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Leaving at the end of the month. Quite relieved to be going. Lived in 10 countries now, this one has been by far the most difficult to live in. It's a pity...nice scenery...shame about everything else.
I get the feeling that a lot of paid swiss are on this forum to keep the English speakers at in line... nazy socialist cultural police? security and intelligence services? amateurs? I dont know but they sure are on this English forum keeping English speakers in line...
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Right! No soup for you, Mr Baxter!
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Old 13.11.2012, 16:10
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A Swiss salary is a salary paid in Switzerland

I have no idea the percentage.
Are you trying to tell me that the job you do here is paid exactly the same in Italy, Spain, the UK?
Then by definition we are all on a "Swiss Salary". Fair enough. Nice to know

I would get the same salary in the UK, I don't know about Spain or Italy. Their average IT salaries are lower than here and the UK, but I'm in a specialist area which they may (or may not) be willing to pay for.

I understand that this could mean I'm underpaid here, which no doubgt helps to explain the fact I usually stick up for people who say things are expensive here.
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I really want some nachos now.
With fake orange cheese sauce and jalepenos... Yummy...
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Old 13.11.2012, 16:21
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I get the feeling that a lot of paid swiss are on this forum to keep the English speakers at in line... nazy socialist cultural police? security and intelligence services? amateurs? I dont know but they sure are on this English forum keeping English speakers in line...
Right, let's only have english speakers, from english speaking countries on here, to come up with ideas about Swiss people and Switzerland, and how they are oh so controlling and stand offish.

What's nazy socialists? Is that referring to something I need my NeoCitran for?
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Old 13.11.2012, 16:35
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I think it's funny how many people think that Switzerland is so expensive. Try living in Toronto.

The average rent here for a 500 sq ft apt is approx. $1650. Take into account that the average wage is approx. $45,000... We are taxed higher than Switzerland and our cost of living is about the same. In addition, our minimum wage is only about 10.50/hr.

Ok, we don't have mandatory health insurance (we're covered under OHIP), but god forbid you get sick and don't have additonal coverage. You'll wait three months to see a cancer speciallist in some cases.

whoooo... okay.. I'm done ranting now.
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I completly agree with Mandy_Moe, prices in Canada are not so cheap, but the salary are not great at all. Salary are lower with higher taxes and not always better services.
I went diner with familly last summer in a big restaurant chain and it costed around 30$, for a normal meal and a pint of beer (you always have taxes and ~10-15% tip to add).

It's true, Germans complains a lot about Swiss prices, but Germans always complain about prices being too high
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Right, let's only have English speakers, from English speaking countries on here, to come up with ideas about Swiss people and Switzerland, and how they are oh so controlling and stand offish.
Are controlling men a Swiss stereotype?
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Right, let's only have english speakers, from english speaking countries on here, to come up with ideas about Swiss people and Switzerland, and how they are oh so controlling and stand offish.

What's nazy socialists? Is that referring to something I need my NeoCitran for?
I am an English speaker from an English speaking country- just as much as I am a French speaking Swiss - some of us are funny like that
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Then by definition we are all on a "Swiss Salary". Fair enough. Nice to know

I would get the same salary in the UK, I don't know about Spain or Italy. Their average IT salaries are lower than here and the UK, but I'm in a specialist area which they may (or may not) be willing to pay for.

I understand that this could mean I'm underpaid here, which no doubgt helps to explain the fact I usually stick up for people who say things are expensive here.
But at least you still like it here to stay even though salary is not up to your mark.
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I'm not missing Nachos and don't even know what they are but, even after all these years in la belle suisse, I still miss soft brown sugar, 2 kgs. of which I had to find room for in my suitcase when I came back from London last week.
Ceppych - you should have said, our small village supermarket sells perfect soft moist brownsugar, for Belgium!
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My problem is when expats who more than likely do get paid a generous Swiss salary complain that everything is too expensive.
Yes it is expensive, that's why you have a generous salary.
Christ on a bike - STFU about 'Swiss salaries' already

An hell of a lot of ex pats - myself included, are not on, not a part of, nor anywhere near the international corporate gravy train - which bit of that do you have trouble understanding
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Old 13.11.2012, 18:14
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I think it's funny how many people think that Switzerland is so expensive. Try living in Toronto.

The average rent here for a 500 sq ft apt is approx. $1650. Take into account that the average wage is approx. $45,000... We are taxed higher than Switzerland and our cost of living is about the same. In addition, our minimum wage is only about 10.50/hr.

Ok, we don't have mandatory health insurance (we're covered under OHIP), but god forbid you get sick and don't have additonal coverage. You'll wait three months to see a cancer speciallist in some cases.

whoooo... okay.. I'm done ranting now.
yeah but Drive-thru @ The Beer Store..............
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yeah but Drive-thru @ The Beer Store..............
Maybe up north - but nowhere around here.
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I get the feeling that a lot of paid swiss are on this forum to keep the English speakers at in line... nazy socialist cultural police? security and intelligence services? amateurs? I dont know but they sure are on this English forum keeping English speakers in line...
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Are controlling men a Swiss stereotype?
Controlling, like being over organizational freaks, yes. With their women, I have no idea. But it wasn't my point actually.
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Christ on a bike - STFU about 'Swiss salaries' already

An hell of a lot of ex pats - myself included, are not on, not a part of, nor anywhere near the international corporate gravy train - which bit of that do you have trouble understanding

I'll help you out here as you seem to be 'hard of reading'.

Read back some of the post you will see words like 'majority', 'more than likely' etc. meaning there is a minority and there is room for some that do not fall into the category.

And if you read really hard, this op states in one of the posts that he is paid well.
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I'm sure I've been down the 401 to some almost-Michigan locations and had the pleasure.

I love road pop
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Christ on a bike - STFU about 'Swiss salaries' already

An hell of a lot of ex pats - myself included, are not on, not a part of, nor anywhere near the international corporate gravy train - which bit of that do you have trouble understanding
Christ on a bike? I am laughing, but I don't even know why.
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Christ on a bike - STFU about 'Swiss salaries' already

An hell of a lot of ex pats - myself included, are not on, not a part of, nor anywhere near the international corporate gravy train - which bit of that do you have trouble understanding
But many, many are. And anyway, even with average salary a la suisse, you can live damn cheap IF you want and save a lot. People need to be genuinely stupid or have tremendous amount of bad luck to end up on the street.
Example - when I came here, my total expenses while looking for a job, while living in shared flat in quite central Zurich were about 1100 CHF. Right now they are about 2000-2500 CHF + exceptional stuff like christmas or travelling around the globe.
Back home, average net salary doesn't even reach 500 EUR, accommodation is not that cheap either, and costly stuff like electronics, cars etc. cost +- same as everywhere, sometimes even more.
So whine all ya want, this is a true paradise for financially wise people. If that's not your case, think about space for improvement, there is probably some
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