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Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

I am always sensitive when eat comes the foods I eat, and always tend to buy natural (bio) products at whatever the cost, but after coming to Switzerland, I have heard that:
1 - The Swiss have banned the import of GMO foods, and hence No GMO's in here
2 - GMO food labeling is mandatory in Europe
3 - http://www.gmo-free-regions.org/gmo-...itzerland.html Here it says, 84 Manucipalities in Swiss have banned GMO foods. ( Lausanne isn't in the list)
4 - It says here: http://www.gmo-free-regions.org/gmo-...retailers.html that Migros and Coop have banned GMO products from their stores


So, one says the Swiss have banned all GMO foods,
the other says only 84 manucipalities have banned GMO, then you see Migro & Coop are GMO free, but if that is the case, then why serve products labeled "Bio" in Migros?
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Old 04.11.2012, 19:23
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why serve products labeled "Bio" in Migros?
Bio has nothing to do with GMO.

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1 - The Swiss have banned the import of GMO foods, and hence No GMO's in here
Import is allowed AFAIK but heavily restricted.

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2 - GMO food labeling is mandatory in Europe
Don't know about Europe but it is in Switzerland.

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3 - http://www.gmo-free-regions.org/gmo-...itzerland.html Here it says, 84 Manucipalities in Swiss have banned GMO foods. ( Lausanne isn't in the list)
Doesn't matter as the municipalities have no jurisdiction over this.

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4 - It says here: http://www.gmo-free-regions.org/gmo-...retailers.html that Migros and Coop have banned GMO products from their stores
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why serve products labeled "Bio" in Migros?
'bio' means much more than just GMO free. E.g. no artificial fertilizers or pesticides, etc.
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Re: Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

BIO is about a set of rules that if you comply then things get labelled Bi to allow the retailer to charge a higher price since consumers think it is free of all fertilizers etc - reality is that bio definitions vary tremendously
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Re: Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

Bio, or organic, is nothing more than commercial agriculture practices but with "natural inputs" and can still be just as polluting as standard agriculture. Bio chicken can still be grown in tight cages where the waste still ends up in the water supply but they are feed "bio" products. Bio is one of the biggest scams ever as it does nothing to address the excess waste created by big agribusiness. Although I am glad that CH has severely restricted GMO foods and bio is more or less better than standard agriculture but not by much.
Biodynamics is the only agriculture theory that actually gives more back to the earth than it takes both from an environmental and health perspective.
Have you ever tried a biodynamic wine? Amazing, complex and with true terrior. Some of the biggest names in the wine world such as Romani De Conti are Biodynamic and there are quite a few biodynamic farms here in CH which you can go and visit and try their produce. But be forewarned that you will never look at store bought produce the same afterwards, or wine. Now I spend a fortune on buying wine and I am in the process of converting my vineyard in Ticino from bio to biodynamic.
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Re: Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

Bio veggi are growen on cow,horse,schweins and chicken shit . non bio veggi are grown by Esso,Schell,PB,Texaco,Petrocan Etc.Etc. Ah and Dupon
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Re: Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

if they are labeled great. but i have never seen any such labels and believe me i look. there are foreign imports such as from the usa, like ritz crackers or oreos. i know these products contain gmos, but i cannot find that label. i hate gmo. has anyone seen these labels?
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Bio chicken can still be grown in tight cages where the waste still ends up in the water supply but they are feed "bio" products.
Sources please?
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... i hate gmo...
I hate gmos as well. Sprouts are disgusting, and whoever invented these things...



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if they are labeled great. but i have never seen any such labels and believe me i look. there are foreign imports such as from the usa, like ritz crackers or oreos. i know these products contain gmos, but i cannot find that label. i hate gmo. has anyone seen these labels?
They may do in the US, but they don't if sold in Europe
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I hate gmos as well. Sprouts are disgusting, and whoever invented these things...



I love Romanesco!
It is very old, dates back to the 16th century.
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I love Romanesco!
It is very old, dates back to the 16th century.
I know - I was only teasing. But it looks so artificial (and I hate the texture)!
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if they are labeled great. but i have never seen any such labels and believe me i look. there are foreign imports such as from the usa, like ritz crackers or oreos. i know these products contain gmos, but i cannot find that label. i hate gmo. has anyone seen these labels?
GMO labeling is not required in USA:
http://www.ibtimes.com/gmo-labeling-...policy-1270825
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Re: Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

With this news, how GMO free will Switzerland stay, and why are they sneaking in the trials when I am sure trials of all kinds have happened already around the globe...

http://worldradio.ch/wrs/news/wrsnew...al.shtml?36801
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Re: Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

On one had you get the idea about Swiss farm produce being so expensive and the tight rules for using"Made in Switzerland" label. On the other hand there are studies showing pesticides in Swiss beers and reports that glyphosate was found in the urine of 40% of participants in a study carried out in French-speaking Switzerland.

National Geographic - What Do We Really Know About Roundup Weed Killer:

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Glyphosate is not included in the U.S. government’s testing of food for pesticide residues or the monitoring of chemicals in human blood and tissues. As a result, there is no information on how much people are exposed to from using it in their yards, living near farms or eating foods from treated fields.
The big unanswered question is the potential health effect of low levels over extended periods of time.
According to the Swiss Federal Constitution and the "Federal act on non-human gene technology" the use of genetically modified organisms (plants and animals) in Swiss agriculture is currently prohibited by a moratorium extended until December 2017. Last year Coop and Migros announced they will no longer be selling glyphosate. The EU are now reviewing re-authorisation of the world’s most widely used herbicide for the next 15 years and not all European agencies came to the same conclusions.
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Re: Contradicting facts about GMO foods in Swiss

I don't understand why some people tries to use glyphosate as proof that there are GMOs. It's an herbicide. You could use it under hops plants to keep the weeds down, or grapes, orchards, etc.
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I don't understand why some people tries to use glyphosate as proof that there are GMOs. It's an herbicide. You could use it under hops plants to keep the weeds down, or grapes, orchards, etc.
Bought a bottle of glyphosate yesterday at Denner.

Wife plans to use it on her parents' grave so don't think there is much chance of it entering the food chain!

Anyway, glyphosate was invented in the '50s in Switzerland, and re-invented in the '70s by Monsanto.

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Bought a bottle of glyphosate yesterday at Denner.

Wife plans to use it on her parents' grave so don't think there is much chance of it entering the food chain!

Tom

To kill weeds?
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To kill weeds?
No, flowers!

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On one had you get the idea about Swiss farm produce being so expensive and the tight rules for using"Made in Switzerland" label. On the other hand there are studies showing pesticides in Swiss beers and reports that glyphosate was found in the urine of 40% of participants in a study carried out in French-speaking Switzerland.

National Geographic - What Do We Really Know About Roundup Weed Killer:



According to the Swiss Federal Constitution and the "Federal act on non-human gene technology" the use of genetically modified organisms (plants and animals) in Swiss agriculture is currently prohibited by a moratorium extended until December 2017. Last year Coop and Migros announced they will no longer be selling glyphosate. The EU are now reviewing re-authorisation of the world’s most widely used herbicide for the next 15 years and not all European agencies came to the same conclusions.
Here we go with the good old "Glyphosate!! Monsatan!!!1111" hysteria once again. Referring to your cited beer study; OK so Swiss beer contains up to 21microg/L of Glyphosate, a "probable" carcinogen according to the WHO. It also contains, on average, 50g/L of ethanol, a "known" carcinogen, according to the WHO. That's a 2 million fold difference. I think their priorities are a little skewed.

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