, join clubs probably, start a hobby... Even Lausanne, which has a 1/3 of Zurich's population, has options. What would you do if you were in Lausanne? Get yourself drown in Lac Léman?

I think you are actually missing the big picture here. From your posts I get the impression that you are "desperate" to find a girl (or to have sex, either way). Getting yourself a girl is not (for me, at least), a matter of "life and death".

You can survive without a girl, but you cannot survive without yourself. Without getting to terms that you are living in another country, you have to adapt, you have to begin from scratch and form strong friendships. I know it's hard, but it's your duty to your optimistic self, which you have left behind.

And, as I said, strong friendships. This is also hard to get and needs years to develop mutual trust, but a good and trusted friend will be probably be your most valuable companion. A girl might just wake up one day and walk out on you... just like that. How are you going to survive after such an event if you are building up your life around getting a girl?

Don't get me wrong if I sound too harsh, but no offense, just giving basic survival tips. You should look after yourself first.

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I don't want to sound biased, but... we (oups, I just blew myself) are not that closed-minded. I can tell you actually that we tend to make good company with non-Greeks and of course switch to English when the company's mixed. Even in greek parties there are many non-Greeks which we invite and indeed show up.
So, you should probably try again.
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Re: How to hook up in Switzerland?

What exactly happens at Greek parties? Always wanted to know...

The OP needs to hook up with that "Notwithstanding" chick from a few weeks ago who posted that guys were just not that into her. We could get a little EF matchmaking service going here
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What exactly happens at Greek parties? Always wanted to know...

The OP needs to hook up with that "Notwithstanding" chick from a few weeks ago who posted that guys were just not that into her. We could get a little EF matchmaking service going here
We cant tell... you have to see for yourself
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