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How efficient are Swiss people in everyday life?

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I heard and red many times that all system in Switzerland as a country is very efficient, but how efficient are Swiss people in everyday life? Are they different, say, than British (or others) in terms of efficiency?

To clarify my question, here are some examples:

1. For example, if you appointed a meeting with Swiss natives they always in time?

2. Do they keep their promises?

3. If someone said that they call at 10.00 do the actually call at 10.00? How punctual they are?

4. Do they follow all rules?

I know that there are many different personalities, but what is the general picture and your perception?

Thank you very much
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Re: How efficient are Swiss people in everyday life?

Your questions all pertain to punctuality, obedience and loyalty/reliability. These qualities are not the same as efficiency. What is it that you actually want to know?
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Your questions all pertain to punctuality, obedience and loyalty/reliability. These qualities are not the same as efficiency. What is it that you actually want to know?
1. If you are not punctual you are not efficient (if you came on meeting at 9.00 and other members are late and came at 9.30, 30 minutes of time has lost and therefore, as result, the efficiency of meeting is decreased)

2. If people do not follow the rules, the all system goes down (see efficiency of countries with polychromic culture types)

If you have any other variables please I will appreciate if you share your opinion, I would like to see whole picture.
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Hello,

I heard and red many times that all system in Switzerland as a country is very efficient, but how efficient are Swiss people in everyday life? Are they different, say, than British (or others) in terms of efficiency?

To clarify my question, here are some examples:

1. For example, if you appointed a meeting with Swiss natives they always in time?

2. Do they keep their promises?

3. If someone said that they call at 10.00 do the actually call at 10.00? How punctual they are?

4. Do they follow all rules?

I know that there are many different personalities, but what is the general picture and your perception?

Thank you very much
1. generally yes
2. n/a
3. yes
4. yes
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1. If you are not punctual you are not efficient (if you came on meeting at 9.00 and other members are late and came at 9.30, 30 minutes of time has lost and therefore, as result, the efficiency of meeting is decreased)

2. If people do not follow the rules, the all system goes down (see efficiency of countries with polychromic culture types)

If you have any other variables please I will appreciate if you share your opinion, I would like to see whole picture.
No no no.

See, there's a very big difference between showing up at 0900 on the dot and putting in your 8-1/2 hours, and actually doing 8-1/2 hours of quality work.

The former would be obedient, the latter efficient.
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Hello,

I heard and red many times that all system in Switzerland as a country is very efficient, but how efficient are Swiss people in everyday life? Are they different, say, than British (or others) in terms of efficiency?

To clarify my question, here are some examples:

1. For example, if you appointed a meeting with Swiss natives they always in time?

2. Do they keep their promises?

3. If someone said that they call at 10.00 do the actually call at 10.00? How punctual they are?

4. Do they follow all rules?

I know that there are many different personalities, but what is the general picture and your perception?

Thank you very much
1. yes, if from a German speaking canton
2. private, yes, business, no.
3. yes. Unless it's cablecom.
4. If they don't like you, yes, if they do, rules are a starting point for finding a mutually better solution.
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1. If you are not punctual you are not efficient (if you came on meeting at 9.00 and other members are late and came at 9.30, 30 minutes of time has lost and therefore, as result, the efficiency of meeting is decreased)

2. If people do not follow the rules, the all system goes down (see efficiency of countries with polychromic culture types)

If you have any other variables please I will appreciate if you share your opinion, I would like to see whole picture.
meeting is probably a waste of time, so arriving late, or skipping it altogether is probably quite efficient!
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Re: How efficient are Swiss people in everyday life?

[QUOTE If people do not follow the rules, the all system goes down (see efficiency of countries with polychromic culture types)[/QUOTE]

What do you mean by "Polychromic culture types" ?
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No no no.

See, there's a very big difference between showing up at 0900 on the dot and putting in your 8-1/2 hours, and actually doing 8-1/2 hours of quality work.

The former would be obedient, the latter efficient.
Disagree, in my opinion both are related to efficiency and both are important. This is two separate dimensions. Again, if you are late for meeting (say, for important discussion), the other members are losing their time (while are waiting for you).
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Hello,

I heard and red many times that all system in Switzerland as a country is very efficient, but how efficient are Swiss people in everyday life? Are they different, say, than British (or others) in terms of efficiency?

To clarify my question, here are some examples:

1. For example, if you appointed a meeting with Swiss natives they always in time?

2. Do they keep their promises?

3. If someone said that they call at 10.00 do the actually call at 10.00? How punctual they are?

4. Do they follow all rules?

I know that there are many different personalities, but what is the general picture and your perception?

Thank you very much
A) "systems" in Switzerland over the centuries became fairly efficient and reliable, in order to overcome complicated structures and a problematic topography. Nobody here is a "super-reliable & super efficient " person as such.
1) punctuality in Switzerland at business meetings is the same as in comparable countries like Austria, Germany, Netherlands and Scandinavia. It is not an instinct, but rather a pressure out of the "system". The punctuality in the Romandie and in Ticino may be on a lower rate, but is clearly above what is average in Southern France and in Italy
2) people in Switzerland keep promises as other people around the globe. I suppose that Switzerland in this discipline is in the top 20%
3) again, just as elsewhere, people will try to phone back between 10.00 and 10.15, unless they either forget it or are hindered from doing so (by people, or by circumstance)
4) of course NOT. Possibly more than many others, but not more than Germans or Dutch (for example)

What is wrong about your questions ? Simple, The obvious idea that Switzerland is sooooooo very special. Just to give you an idea. Swiss people on visit to Belgium buy sizeable quantities of Belgian chocolate. Because their produce is different, but in the same league as Swiss chocolate. But in Switzerland you can buy superb chocolate products from Belgium, Britain (after Eight, for ex.), Austria and Italy (Baci di Perugia, for ex.).

Look at transport
> the aircargo-org. at ZRH+GVA was copied from London-Heathrow
> the S-Bahn system was copied from public transport in London and in cities in Germany
> major boulevards like the Bahnhofstrasse in Zürich were copied from Paris

Such things could be continued endlessly
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[QUOTE If people do not follow the rules, the all system goes down (see efficiency of countries with polychromic culture types)
What do you mean by "Polychromic culture types" ?[/QUOTE]

In general:

Monochronic

* Do one thing at a time

* Concentrate on the job.

* Take time commitments (deadlines, schedules) seriously.

* Are low-context and need information.

* Are committed to the job.

* Ad here religiously to plans.

* Are concerned about not disturbing others; follows rules of privacy and consideration.

* Show great respectfor private property; seldom borrow or lend.

* Emphasize promptness.

* Are accustomed to short-term relationships.



Polychronic



* Do many things simultaneously

* Are highly distractible and subject to interruptions.

* Consider time commitments an objective to beachieved if possible.

* Are high-context and already have information.

* Are committed topeople and human relationships.

* Change plans oftenand easily.

* Are more concerned with those who are closely related (family, friends, close business associate) than with privacy.

* Borrow and lend things often and easily.

* Base promptness on the relationship.

* Have strong tendency to build lifetime relationships.

The culture of a country becomes an important determinant of peoples’ behavior as business gets global. Stories rituals, language, traditions etc. of the country impacts the culture of the organization of that country. For instance, cultures differ widely in terms of their concept of time. Besides the obvious implications for punctuality, the difference also lies in how people from different cultures use their time.

Many western cultures (e.g. US, Germany, Switzerland etc) are highly ‘monochronic’ i.e. people from these cultures prefer to deal with one task at a time. Thus, it is normal that a German would plan out every activity in a step-by-step manner. On the other hand, many Latin and Asian countries (e.g. India, Brazil Spain, Arab Countries etc) have a ‘polychronic’ orientation, i.e. it is quite normal for people to deal with more than one activity at the same time, (it would not be unusual for an Italian or Latin American to interrupt a meeting to make a personal call).

more at http://www.citeman.com/3166-monochro...#ixzz2ErG2y4dk
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What do you mean by "Polychromic culture types" ?
Wondered this myself: polychromic = multi-colored =

So I googled it, turns out it is (probably) a misspelling of polychronic. Still a weird concept but not racist weird.
edit: and I see the OP has already clarified that!
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No no no.

See, there's a very big difference between showing up at 0900 on the dot and putting in your 8-1/2 hours, and actually doing 8-1/2 hours of quality work.

The former would be obedient, the latter efficient.
I agree the Ops questions aren't really about efficiency or competency either.

There is a saying I heard a while ago which I quite like. It was a Swiss who told me so don't anyone get upset with me!


"The Swiss get up early but wake up late". lol
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Re: How efficient are Swiss people in everyday life?

Swiss in general has a higher degree of commitment than compared to many other countries, and with that kind of commitment they fulfill most of the points that are listed...
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Swiss in general has a higher degree of commitment than compared to many other countries, and with that kind of commitment they fulfill most of the points that are listed...
Commitment hardly is something by countries, but rather by companies and individuals. I very often see a definite commitment of people in countries which cannot really be described as "efficient".

"points listed" ? Important, in case you are in authority to define "targets" is that you only list points which realistically can be achieved.
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Re: How efficient are Swiss people in everyday life?

In general:

Monochronic

* Do one thing at a time

* Concentrate on the job.

* Take time commitments (deadlines, schedules) seriously.

* Are low-context and need information.

* Are committed to the job.

* Adhere religiously to plans.

* Are concerned about not disturbing others; follows rules of privacy and consideration.

* Show great respect for private property; seldom borrow or lend.

* Emphasize promptness.

* Are accustomed to short-term relationships.



Polychronic



* Do many things simultaneously

* Are highly distracted and subject to interruptions.

* Consider time commitments an objective to be achieved if possible.

* Are high-context and already have information.

* Are committed to people and human relationships.

* Change plans often and easily.

* Are more concerned with those who are closely related (family, friends, close business associate) than with privacy.

* Borrow and lend things often and easily.

* Base promptness on the relationship.

* Have strong tendency to build lifetime relationships.


I just learned something.... I'm polychronic with a couple monochronic characteristics
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if you are late for meeting (say, for important discussion), the other members are losing their time (while are waiting for you).
Even if you are on time, at a meeting generally EVERYONE is wasting their time!

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In general:

Monochronic

* Do one thing at a time

* Concentrate on the job.

* Take time commitments (deadlines, schedules) seriously.

* Are low-context and need information.

* Are committed to the job.

* Ad here religiously to plans.

* Are concerned about not disturbing others; follows rules of privacy and consideration.

* Show great respectfor private property; seldom borrow or lend.

* Emphasize promptness.

* Are accustomed to short-term relationships.



Polychronic



* Do many things simultaneously

* Are highly distractible and subject to interruptions.

* Consider time commitments an objective to beachieved if possible.

* Are high-context and already have information.

* Are committed topeople and human relationships.

* Change plans oftenand easily.

* Are more concerned with those who are closely related (family, friends, close business associate) than with privacy.

* Borrow and lend things often and easily.

* Base promptness on the relationship.

* Have strong tendency to build lifetime relationships.

The culture of a country becomes an important determinant of peoples’ behavior as business gets global. Stories rituals, language, traditions etc. of the country impacts the culture of the organization of that country. For instance, cultures differ widely in terms of their concept of time. Besides the obvious implications for punctuality, the difference also lies in how people from different cultures use their time.

Many western cultures (e.g. US, Germany, Switzerland etc) are highly ‘monochronic’ i.e. people from these cultures prefer to deal with one task at a time. Thus, it is normal that a German would plan out every activity in a step-by-step manner. On the other hand, many Latin and Asian countries (e.g. India, Brazil Spain, Arab Countries etc) have a ‘polychronic’ orientation, i.e. it is quite normal for people to deal with more than one activity at the same time, (it would not be unusual for an Italian or Latin American to interrupt a meeting to make a personal call).

more at http://www.citeman.com/3166-monochro...#ixzz2ErG2y4dk
I find the use of nonsensical corporate buzzwords to be perhaps the singularly most inefficient invention of the latter half of the 20th Century.
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2. If people do not follow the rules, the all system goes down (see efficiency of countries with polychromic culture types)
This is your hypothesis, and it is flawed.

The French are a polychromic culture, yet they're the most productive nation in the world.

http://articles.businessinsider.com/...nce-s-gdp-work
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