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This remark in itself is highly racist assuming only non whites look criminal, didnt you realise some of the biggest criminals are actually white!

thank you, i was just counting the seconds before that sort of response was posted.

i cant see where i mention anything about criminality, but im not wearing my glasses... please highlight it for me.

I hope you are not one of the many bleeding hearts on this forum that goes out of the way to be offended by comments?

If you can not understand why I asked about race please put me on your ignore list.
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Where have you been? Of course they can stop anybody at any time.

Then, to top it off, they can make you walk home (so to say) as they confiscate your car and the cash in your wallet... just on a hunch or gut feeling that they may have... that you may be using that car or cash for drugs or to support terrorism. Ever heard of Asset Forfeiture? Look it up.

BTW, I just went off topic. Back to Netapp's situation.
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In my 30 years in the states I haven't been stopped by the police once! other than for speeding where a radar was involved to identify my wrongdoing.

I have lived in NYC and DC.
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in the states the police cant check on people going about their business... on the ether hand the population in the states is 310 million compared to 7 million swiss.
Quite likely there are a few more police and agencies in your country too. It's percentages you need to look at and the US has a far higher percentage thaqn the US of people working in various police type organisations
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If a person's appearance reflected his/her inward principles and standards life would be very easy. Kleider machen Leute.
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thank you, i was just counting the seconds before that sort of response was posted.

i cant see where i mention anything about criminality, but im not wearing my glasses... please highlight it for me.

I hope you are not one of the many bleeding hearts on this forum that goes out of the way to be offended by comments?

If you can not understand why I asked about race please put me on your ignore list.
Dont worry I am hard to offend and I am actually rather white just wanted to put a provocating reply
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In my 30 years in the states I haven't been stopped by the police once! other than for speeding where a radar was involved to identify my wrongdoing.

I have lived in NYC and DC.
Go back then, as here is very different to the way things are done in the US and if you can't or won't accept this then you will have serious problems.
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Old 11.11.2012, 12:16
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On the lighter side... just think what would have happened if you had run from the cops in the states... bang, bang... or end up with a M16 in your face Then they would confiscate your shoes because they may have a feeling that you are transporting drugs while wearing them
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In what way is that "the lighter side"?

I've had many interactions with police officers in the US, whether in their professional capacity or mine, as well as several others as an observer, and have NEVER seen anything like this. You obviously watch too much TV.

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So in other words the police in the states are useless, how do they tell a normal person from a criminal. Any police should be able to ask any person when there is a need to find known criminals inthe area. The suggestion of not being allowed to check someone going about their business is crazy so I only need to say I dont feel like answering you and I havent done anything for a policeman to be unable to challenge me - how stupid is that?
How do you tell between "normal" people and criminals?

Of course the police in the US can politely request a questioning session with anyone - but they must give some explanation of why (probable cause).

Meanwhile, HERE, the police are allowed to walk up to you and ask to see identification for the mere verification that you "belong" here. This is not the case in most States as it is a violation of privacy (Arizona recently passed / attempted to pass a law allowing them to question Hispanic individuals and ask for ID, but this is among exceedingly few exceptions).

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Where have you been? Of course they can stop anybody at any time.

Then, to top it off, they can make you walk home (so to say) as they confiscate your car and the cash in your wallet... just on a hunch or gut feeling that they may have... that you may be using that car or cash for drugs or to support terrorism. Ever heard of Asset Forfeiture? Look it up.

BTW, I just went off topic. Back to Netapp's situation.
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Old 11.11.2012, 12:18
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In my 30 years in the states I haven't been stopped by the police once! other than for speeding where a radar was involved to identify my wrongdoing.

I have lived in NYC and DC.
You wont last long in Europe with a stuck up attitude like you are displaying on here. Noone cares about your 30 year history, accept reality and you will do well act like a showoff and you wont
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in the states the police cant check on people going about their business... on the ether hand the population in the states is 310 million compared to 7 million swiss.
It's common in Europe. I don't know what exactly the law says in Switzerland, but in France for example the police can ask you to prove your identity at any time.
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Old 11.11.2012, 12:28
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Re: Police control while waiting in train-station?

Dear Netapp,

The law here is that the police can ask you for identification at any time, but from what I've heard, it's generally not terribly random, rather that they're seeking someone / something.

Unfortunately, I have heard that they target folks with particular looks, looking for people from areas "known" for a tendency to be here illegally (similar to Arizona's targeting of Hispanics).
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It's common in Europe. I don't know what exactly the law says in Switzerland, but in France for example the police can ask you to prove your identity at any time.
In France, it's particularly common if you're not white...
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are you non white?
Maybe Rob1 was thinking of Constable Savage. I'm sure there are no policemen like that here.
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Maybe I should have been more clear.
I did not mind the police action and I don't mind the undercover ticket control either. However it seems a bit unreasonable...
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In my 30 years in the states I haven't been stopped by the police once! other than for speeding where a radar was involved to identify my wrongdoing.

I have lived in NYC and DC.
Which could have resulted in a strip search by the police.

http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/02/ju...ing/index.html

I'm not trying to say this happens frequently, just that there are some strange happenings no matter where you go.
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Maybe I should have been more clear.
I did not mind the police action and I don't mind the undercover ticket control either. However it seems a bit unreasonable...

it prob wont happen again for the next 15 years...
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Maybe I should have been more clear.
I did not mind the police action and I don't mind the undercover ticket control either. However it seems a bit unreasonable...
Don't worry about it a moment longer. Just accept it happened and move on. No biggie really IMHO.

You've had some good and helpful responses, such as from Peg-A, who explained how things work here.

As for the diatribe coming from some of the other posters and who really ought to know way better given that they generally make good, albeit straightforward no-nonsense posts, just take it as water off a duck's back. After all, everyone is entitled to a bad or off day once in while, eh?

Oh and welcome to the forum / Switzerland and don't let this one incident put you off or get you down.
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Don't worry about it a moment longer. Just accept it happened and move on. No biggie really IMHO.

You've had some good and helpful responses, such as from Peg-A, who explained how things work here.

As for the diatribe coming from some of the other posters and who, really ought to know way better given that they generally make good, albeit straightforward no-nonsense posts, just take it as water off a duck's back. After all, everyone is entitled to a bad or off day once in while, eh?

Oh and welcome to the forum / Switzerland and don't let this one incident put you off or get you down.
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As for the diatribe coming from some of the other posters and who really ought to know way better given that they generally make good, albeit straightforward no-nonsense posts, just take it as water off a duck's back. After all, everyone is entitled to a bad or off day once in while, eh?
Its the weather causing us to behave this way too much rain, not enough snow or sun
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Its the weather causing us to behave this way too much rain, not enough snow or sun
Hehe!

There's a saying about rain making a person more beautiful (can't recall the exact German wording). Maybe it only applies to women!?
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Hehe!

There's a saying about rain making a person more beautiful (can't recall the exact German wording). Maybe it only applies to women!?
I don't think it applies to Swiss women, it rains rather a lot here
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