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Train suicide

Another train suicide this afternoon. Between Basel and Olten.

This evening my thoughts are with the family and the driver of the train.

Interesting, SBB was quite open about it being a suicide not an "individual accident" and explained that this was force majeure. Those of us who would miss connections to the TGV must buy another ticket for the next day - no refunds.
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Old 30.08.2013, 21:55
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Re: Train suicide

It is strange for this time of the year though when the weather is great and so much to live for. Autumn depression would be more understood in this case but in any event I'm not protagonist of oneself inflicted choice between life and death. Tragic event affecting those who involuntarily witnessed it and family of the deceased person, never mind how machinist must have felt on the job. Another senseless loss of life RIP...
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Re: Train suicide

Is there a place where these train suicides are tracked? I feel like there are a very large number of these happening in Switzerland. Is it moreso happening here than in other countries? Very sad.
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Re: Train suicide

They are deliberatley kept quiet to prevent possible further attempts by other likeminded people.
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Is there a place where these train suicides are tracked?
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Old 31.08.2013, 22:37
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Re: Train suicide

Seems to happen often in CH. in the last 3 years I know 2 that happened in Dornach and 4 in or around SBB Basel
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Re: Train suicide

This end of the lines, it's Accident de Personne. Happens often, sadly. Mostly in station, but not always. It's not linked to seasons apart maybe from the end of the year, and not solitude either. Remember these people were suffering more than you can imagine, before you curse them for making you late to work.
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A question that occurred to me as well! Dark humour - laugh in the face of death and tragedy.

In the UK 3.5% of suicides are by jumping in front of a train. That's about 220 per year, with a country that has a slightly higher suicide rate, and a population 8x that of Switzerland. On that basis, there will be a couple a month here.
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Re: Train suicide

In Switzerland the first cause of death in young people is suicide...

Something to think about.
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In Switzerland the first cause of death in young people is suicide...

Something to think about.
Although according to this, traffic accidents pips suicide to the post (36% due to traffic accidents vs 32% to suicide). I notice that it separates "overdose" from those stats but I assume that is accidental death due to drug use.

I have to say, I'm not surprised that traffic plays the larger part given the driving standards but, still, 32% for suicide is a pretty high proportion of overall deaths.

All the more upsetting at the moment considering a friend's husband has just taken his own life (not in Switzerland, though).
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Interesting, SBB was quite open about it being a suicide not an "individual accident" and explained that this was force majeure.
The SBB has been lately under harsh criticism for a series of technical failures and frequent delays, I assume they want to make clear that this time it's not their fault.
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Intentional pun, or...?
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Is there a place where these train suicides are tracked? I feel like there are a very large number of these happening in Switzerland. Is it moreso happening here than in other countries? Very sad.
When I was a commuter in Japan is happened with a tiring regularity. At least once a week someone would jump onto the tracks and bring Tokyo's commuter rail system to a halt. Most inconsiderate considering how the Japanese generally avoid inconveniencing others.
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Re: Train suicide

Interesting that this falls under Force Majeure - one would expect that under the conditions of carriage they would be responsible for an applicable refund or replacement of the ticket fare.
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The SBB has been lately under harsh criticism for a series of technical failures and frequent delays, I assume they want to make clear that this time it's not their fault.
It's not even been a month since I was on a train from Zürich to Visp and had to swap the train to bus service between a few stations to catch my train.
The official statement from SBB was nothing else but a "Personenunfall", which, everyone knows is for someone who jumped in front of a train.

It is unfortunately a very common way to commit suicide in this country. But I don't understand how anyone could leave their body behind with such a mess, annoy so many people (you should've seen the travelers swearing and waving their fists at whoever was responsible for all the delays), and leave people behind with such an execution in mind...

Thoughts are with the family of course...
it's just horrible...
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In the UK 3.5% of suicides are by jumping in front of a train.
Yes, but how many of those were late huh ?
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Re: Train suicide

I don't know how survivable a train suicide is, so I'd assume all the poor souls were late. The trains being late is a given.
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Re: Train suicide

I wonder why they choose trains, I assume as relatively quick, painless and has a decent knock on effect to say f you cruel world and the bar stewards that inhabit it.

A far more thrilling exit would be flying down a slope on skis and just cannon off the edge of the cliff. Lot less mess too and a bit of a thrill before lights out.
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