Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02.01.2008, 05:11
Oldhand's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zürich
Posts: 4,014
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 6,837 Times in 2,059 Posts
Oldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond repute
Just had me head kicked in

Has anyone else been physically attacked in Switzerland? No one and I mean no one comes to your defense. I remember being on the floor and literally feeling kicks to my head, monetary things are the least of my complaints but being a punch bag is awful.
Hello new Year!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02.01.2008, 05:37
rhythmical remedy's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zürcher
Posts: 513
Groaned at 63 Times in 41 Posts
Thanked 201 Times in 130 Posts
rhythmical remedy has earned some respectrhythmical remedy has earned some respect
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Are you reasonably ok? What happened? Details please
I have never been attacked in Switzerland but I have witnessed some fights and as always they are not nice.

P.S- Worth contacting Police?

Last edited by rhythmical remedy; 02.01.2008 at 05:52.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02.01.2008, 09:33
Dodger's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lörrach/DE
Posts: 644
Groaned at 6 Times in 6 Posts
Thanked 568 Times in 294 Posts
Dodger has an excellent reputationDodger has an excellent reputationDodger has an excellent reputationDodger has an excellent reputation
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Geez, that's terrible! What brought that on?

I hope you're alright, or as alright as can possibly be.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02.01.2008, 09:45
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Quote:
View Post
Has anyone else been physically attacked in Switzerland? No one and I mean no one comes to your defense. I remember being on the floor and literally feeling kicks to my head, monetary things are the least of my complaints but being a punch bag is awful.
Hello new Year!
So sorry to hear about your unpleasant incident. That's terrible! Appalling!

Were there a lot of people around? It's a poor show that no-one came to your aid. I once slipped really badly at the tram stop at the main train station in Zurich, gashing my knee and tearing my trousers; shopping, handbag and mobile flying in all directions. No-one came to help (just gave me that ZH-stare) until a passing American couple picked me up, dusted me down, put me back together again, and made sure I was okay.

I would say if you've sustained blows to the head you should get yourself checked out at the hospital (if you haven't already), just to be sure.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02.01.2008, 09:56
Bartholemew's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: back in Zurich (but pining for Brussels periodically)
Posts: 894
Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts
Thanked 622 Times in 320 Posts
Bartholemew has a reputation beyond reputeBartholemew has a reputation beyond reputeBartholemew has a reputation beyond reputeBartholemew has a reputation beyond reputeBartholemew has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Oldhand, I'm terribly sorry to hear what happened to you. I would urge you to visit a doctor immediately if you haven't already - if you remember being on the floor and sustaining blows, you need to get checked out just to be on the safe side. Please also report the incident to the police.

Check your PMs.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02.01.2008, 10:52
Rico's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Brig
Posts: 101
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts
Rico has no particular reputation at present
Re: Just had me head kicked in

That's awful! I hope you're OK.

Going with the advice of the other members, Oldhand, yes, get to a doctor and report this to the cops immediately, if you haven't done so already. Some of the wife's fam are polizei, and I know that in Wallis at least, gratuitous violence is more than frowned upon.

Sorry that no one came to your aid. I guess that must be a ZH thing. In VS they're more likely to help (although I've never needed physical intervention before).

Terrible. Be safe.

R
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02.01.2008, 11:25
RolandRB's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: ex Basel
Posts: 569
Groaned at 136 Times in 43 Posts
Thanked 170 Times in 107 Posts
RolandRB is considered knowledgeableRolandRB is considered knowledgeableRolandRB is considered knowledgeable
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Quote:
View Post
Has anyone else been physically attacked in Switzerland? No one and I mean no one comes to your defense. I remember being on the floor and literally feeling kicks to my head, monetary things are the least of my complaints but being a punch bag is awful.
Hello new Year!
I was sorry to hear that. A lot of similar stories seem to be coming out of Zürich. Is there some sort of foreigners-bashing movement there? How did they single you out?
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02.01.2008, 11:50
Oldhand's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Zürich
Posts: 4,014
Groaned at 18 Times in 17 Posts
Thanked 6,837 Times in 2,059 Posts
Oldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond reputeOldhand has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Morning, I'm OK but my pride Isn't. It's my own fault I should have kept my mouth shut! I just can't stand unfairness. I hate skinheads even more now! This could have happened anywhere, last night it just happened to be Dübendorf.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02.01.2008, 11:53
ElJeFe's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Zürich
Posts: 494
Groaned at 22 Times in 20 Posts
Thanked 431 Times in 233 Posts
ElJeFe has an excellent reputationElJeFe has an excellent reputationElJeFe has an excellent reputationElJeFe has an excellent reputation
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Wait a sec. In your profile it says you're a northern lass. So basically bystanders saw a woman get beat up on the street and none came to help?! Something is seriously wrong with society if there are no gentlemen in a crowd to aid a lady in distress. Don't get me wrong, being a male and getting beat up is also bad, but I'm just appalled that it can happen to a lady as well. Hope you get over this negative experience soon. Did it happen near Bellevue at new year? There were youth randomly throwing empty beer and wine bottles into the crowd.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02.01.2008, 11:55
mannie organ's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: rudolfstetten AG
Posts: 716
Groaned at 4 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 418 Times in 227 Posts
mannie organ has a reputation beyond reputemannie organ has a reputation beyond reputemannie organ has a reputation beyond reputemannie organ has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Hi
Glad to hear you are alright. What exactly happened? Did you report it to the Police?

Happy New Year

Annie
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 02.01.2008, 11:57
ElJeFe's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Zürich
Posts: 494
Groaned at 22 Times in 20 Posts
Thanked 431 Times in 233 Posts
ElJeFe has an excellent reputationElJeFe has an excellent reputationElJeFe has an excellent reputationElJeFe has an excellent reputation
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Quote:
View Post
I hate skinheads even more now!
Skinheads are the biggest cowards on the face of the planet. They only attack in groups, and only attack a weaker victim, and then preferably from behind. Skinheads need to have their balls ripped off so they can't pollute the minds of their kids with their racist, bigoted idiotic ideas. They must feel pretty tough beating up a woman together.... pathetic misguided wankers is what they are.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 02.01.2008, 12:31
jbrady's Avatar
RIP
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Sunny Aargau
Posts: 1,044
Groaned at 13 Times in 9 Posts
Thanked 719 Times in 359 Posts
jbrady has a reputation beyond reputejbrady has a reputation beyond reputejbrady has a reputation beyond reputejbrady has a reputation beyond repute
Just had me head kicked in

I also had some problems last year in Brugg with some body building anti Auslander thugs - in a turkish cafe in the Bahnhof. I was told that "there is grave with my name on it" if they saw me in Brugg again. They twisted my arm up my back and punched me a little - but nothing really painful.
One of them spoke english with a "Gangster American" sort of accent - too many films maybe. Then they waited outside for me to leave.
A little Turkish man (the owner) took me through the back door and gave me a lift home. I have avoided the cafe and subway ever since - which is quite hard as I must get my train every day from Brugg.
For the first 6 months I was looking round corners - it was horrible.
There is a lot to be said about travelling in small groups I suppose - but at 47 years old, I had always thought I would get left alone. I lived in Kreis 4 for 6 years with no real problems.
My next door neighbour is a policeman and he helped me fill in a small report - but the problem is that nothing really physical happened.
With one person, I would have no problem trying to retaliate, but with a small group, all you can do is hope and try not to provoke them further.
As with the other posts - I would suggest that you do try and report it - maybe they have a record or are known locally.
Good luck geting over the terrible incident.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 02.01.2008, 12:32
brüder's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Uetikon am See, ZH
Posts: 176
Groaned at 2 Times in 1 Post
Thanked 145 Times in 63 Posts
brüder is considered knowledgeablebrüder is considered knowledgeablebrüder is considered knowledgeable
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Very sorry to hear that. Sounds like you were trying to stick up for someone else when this happened? I agree that they are cowards. Isn't there some kind of law in Switzerland that you have to help someone in situations like this, and not stand by and do nothing? Were there a lot of other people around watching? I would imagine they were very afraid of intervening, but did anyone call the police, or help you afterwards?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 02.01.2008, 14:42
rhythmical remedy's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Zürcher
Posts: 513
Groaned at 63 Times in 41 Posts
Thanked 201 Times in 130 Posts
rhythmical remedy has earned some respectrhythmical remedy has earned some respect
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Damn you are female as well

Quote:

I was sorry to hear that. A lot of similar stories seem to be coming out of Zürich. Is there some sort of foreigners-bashing movement there? How did they single you out?
Actually most of the actual physical fights I have witnessed in Zurich were "foreigner on foreigner" or "foreigner on Swiss"

I did cross pass paths with few Swiss racist skinhead but I legged it. It's not worth fighting a group of them. Sad thing is that most of the times I forget that I am not white One wrong kick to the head could turn you into a vegetable. Lot of people carry knives these days as well

Last edited by rhythmical remedy; 02.01.2008 at 15:45.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 02.01.2008, 14:59
Serafettin's Avatar
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Basel
Posts: 7
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Serafettin has no particular reputation at present
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Omigosh, Are you OK? How perfectly awful. I was just reading another post of yours yesterday and trying to figure out how to thank you for it. I thought that what you wrote about culture shock was so helpful. I hope you will go and get checked out by a doctor and report the attack to the police. But mainly I wish you complete healing from this horrible violence. Best wishes
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02.01.2008, 15:06
Uncle Max's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Züri
Posts: 7,553
Groaned at 164 Times in 105 Posts
Thanked 8,424 Times in 3,486 Posts
Uncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond reputeUncle Max has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Quote:
View Post
Morning, I'm OK but my pride Isn't. It's my own fault I should have kept my mouth shut! I just can't stand unfairness. I hate skinheads even more now! This could have happened anywhere, last night it just happened to be Dübendorf.
No, Oldhand, it's not your fault that a gang attacked you. I'm sorry to learn this news and hope your confidence isn't too shaken.

This would make some interesting local news; have you considered reporting it to the local media? This story will soon disappear if it's only the Police you speak to, so call the local rag and give them some sensationalist copy. Maybe others with similar experiences will come forward and action taken.

Chin up

Ps, would you recognise them?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02.01.2008, 15:23
BoyD's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 316
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 22 Times in 18 Posts
BoyD has made some interesting contributions
Re: Just had me head kicked in

This kinda thing is waaay out of order.

In such instances a visit to the town and a good kicking being given to the skinheads in question doesn't seem to be overly harsh to me.

Hope you are ok too.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02.01.2008, 15:55
Bookworm's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: near Muri AG
Posts: 181
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 139 Times in 79 Posts
Bookworm has earned some respectBookworm has earned some respect
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Quote:
View Post
Has anyone else been physically attacked in Switzerland? No one and I mean no one comes to your defense. I remember being on the floor and literally feeling kicks to my head, monetary things are the least of my complaints but being a punch bag is awful.
I'm very sorry to hear about this! I hope you are okay.

All the best to you.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02.01.2008, 16:18
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Zurich
Posts: 4,926
Groaned at 184 Times in 120 Posts
Thanked 8,552 Times in 2,870 Posts
Kittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond reputeKittster has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Quote:
View Post
Has anyone else been physically attacked in Switzerland? No one and I mean no one comes to your defense. I remember being on the floor and literally feeling kicks to my head, monetary things are the least of my complaints but being a punch bag is awful.
Hello new Year!
No way! Oh my God, hope you feel ok.

To be honest though, I can see how that happens. I went to this AWFUL club, Platins, and have never been to such an aggressive place (and I have been clubbing in the NE of England). This guy and his mates were picking on this girl and her friends but there were less girls. I tapped the guy on the shoulder and told him to calm down, only to end up having a crowd of teenagers baying at me, thankfully security appeared.

I doubt anyone would have helped me either, everyone was drunk and clearly there is a fear of people turning against you. With the noise in most clubs, nobody hears you shouting for help.

At the lake there was also a tremendous amount of aggression, bottles flying and people running up at each other. There should be an alcohol limit, that's definitely what does it.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02.01.2008, 16:34
sharon's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kilchberg
Posts: 424
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 96 Times in 68 Posts
sharon has made some interesting contributions
Re: Just had me head kicked in

Thats awful - I hope you are OK!! What happened? How can skinheads just jump on a lone woman - how pathetic are they??

Sx
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
attack




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
I just quit and my B Permit expires. Do I get kicked out? vanessa-g Permits/visas/government 84 30.08.2012 10:30
Petrol Head Thread Polorise General off-topic 13 28.12.2007 16:52
A woman just hit me in the head! pamopam Complaints corner 40 14.11.2007 17:22
Horses head in the bed Guest Swiss politics/news 6 20.10.2007 13:19
Getting HELP - kicked out of our sublet apartment - rights? markowl Housing in general 5 25.08.2007 17:28


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 17:41.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0