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Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

It seems there are many others also planning on leaving at some stage for various reasons. My reasons for leaving and returning to Australia are stated here: Why i'm leaving Switzerland

While I admit there are some good things about Switzerland (eg specactular scenery, snow, mountains, excellent public transport, no bogans/drunks), I have decided that Australia still offers a better lifestyle overall. Australia was also recently rated as the happiest country to live, three years in a row http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22685260 beating Switzerland which came 5th. I find life to be much easier in Australia, and also much better job opportunities (as other languages aren't required).

Looking through the forums, I noticed there are some long time users such as Nil, AdrianLondon etc that were saying they had planned to leave a few years ago. However, they are still here today? If you are one of these people, why did you end up staying? Did you change your mind and get more used to living here or what?

So how many of you are planning to leave Switzerland at some point? What are your reasons for leaving and where do you plan to move to?

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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

Haven't you gone yet?
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Not now you're going.
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I'm packing as we speak.
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Why are you leaving and where are you moving to?
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Why are you leaving and where are you moving to?
I was slightly exaggerating but I am looking to leave. I am brushing up on my Mandarin and going to Singapore.

I just don't like some thigs here and I don't think that Switzerland has much of a future because the banking secrecy laws will not last much longer, and they haven't developed other sectors of their industry as much as they could have. They were too busy keeping the taxes low. This strategy will also not help them as the EU is also cracking down on this.

The EU will not let Switzerland go down but there is going to be a rather big discontinuity occurring.

These are my opinions, by the way, but since I am paid to look at economic trends, it's more than just a two bit opinion.

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Looking through the forums, I noticed there are some long time users such as Nil, AdrianLondon etc that were saying they had planned to leave a few years ago. However, they are still here today? If you are one of these people, why did you end up staying? Did you change your mind and get more used to living here or what?

So how many of you are planning to leave Switzerland at some point? What are your reasons for leaving and where do you plan to move to?
I think you'll find she actually left for sunnier climes quite a while ago.

We're not planning on leaving any time soon.
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

I must admit that this weather has helped me make up my mind!
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

I've stayed in Melbourne & Gold Coast for few years before coming to Switzerland. Had a good there but would prefer Switzerland for staying for long term.

Australia has its own things to offer and Switzerland its own. There are list of things which I love here. Before I moved permanently to Switzerland, I stayed here for a month which helped me make up my mind.
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

AussieSwiss WTF man ???

Here I am trying to convince the forum that not all Aussies are whinging pussies unable to integrate and content with running away from challenges such as learning a new language or putting up with smokers, and you keep on with your grade a martyrdom....

A lot of us are happy here and once more happiness relative...

As you very well know it is a great experience to live in Europe and be able to visit all the places that we learned about in history class. In Oz most people generally resign to the fact that they will get round to traveling Europe once they have retired. You yourself know that you will be letting a great opportunity go by after you leave. You will have failed because you couldn't put your own issues aside and accept thing just for what they are.

You see you simply can't change the thinking process of another culture and for me that was a challenge but also one I'm happy to stand down from. Also that 'other way of thinking' is what makes our marriage such a good team...

AussieSwiss, make yourself a hot cup of concrete and harden the f*** up !!!
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AussieSwiss WTF man ???

Here I am trying to convince the forum that not all Aussies are whinging pussies unable to integrate and content with running away from challenges such as learning a new language or putting up with smokers, and you keep on with your grade a martyrdom....

A lot of us are happy here and once more happiness relative...

As you very well know it is a great experience to live in Europe and be able to visit all the places that we learned about in history class. In Oz most people generally resign to the fact that they will get round to traveling Europe once they have retired. You yourself know that you will be letting a great opportunity go by after you leave. You will have failed because you couldn't put your own issues aside and accept thing just for what they are.

You see you simply can't change the thinking process of another culture and for me that was a challenge but also one I'm happy to stand down from. Also that 'other way of thinking' is what makes our marriage such a good team...

AussieSwiss, make yourself a hot cup of concrete and harden the f*** up !!!
Chrisso wonderful post and you beat me to it. I thought aussies were meant to be known as resilient, able to cope with change and up to a challenge! These are the principles on which Australia was based. The english sent what it thought were criminals to some god foresaken land not knowing many convicts purposely got sent to escape a god forsaken land.

The aussie spirit then turned Australia into one of the most sought after and wealthy countries on earth.

Amongst the swiss aussies have a reputation as hard working and willing to take on a challenge, nothing is too hard type approach to life.

Aussieswiss has failed where others have succeeded.

Maybe oneday yes we will also go back but not because we gave up and blamed the system
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

Today would have been a good day to go to Italy. Sunshine, warmth, espresso, gelatti .....
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I must admit that this weather has helped me make up my mind!
This would be the only reason for me to leave. unfortunately since my health has gone downhill since i got here, i am starting to seriously consider it. hopefully the summer will bring some much needed soothing.
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

I am hoping that we never have to leave, however it all depends on whether we can afford to stay when hubby retires.
We will be staying if at all possible though.
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

what, and waste all that language learning?

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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

We are likely to leave by the end of the year. Job transfer for the missus the reason. California the destination.

We`ve enjoyed living here. This weathers doing my head in though.

AussieSwiss it`s not another language here that`s required to get a job, it`s the local language.

Speaking only German or French or anything other than English you would have even less chance of getting a job in Oz than you have here. Sure, you may have been lead to believe otherwise, and finding a job in any country can be super frustrating but you have to keep it in perspective.

Maybe England would have been a better choice for you? Same language, less smoking, still close to Europe.
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

I recently left after 5 years in Ch (plan was for 1 year,,,,)
Now living in the USA and happy about it, climate , quality of life in regards to spending power, and imo the economy is finally getting better here vs going downhill in Europe.....(my opinion and where I live is where all the moviestars retire so I don't see a decline anytime soon really)

Glad I made the move, miss CH a little but it wasnt our country
ps the USA is not my homecountry either

Brian where you going in California?
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I recently left after 5 years in Ch (plan was for 1 year,,,,)
Hrm.

My plan was to give it a try for 5 years - going by your experience, should I readjust to think it may be 5x as long (25 years )



So, as I said, I'd planned to be here for about 5 years, see how things go here, and how things go in the US, before bringing hubby there. Things haven't improved so much as I'd like there for immigrants, AND things are looking to require us to stay here a while (his mother's health), so... we'll see.

Definitely not within the next year or two, and possibly not for 5 or more years. Hopefully we're not still here in 25 though.


On the other hand, my "itchy feet" are starting to drive me a bit crazy. Moving every 3'ish years as a youngster, and moving every 5'ish as an adult (even if only to move house in the same area) has left me feeling quite anxious to be in the same apartment for nearly 5 years now.
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Re: Do you plan on ever leaving Switzerland?

Ef folk can be so hard on each other. Staying in Switzerland, or choosing to leave, is not a "Pass" or "Fail" situation. There are all sorts of reasons to stay and just as many to move away. The same can be said about any move, anywhere, including within one's home country.

Decisions are based on work, family, social, sporting, travel, language, education, health, hobbies or other factors. Does it really matter to others?

Life moves on. Some people stay. Some go on to another country, some back to a previous one. Good luck to everyone, is my thought on the subject.

And lets be kind to each other.
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AussieSwiss WTF man ???

Here I am trying to convince the forum that not all Aussies are whinging pussies unable to integrate and content with running away from challenges such as learning a new language or putting up with smokers, and you keep on with your grade a martyrdom....

A lot of us are happy here and once more happiness relative...

As you very well know it is a great experience to live in Europe and be able to visit all the places that we learned about in history class. In Oz most people generally resign to the fact that they will get round to traveling Europe once they have retired. You yourself know that you will be letting a great opportunity go by after you leave. You will have failed because you couldn't put your own issues aside and accept thing just for what they are.

You see you simply can't change the thinking process of another culture and for me that was a challenge but also one I'm happy to stand down from. Also that 'other way of thinking' is what makes our marriage such a good team...

AussieSwiss, make yourself a hot cup of concrete and harden the f*** up !!!
You seem to be missing the point. How can I afford to stay here without a job??? As you know, it is extremely difficult to get work here when you cannot speak the local languages. Sure, I could keep learning German, but it would be at least another year or two (at 800 CHF a month) before i'm fluent enough for a job. Switzerland is also the most expensive country in the world which makes it even worse if you're unemployed.

One has to go where there is work to survive. How is this giving up? I could be here unemployed for another few years before I find another job. I cannot afford to take that risk, even if I did want to stay.
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