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Old 03.01.2008, 21:19
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My husband and I just moved here over a month ago and are really missing home and the familiarity of life in South Africa.

Does it get better? Any tips to stay positive? We are just finding it hard as everything is so different and all our family and friends are in SA???

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Re: Sad in Zurich

Hey Tanya - this is my second stint away from home in Australia. The last one was 3 yrs in Seattle. It does get a little easier - but just don't expect it to happen straight away. In Seattle I found that one day I hadn't bitched about anything not being as good in Australia, and from there it just sort of all came together. For me, it's been important to keep seeing all these new 'challenges' as opportunities to learn something about a different part of the world. It can be horrible & frustrating, but you eventually get the hang of things. And if it all gets too much, between Co-op and Denner I'm sure you can find a couple of decent bottles of South African wine ........
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Re: Sad in Zurich

It can be a huge culture shock moving here from another part of Europe never mind another continent. On top of that you have also left the middle of Summer & jumped straight into a foggy, miserable winter which is enough to depress the locals, if you can get above the cloud & fog to see some blue sky that never fails to brighten the mood. It will take time to adjust to life here so far you are normal .
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Re: Sad in Zurich

Hey Tanya, it will get better. I suggest going to the mountains to see the sun and some blue skies. I go every weekend and it keeps me positive. Even if you don't ski, there are sled runs and walking trails. Also, check out the thermal baths in either Baden or Bad Ragaz (my favorite .
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My arrival in Zurich a couple of years ago was far from auspicious - I was alone in a foreign country, had taken an enormous step backwards in my career, and found myself in somewhat uncomfortable personal circumstances. I had to find something to cheer me up - and fast!

I don't know if any of these things would help, but they perked me up whenever I was feeling a bit miserable:
  • A long, slow walk from Stadelhofen station to the Hauptbahnhof, going through Bellevue, up towards the art gallery, left into the old town (towards the Grossmunster), down towards the Niederdorf, through Central, across the bridge, and into the station. Sushi at Globus am Bellevue; a browse through the second hand bookshops; a coupe denmark at the Mohr Chopf; and a Malay-Chinese meal at Chopsticks are all optional, but improve the walk no end!
  • A big coupe denmark at the Sprungli cafe on the Bahnhofstrasse. With their own hot-chocolate sauce, you can quite happily shuffle off yer mortal coil afterwards with a big smile on your face. Who needs the High Veld when you can have runny chocolate and ice cream heaven on a plate?
  • A trip to the top of Rigi. You can get the train all the way, jump out, scamper around in the snow, pop back to the cafe for a sausage and hot chocolate, then go home. Take sunglasses!
  • A boat trip on the lake. They are even running round trips through the winter, though not so many as in the summer. Jump on at Burkliplatz, get a 1st class ticket (or an upgrade if you already have a Regenbogen or 9 Uhr Pass), sit upstairs and enjoy the two hour cruise to Rapperswil, where you can eat Italian food, scoff yet more ice cream and buy a hammock at the excellent Scout store there. There's also a nice castle, if you like that kind of thing. And a Polish museum! It's all excitement in Rappi!
  • Go to Wadenswil, hop on the local bus that goes to Horgen via Schonenberg, and enjoy a tour of Tellytubbyland. Marvel at the bizarre green (or white, depending on the season) landscape that looks like a child's drawing, each little breast-like hill topped off with a lonesome tree. Try not to giggle too loudly - the driver might get upset.
  • Go down to Rapperswil again, and walk across the footbridge to Pfaffikon SZ, stopping for a lakeside drink on Hurden island. Not one for a cold, windy day, though.
  • Go to the zoo! It's lovely and warm in the Masoala hall, and the monkey house is always entertaining!
  • Get the lift up from the Lipp Brasserie on Uraniastrasse to the Jules Verne bar at sunset. It's magic, if you can get a seat.
  • Sit in any of the cafes or bars in the Hauptbahnhof and watch the people go by. There are a lot of very, erm, interesting people in Zurich... (quite a few of them post on this forum...)
  • Wander down Langstrasse and enjoy a bit of Zurich that doesn't feel like toytown. One of my friends from England said it was the only bit of Zurich in which he ever felt comfortable.
I'll add some more when I think of them, but these should start you off. I don't know how many of these are suitable for a family - I did most of them on my own before I got to know anyone in the city (and still do treat myself to a Saturday afternoon of solitude now and then), but I should imagine that most of them would be suitable for a small group...

Hope that's some help to you. And remember - you are certainly not alone in being miserable. It would be a bit weird if you weren't, to be honest. It'll pass, but in its own time, and one day you'll look at your life here and suddenly realise that it's alright, really. You might have to wait until the summer, though...
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Re: Sad in Zurich

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Does it get better? Any tips to stay positive?
Simple advise: Hit the mountains. You will fall in love with this country and never want to leave again. Did it for me
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I've just realised that it looks like I'm answering the question of 'cheap trips in the Zurich area', rather than addressing the issue of your unhappiness, but there is a reason for that list: When I was unhappy, I needed to remind myself why I was here, why it was different to the place I had left behind, and why I should stay here and not go home again. Wandering around, enjoying the best (and cheapest) the area had to offer was a good way of reminding myself that this was an experience which should be savoured rather than endured.

After all, this is Zurich, not Tirana or Baghdad. It's a lovely place, and worth giving up 'home comforts' for the sheer pleasure of being here.

Are you here permanently, or on a fixed-term contract? If you're only here for a couple of years, think of it as a long, long holiday, and try to pack as much unique Swissiness into that time as you can. Do all the things you could never do in SA. Go to the Fastnacht parade in Luzern, go up the mountains regularly, watch the wrestling and rock throwing and all the other stuff that you'd never get the chance to do anywhere else. Then, when you go home again, you'll have thousands of photos and videos to bore your family and neighbours with!

If you're here permanently, just accept that it takes time to adjust: still do all the things listed above - because they're worth doing - but remember that you can't swap cultures overnight. But the change will happen. Probably!
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Re: Sad in Zurich

Hi Tanya, I'm surprised that no one mentioned coming to an EF event. Most, but not all, tend to revolve around drinking, but keep looking at the calendar and when you see something that looks interesting -- don't miss it! And certainly don't worry about coming alone, I think almost everyone does.
And if you don't see anything that suits you on the calendar, don't be shy to post your own event. Anything you'd like to do, post it and see who else would like to come along. Meeting a few like-minded people that might even turn into friends will make it much easier being away from home.
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Re: Sad in Zurich

Hey Tanya,

South Africa must be beautiful and i would really love to visit or stay there some time in my life. i'm a malaysian and i left home quite early for my studies. Belfast first, followed by Bath in England. They were always wet and cold, nothing like what i'm used to! And then i spent some time in Beijing (gorgeous cultural stuff but awful awful pollution and crowds). I guess I'm not the sort who misses home because I'm used to moving. My final recent move was to Zurich (end 2006) and it wasn't easy with all the administrative problems and the language differences! but i'm now hooked to the mountains, liking german, and am blown away by the scenery on my way to work every day. my recent trip to the netherlands for the xmas hols made me realise how much i liked zurich and switzerland. (no offense to any dutch out there!) now i'm wondering how i will ever move away from here, it will be a tough decision! i'm now starting snowboarding, moving to lausanne to experience the french-side, and enjoying good swiss chocolate every day. it's really quite a nice country and it might just grow on you over time! Hope you'll meet lots of people and start feeling at home soon
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Re: Sad in Zurich

Hiya Tanya, this is such a hard time of the year to be away from home and every negative seems magnified. Are you working? Would you fancy joining me next Wednesday morning for a beginners course in belly dancing? I could check out if there are free places. I've never done it before but I thought "why not"?

It's a time thing, getting your bearings etc. If you'd like to meet for a coffee I'd have a very understanding ear but I can also be a good laugh. PM me if you want to meet up, maybe a bit of company could help, I could certainly do with some.

There are S.A clubs have you tried any? Swannee in the Oliver Twist is South African I'm sure if you popped in there he'd give you some tips. Try not to leave it too long to try something, the more miserable you feel the less energy you'll have.

A big warm understanding hug
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Home sick..? Don't worry, that'll pass with time. Heck, it only took me about 7 years and a divorce before I finally got settled in..
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Re: Sad in Zurich

I cannot help remember what the HR Manager told me in my "welcome interview:

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That was the exact moment when i asked myself for the first what had i done with my life, but anyway that is a different story....

However, this gentleman was right about one point: time.... It just takes time before you settle in and start to find your way in a new place. I know only too well how stressing and overwhelming it is to change countries, but just give it enough time until things start to fall into its place.

Would not recommend you to stay home - there are a lot of us who went through the same ordeals (and survived it). The me, it helped me a lot to find other people that have gone through the same situation. Another thing that helped me a lot what to do the touristy things (like the ones Dougal mentions). It is completely different perspective of the country and their people.

Best of luck and hope this have helped

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Re: Sad in Zurich

It definitely takes awhile. It took me at least 7 months and now after almost a year I am feeling settled. First you have culture shock and once you get over the hump it's smooth sailing. Think of all the wonderful things that you can see while you are here. When I was having my pity party days and no one was invited I would say I could be living in a much worse place than this. It is normal to miss your family and friends and grocery items and stores that you love to frequent. Hope all goes well. We have all been there before.
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Re: Sad in Zurich

Tanya,

I don't want to seem negative, but you will always pine for Africa. If you either lived in, brought up in or were born in Africa it's in your blood, under your skin and in your heart.

There is nothing you can do about that.

Moving on is a simple thing, but as you know it's what you leave behind that's hard. You will go through a process of only remembering the good things, the braais, your chinas, the sunshine, the beach, the bush , the rooibos and the biltong.

What you won't remember is the stress you felt living there, having to look over your should everywhere you go, the bad news in the papers, the rape, the murder, the robbery and the general disregard for human life.

I don't know why you are here. Are you here to stay forever or are you here on a contract?

If you are here on a contract then get busy with Switzerland, it has a lot to offer.

If you are here to stay then let it sink in, give it time. You can always plan a trip or two back to SA every year to visit the life you left behind.

My bet is that sooner rather than later you will breathe a sigh of relief every time you land back in Zurich. I am sure that you will settle in and see the benefits of having moved.

After a year you will have experienced proper seasons. Wait for summer, it's beautiful here. Enjoy the winter, as everyone recommends, go skiing, go walking, sailing, buy a GA or a car and travel the length and breadth of Switzerland. If you think SA is beautiful, this place has beauty would not have imagined.

As for friends, there are a lot of people here who are very open and friendly. Even the Swiss.

I see a few invitations have been extended to you here, take them up.
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Hi Tanya

Are you from Durban?

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Nope Cape Town...
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Tanya, begin counting the days: Wednesday night drinks at the Talaker
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Re: Sad in Zurich

I usually get busy with something constructive when I am feeling "down" Maybe a good idea is to start a German language course, a few Swiss cooking lessons or something you enjoy. It can be fun learning a new language, it will only benefit you. Maybe also take the dogs for a long walk. Summer will definitely bring a new begining. It's so beautiful. Don't give up now. Think about what our lives are like in SA and what you have now been exposed to. THE POINT OF POWER IS IN THE PRESENT MOMENT. Vasbyt, you will be OK soon. Love to hubby and the doggies.
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Sorry -wondered if you were my SA friend from Londons cousin who is moving to Zurich

Its a small world sometimes

I hope you manage to settle in - I have been here a year and a half - took me about half of that time to settle in - now we plan to stay - of course there are still times when I feel homesick and miss old friends and the nights spent chatting with them in the bars.... See now I feel homesick too
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Re: Sad in Zurich

Howdy.... Tanya we are not far neighbors Im from Madagascar. Well i can tell you that i know how it feel. Not easy initialy but Lets put it this way... its a long vacation in a unique one time opportunity. Im new myself in Switz couple of months old.... ill be joining hopefully early this year in some of the forum events and meeting a lot of you and we hope you join us as well Tanya?

The only way out of getting bored and feel homesick is going out and meeting people.

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