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Pardon me? I had Internet back in 1982, and that even out in the sticks of Heidiland.
Sure about that? In Denmark internet was not easy to get before the early nineties......i.e. 10 years later than Heidiland.
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1989 = no internet, no private radio or TV here ... only, in the 1990ies you had Videotex
Private radio stations officially started in 1983, not counting semi-legal Radio 24 which began transmitting from Pizzo Groppera in 1979 using the most powerful FM transmitter on the planet. (link in German, sorry)

I had e-mail and dial-up internet in 1989...
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Private radio stations officially started in 1983, not counting semi-legal Radio 24 which began transmitting from Pizzo Groppera in 1979 using the most powerful FM transmitter on the planet. (link in German, sorry)

I had e-mail and dial-up internet in 1989...
I listened to Radio 24 when it became obtainable, but private radio stations generally were rare. And in the 90ies worked with Videotex. We only got Internet-access in 1999. For three persons, even in September 01 we only had Internet-access on one of our computers.
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Pardon me? I had Internet back in 1982, and that even out in the sticks of Heidiland.
In the 90ies, in the Zürich area, most people used Videotex as the most modern tool
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Re: Zurich 25 to 40 years ago back then thread..

Swiss radio wasn't as crap back in the 1990s and the US Armed Forces Network (AFN) was easy to receive on medium wave broadcasting from Heidelberg.

Everything was even more relatively expensive here back then than it is today, but Aldi and Co. weren't around to entice us over the border, just Spar and small local stores in Germany.

No double decker trains, Swissair still ruled the airways and Dübendorf airfield was active with Hunters, F-5s and Mirages. And no one complained.

The freeways were almost empty and you could still drive across Zürich without knowing that you'd hit long lines of congestion.
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Re: Zurich 25 to 40 years ago back then thread..

was there a period in the 1980's in Zurich when heroin was openly on sale and there was a big drug scene near the bahnhof?
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was there a period in the 1980's in Zurich when heroin was openly on sale and there was a big drug scene near the bahnhof?
Not as blatantly open as you may think, but hanging around the Landesmuseum and Platzspitz wasn't really part of a tourist's itinerary of Zürich. Between about 1988 and 1992, the police basically avoided the area and drug users gathered literally in their thousands. There are estimates of up to 3000 people in the park, several users died. Rather than being self-regulating, the drug toleration only led to more users and dealers and so in February 1992, the authorities moved in. Although the scene shifted, it just dispersed, initially to Letten station and beyond.
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Swiss radio wasn't as crap back in the 1990s and the US Armed Forces Network (AFN) was easy to receive on medium wave broadcasting from Heidelberg.

Everything was even more relatively expensive here back then than it is today, but Aldi and Co. weren't around to entice us over the border, just Spar and small local stores in Germany.

No double decker trains, Swissair still ruled the airways and Dübendorf airfield was active with Hunters, F-5s and Mirages. And no one complained.

The freeways were almost empty and you could still drive across Zürich without knowing that you'd hit long lines of congestion.
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How much were you earning in the UK when you came? £100 was probably nearly a month after tax earnings.
No,no. The rates of pay in London in 1959 were very poor. I think I had about £9 per week. Half of what I took home I had to give to my mum. Getting £100 together was no easy deal. So I asked the Head of Department how I could earn some extra money - he suggested I could wash all the walls of all the floor's offices at the weekends. That's what I did and as soon as I had the $100 plus Train fare I went off into my new life.
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Pardon me? I had Internet back in 1982, and that even out in the sticks of Heidiland.
I am impressed.

I believe certain people probably did have Internet then, not many, think it depended on who you were, what you were doing- who you worked for.

It was shortly around that, time company I worked for in London their telex department went computerised & the first time I used a computer for typing letters etc.

The first time I saw email was around 90 or 91, can not remember what it was called, something like mobile email. The first emails were slow & attachments were a nightmare to download. I had a way of catching emails with attachments to put to one side to download the others first.

Incidentally the first fax machine I used was enormous, the size of a large filing cabinet & SLOW for transmission. It was great once the first small fax machines came on the market, especially with small hotels as so easy to confirm a booking with them that way same day.
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Swiss radio wasn't as crap back in the 1990s and the US Armed Forces Network (AFN) was easy to receive on medium wave broadcasting from Heidelberg.

Everything was even more relatively expensive here back then than it is today, but Aldi and Co. weren't around to entice us over the border, just Spar and small local stores in Germany.

No double decker trains, Swissair still ruled the airways and Dübendorf airfield was active with Hunters, F-5s and Mirages. And no one complained.

The freeways were almost empty and you could still drive across Zürich without knowing that you'd hit long lines of congestion.
AFN was really interesting, but SRG-Radio was crap for decades. We as teenagers in the 1960ies listened to "Salut-les-copains" which was a good program from Paris, broadcasting modern music.

Yes, visiting Dübendorf with all the fighters there was entertaining. The DM, still at CHF 1.20, made shopping in Germany non-interesting.

To drive on the new highway from Zürich to Geneva only needed three hours, and not 3 and a half. And to get accross Zürich could be done within half an hour
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I thought Wolli was our grandad?
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Nope...he is the great granddad
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Nope...he is the great granddad
Suppose you have no idea. Until age 8, I enjoyed to talk with our neighbour, Mr Th....., who was born in 1859 and passed away in 1958 . He was too young for military service in 1970/71 (German French War), too old in WW-I and far too old in WW-II. But he could tell you about local history back into the 1860ies

Grandmum in Schaffhausen, born in 1882 was a source of info and inspiration as was my uncle in Geneva born as late as 1903 .

We in school for a week had a temporary teacher, who was born in about 1880, so then in his mid-80ies, who was interesting indeed. Amazing was that the old gent with interesting memories and lots of humour pushed through an amazing lot of teaching. The man was authoritative and challenging but in a tremendous way.

Mr Th.... mentioned above had a caretaker-lady, Miss Schw...., with who we were in touch until she finally passed away in about 1998 at age 93

And then there was uncle Jules in Hyères-Toulon with whom I went to the nearest bistro when he as 98. I met him again when he was 99. At 100 he felt old and stopped hacking wood. At 101 he stopped writing letters and only made phone-calls. And at age 102 (1999) he told a relative in Basel that things were over for him .... and passed away a month later
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Suppose you have no idea. Until age 8, I enjoyed to talk with our neighbour, Mr Th....., who was born in 1859 and passed away in 1958 . He was too young for military service in 1970/71 (German French War), too old in WW-I and far too old in WW-II. But he could tell you about local history back into the 1860ies
Errrr, I suppose you mean 1870/71? Didn't know Swiss soldiers fought in that war. On whose side?

Must have been incredibly interesting to talk to him, though.
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Re: Zurich 25 to 40 years ago back then thread..

Big difference in prices:

1980:

- Petrol 1.12/1.14 Francs per litre
- Heating oil: Annual bill for our oil was maximum 1000 Francs.Nowadays, well over 2000 Francs.
- Paid 150.00 Francs for private health insurance. No Franchise. Am currently paying 350 Francs for general insurance plus Franchise.
- Used 100 Francs for housekeeping money. Nowadays need 170 Francs for 2 people.

Unfortunately salaries haven't kept pace with the increase in prices.

Demise of the restuarants/Tea rooms. Seems a lot of the restaurants/tea rooms have gone out of business. Example there used to be 5 restaurants and 1 tea room in the village where I live. Nowadays there is just 1 restaurant no tea room.

Less people going to church.

People don't seem so friendly somehow.
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I was first here in 1973 as a tourist in a VW Kombi bus-hippies you know. They siezed our bus and would not let us go until we got better tires for it. My friend wanted to punch the police-I'm glad he refrained.
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This tread for all those who are here over 20 years plus and not from Switzerland. Please share your experiences , your stories no matter which part of the world you came from and how you got here and how was it like back then,? what changed and what not, how was the ease of work without such long processes , how was it to come and live back then ? Any memories and incidents are welcome from the " Back in time " days.
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I got here in 1987. The Zurich main station was much smaller than it is today, mainly just the top level, and a small level below. It was filled with dark, smokey restaurants and bars filled with drunks. I remember just outside there were sleazy bars and xxx theatres, like Langstrasse today. It was not a nice place to hang out in those days.
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Brrrrrrrrrr.........sounds scary
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I got here in 1987. The Zurich main station was much smaller than it is today, mainly just the top level, and a small level below. It was filled with dark, smokey restaurants and bars filled with drunks. I remember just outside there were sleazy bars and xxx theatres, like Langstrasse today. It was not a nice place to hang out in those days.
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Errrr, I suppose you mean 1870/71? Didn't know Swiss soldiers fought in that war. On whose side?

Must have been incredibly interesting to talk to him, though.
of course YES, 1870/71 . There was, just as in WW-I and WW-II a Mobilizsation, the one in 1870 under the command of General Herzog, the one of WW-I under the command of General Ulrich Wille (look at the road from Bahnhof Enge towards the lake) and the one of WW-II under the command of General Henri Guisan (look at the road from General-Ulrich-Wille-Strasse to Bürkliplatz. The Dufour-Strasse in Zch-Seefeld is named after the victorious CIC of the union troops in the CH-internal war of 1848/49, Henri Dufour.

General Herzog became renowned as he with a minimal force put up a big show, or rather a bluff, giving the French General Bourbaki the impression of a much larger army (the troops were frequently re-decorated), so that the large army of General Bourbaki surrendered to General Herzog

While General Dufour in 1848 could rely on the various already existing Cantonal armies he just had to combine, in 1870, Switzerland had practically no army around so that General Herzog had to establish his "army" from scratch.

Corps-Commander Ulrich Wille a while before WW-I organized a real army on the basis of his education in the Prussian Army ( he was a 50% Prussian himself) .
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