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Old 23.03.2016, 18:29
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I wonder why they choose trains, I assume as relatively quick, painless and has a decent knock on effect to say f you cruel world and the bar stewards that inhabit it.

A far more thrilling exit would be flying down a slope on skis and just cannon off the edge of the cliff. Lot less mess too and a bit of a thrill before lights out.


I would submit that a depressed person wanting to commit suicide would not be capable of the organisation and effort required to get to a ski area, find skis, etc etc.... The train, like a bridge over a highway is a relatively "safe" bet, and very accessible, therefore requiring a lot less effort - if you suffer from a disease that makes it hard to find the motivation to brush your teeth once a day, you aren't likely to contemplate, or get through, organising a ski trip.
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Old 23.03.2016, 18:51
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I would submit that a depressed person wanting to commit suicide would not be capable of the organisation and effort required to get to a ski area, find skis, etc etc.... The train, like a bridge over a highway is a relatively "safe" bet, and very accessible, therefore requiring a lot less effort - if you suffer from a disease that makes it hard to find the motivation to brush your teeth once a day, you aren't likely to contemplate, or get through, organising a ski trip.
My best friend organized himself enough to climb up a huge mountain and flew himself off it. I think it depends. Train might be immediate but the people who are in it, passengers and staff, will end up associated and affected. I think it depends on a case, reasons, severity of the mental disorder, etc.

Some people are just tired of how little sense life makes to them.
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I would submit that a depressed person wanting to commit suicide would not be capable of the organisation and effort required to get to a ski area, find skis, etc etc.... The train, like a bridge over a highway is a relatively "safe" bet, and very accessible, therefore requiring a lot less effort - if you suffer from a disease that makes it hard to find the motivation to brush your teeth once a day, you aren't likely to contemplate, or get through, organising a ski trip.
Agreed.

I've also seen it go another way, though it's the only example like this I know. The brother of a long-time friend of mine has suffered from severe depression and bipolar disease since he was a child. First suicide attempt was at 14, sleeping pills, they found him in time. Since then, he's been in and out of psychiatric clinics and has attempted suicide a few times. He started doing drugs at some point, bought a gun somehow somewhere and once, when on heroin, he grabbed the gun. For some reason, something clicked in his brain, and in a moment of clarity he called his sister (my friend) at 3am. She usually turns off her cell during the night, but for some reason, had left it on that night (true story). She picked up, he said he needed her help, he was about to shoot himself. Neither had a car and he lived about an hour away, so for lack of quick alternative, she just spoke to him for hours until the first train left in the morning. She went to pick him up, took him to doctor who sent him to yet another psychiatric clinic immediately.

That was about 7 or 8 years ago. He's still alive and to our best of knowledge hasn't tried to commit suicide since, though we're not quite sure. He's not able to lead a normal life, is under constant psychiatric supervision (though not always in a clinic), has not been able to complete an apprenticeship let alone anything else and is on social welfare. To be honest, I've seen this person suffer for 20 years and I sometimes wonder whether it wouldn't be easier for him to just 'go', you know...
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To be honest, I've seen this person suffer for 20 years and I sometimes wonder whether it wouldn't be easier for him to just 'go', you know...


Few people who haven't suffered from clinical depression grasp just how much suffering the disease causes, both to the sufferer, but also to the people surrounding.


Different from a broken leg, or cancer, a depression stays with you forever, there is no "cure" in the sense of some point at which the original injury has mended and there is no statistical chance of a relapse. You may "get happy" again, you may learn to live with a depression, but it is there afterwards (and even that can be depressing).
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Re: Train suicide

The tricky thing with depression is also the fact nobody knows the actual degree of it but the sufferer. And it is I can imagine sometimes too hard to verbalise it. As was the case of my buddy.

I also know cases of people being (or seemingly) absolutely functioning and with a smile and then snap and kill themselves, an acute psychosis caused by chemical imbalance (if I remember well, it was legit steroids). Meds are super dodgy for some. The doses sometimes do not correspond to the needs, don't get metabolized, etc. They would have been better off with an inefficient treatment of their ailments, like some benign herbal remedy.

Anyways. I think there isn't anyone on the trains who isn't thinking and maybe going through some gratitude checks when they announce the cause of the train delays..etc.
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