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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

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SUCCESS!
The interlocking sheet metal slug fences I bought from Landi have worked beautifully. I even baited them with a cup of beer and melon rinds inside the barrier... not one made it over. I have now planted salad, tomatoes, and squash from seedlings, and no slug or snail has eaten so much as a single leaf. It's worked so well I put up another one. This solution took a long time to find, but I can highly recommend it.
Do you have a Landi part number or name?

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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

Old School solution before chemicals... A ring of salt should do the trick
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Old 01.06.2014, 11:01
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Old <School solution before chemicals... A ring of salt should do the trick
Which wrecks your soil and kills your plants
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

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Use coop oecoplan pellets (they contain iron phosphate). They're not toxic (except for to the slugs, obviously).
One of my vets wrote checked with the Toxicologist at Uni ZH - and here's a paraphrased version of the reply he sent me:

'I talked to the Toxicologist at the University and she said that the iron phosphate pellets can be used in the garden of a dog owner.

Gastrointestinal Problems (Vomiting and Diarrhea) can occure when more than five grams per Kilogram bodyweight have been swallowed by a dog. This means, that toxicity is very low and it is only dangerous when a whole pack or more is eaten. The substance does NOT interact with hemoblobine!'

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Reassuring news.

But being a somewhat OTT owner of one dog who grazes more enthusiastically than most cows and another with chronic gastrointestinal problems, I'm still uncomfortable with the risk for my guys.

So I seek other solutions for areas where the grazer and tummy-troubled mutts hang out.

YMMV.
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

..and washes away in the rain, as do pellets. That was the whole point, to find a permanent solution.
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

2 months later, did someone find a permanent solution? I saw many of them in our new garden...
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Old 30.08.2014, 00:26
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2 months later, did someone find a permanent solution? I saw many of them in our new garden...
Yes, I found a permanant solution: I bought a "Scheckenzaune" (Slug fence) from Landi. Sheet metal barriers with a sharp lip that they cannot crawl over. Has worked perfectly this whole season. I planted rows of salad and not one has made it in, even during this very wet Summer. Easy to put together, cost about 100CHFs for a 1m x 3m rectangle.

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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

Aaargh! SLUGS! They're everywhere...

It's driving me nuts, like a ship's wheel sticking out of a captain's pants. It's hard to sleep at night knowing they're devastating my little plants and seedlings.

Karl's slug fence would be great, but at that price i'd be out a few thousand chuffs to encircle all my raised beds.

So i've bit the bullet and bought slug nematodes from Andermatt Biogarten. They're expensive - more than double what they cost in the UK, but i haven't found a UK supplier that will ship to CH (it's a live product, heat sensitive, etc.)..

They were applied a few days ago, and hopefully i'll see some results soon. 40 million nematodes (supposedly) applied to 170m2...

In the meantime, I've decided to pull out all the stops this year to keep the slug population down (with the exception of ducks or a captive hedgehog - which i've considered but they are not allowed in the Schrebergarten…)

I go at night with a flashlight and diluted ammonia solution and spray it directly on the little bastards - kills them instantly and gives the plants a nitrogen-rich foliar feed.

I'll be leaving plants and strips of bark in the paths and as a mulch wherever possible, flipping them over in the morning and spraying the slugs (they like to hide from the sun there). Watermelon rinds would be better, but i won't have any for a while, especially if the slugs eat all my baby melon plants.

Next up are the beer traps - made from empty pet bottles with holes cut in the sides, and buried halfway in the soil. It's just a pity to give the slugs my beer - seems like alcohol abuse...

I'll also try cornmeal, in an empty jar on it's side to keep the rain off. Supposedly they love it, and then it swells in their stomachs and kills them.

Coffee is an old wive's tale - they just eat the grounds. waste of time.

diatomaceous earth sounds good - but is expensive here in CH and my area is too big.

The bio slug pellets are spread around liberally, and maybe they help, but definitely didn't keep the slugs down last year.

Comfrey works as a sort of trap crop - last nite i found more than 20 slugs on just one plant.

The little plastic slug barriers are a joke - the commando slugs in my garden would just engineer bridges right over them, like the Romans crossing the Rhein…

Copper strips might help, but i'd need a whole lot of copper and i've read that it needs to be kept clean and shiny for good effectiveness.

watering the whole garden with an ammonia solution would be a help - but it costs an arm and a leg in CH for some reason, so that won't be happening…

any other ideas? barring a moat filled with sharks with laser beams?

off to check the traps, and mourn for the loss of my baby corn plants...
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Old 28.04.2015, 13:20
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

Garlic is a good deterrent. They don't like the smell of garlic for some reason.
I suppose alliums may also gave the same effect as they are the same family.
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any other ideas? barring a moat filled with sharks with laser beams?
Apparently they don't like sand. I had a layer of grit in my cold frame but I've changed that to sand and hope it works as they ate all the seedlings.

What dilution of ammonia do you use in your spray and where do you get the ammonia? Thanks!

Shouldn't this be in the gardening forum?
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

Hmm. I might go for a slug fence at that price. Just one as a trial. At least I could start off sunflowers and transplant them as they get more hardy.
I do have a hedgehog or two, but they don't eat all species of slug, or maybe there are just too many round my place.

Must say I had most success putting slugs on a footpath and stamping on them, then all the others are attracted to the smell, and when they start eating the dead one, stamp stamp again.
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

After several years of gardening I have given up on large-scale slug warfare. My veg patch consists of a relatively small area for salad that is protected by the metal slug fence (which really works). For the rest, I plant things that the slugs don't have much interest in: herbs, zucchini, pickle-cucumber, grapes, raspberries and hot peppers. Everything is on a raised bed which in itself discourages them. Maybe a sprinkling of slug pellets now and again.

It just isn't worth the effort. You will always be outnumbered 10,000 to 1, no matter how many you exterminate, they just come back again.
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

I've decided to order the fence. I found it on imgarten.de for 4.60 euros/meter… just waiting on a shipping quote.

My garden measures 13 x 13.5 m, rectangular. 55m of fence, allowing for a few cm overlap, plus 4 corner pieces, will work out to much less cost than repeat applications of nematodes at Swiss prices. (cost about CHF 150.- to treat our whole garden. They last for 6-8 weeks)

So i'm hoping that the nematodes will rain death on the existing population while i simultaneously erect a physical barrier around the periphery to keep out the future slugs. I might even electrify it, lol...

Handpicking/spraying isn't time effective, when they just keep coming and devouring everything, anyway.

The garden's a wash if i can only harvest onions, chives, and emmentaler-like kale and chard, after loads of work

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What dilution of ammonia do you use in your spray and where do you get the ammonia? Thanks!
4:1 water:ammonia, more or less. With a few drops of bio dish soap per liter. If it's not strong enough the big ones can just slough off the slime coat and head underground.

In desperation last year, I had a relative bring some from the US when they visited. US prices - about $3 a gallon. CH prices are unthinkable. Don't know about the neighbor countries...

Vinegar supposedly works, too - but is also a mild herbicide.
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4:1 water:ammonia, more or less. With a few drops of bio dish soap per liter. If it's not strong enough the big ones can just slough off the slime coat and head underground.

. CH prices are unthinkable. Don't know about the neighbor countries...

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Ammonia is pretty cheap and readily available in France. I have no idea about Germany or Italy as I never shop there.

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Vinegar supposedly works, too - but is also a mild herbicide.
Neat vinegar is a really effective herbicide which is excellent for killing grass/weeds growing through the cracks in paving. Never tried it as a slug repellent.
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

The only thing I grow, is plucking leaf salad ...... in an old bathtub, sat on a couple of blocks of wood.
I can't recall slugs or snails ever getting up and in.
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

I put out a dish of catfood for them, also damp bread... When they're all there eating, I gather them up, put them into a green, kitchen compost bin with air holes drilled into the top. Then I take them for a nice long walk and set them free once I feel I'm far enough away from home that they won't come back..😄😇😄
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

Nematodes work like a dream - apply now and then again about eight weeks later. I get them online from Andermatt Biogarten - www.biogarten.ch (Bioslug Schneckennematoden).
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

We had alot of bother with slugs getting to our strawberries and I have to say that I never really had much success, sorry to say. I tried copper strips round the raised beds and the beer bath but the slugs always seemed to get to the strawberries first (unless you were quick). Never tried pellets as there were dogs nearby and I didn't want to risk them eating any. Best of luck and hope you have more success than I did!
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Re: How do deal with slugs in the garden?

[QUOTE=pilatus1;2381715]Aaargh! SLUGS! They're everywhere...

So i've bit the bullet and bought slug nematodes from Andermatt Biogarten. They're expensive - more than double what they cost in the UK, but i haven't found a UK supplier that will ship to CH (it's a live product, heat sensitive, etc.)..

They were applied a few days ago, and hopefully i'll see some results soon. 40 million nematodes (supposedly) applied to 170m2...

Sorry - didn't see you had already recommended these (didn't read thread thoroughly)
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