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Re: Daily Life for Muslims in Switzerland

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Actually, circumcision does reduce the infection rate of HIV.

I wanted to stay out of this thread about religion and dicks, but out of interest (and completely impartial), I thought you should know.

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Re: Daily Life for Muslims in Switzerland

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I read the german version of the same article; apparently the authorities in Yverdon argued about hygiene for not letting the girl wear a fully covered swimsuit
Seems likely that Romands share the firm French distaste for any swimming costume more voluminous than a bikini.

French swimming pools normally also ban men's swimming trunks / shorts.
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and they should do the same here
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Seems likely that Romands share the firm French distaste for any swimming costume more voluminous than a bikini.

French swimming pools normally also ban men's swimming trunks / shorts.
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Old 18.12.2013, 17:26
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Seems likely that Romands share the firm French distaste for any swimming costume more voluminous than a bikini.

French swimming pools normally also ban men's swimming trunks / shorts.
I think I've been to some indoor swimming pools in Germany that didn't allow men's "shorts" type swimming trunks, they only allowed the bikini/Speedo/plum-smuggler type. Altho they let me go with my trunks that day with just a warning. They pointed out that the "shorts" type drip more water around the pool area and make it slippy which increases rink of injuries, which kind of made sense, I guess. Altho I never went back to that pool again.
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I think I've been to some indoor swimming pools in Germany that didn't allow men's "shorts" type swimming trunks, they only allowed the bikini/Speedo/plum-smuggler type. Altho they let me go with my trunks that day with just a warning. They pointed out that the "shorts" type drip more water around the pool area and make it slippy which increases rink of injuries, which kind of made sense, I guess. Altho I never went back to that pool again.
The main reason the French give is hygiene. Shorts or other baggy clothing may have been worn all day and collected all sorts of dirt.

(Of course they completely overlook the fact that there's nothing to stop you wearing your speedos all day under your trousers... )
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The main reason the French give is hygiene. Shorts or other baggy clothing may have been worn all day and collected all sorts of dirt.

(Of course they completely overlook the fact that there's nothing to stop you wearing your speedos all day under your trousers... )
The public pools in this region also ban long baggy shorts for swimming in.
I asked why? The reason is the guys use them as normal shorts and then go swimming in them as well - accumulated dirt in cloth/pockets/etc. Not to mention - in my imagination - dirty bums.
Short cotton type shorts are allowed - just not those knee length (day-wear) baggies.

Knee length swimming baggies are for surfing. They are not a style garment. Surfers use them to prevent their legs chafing on the board when sitting dangling their shark bait in the sea while waiting for the perfect wave.
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Re: Daily Life for Muslims in Switzerland

Another thought on that little Muslim girl.

Why do the parents use their children as political fodder?

Children are conformists, especially at school. Why make her stand out in the crowd? She must be SO embarassed now.

Trying to fit in, in a new foreign culture, and then to be singled out, all because her parents (obviously make her wear some ridiculous outfit to swim in.
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Plus these shorts have alot of cotton and other fibres which come loose in the water
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The public pools in this region also ban long baggy shorts for swimming in.
I asked why? The reason is the guys use them as normal shorts and then go swimming in them as well - accumulated dirt in cloth/pockets/etc. Not to mention - in my imagination - dirty bums.
Short cotton type shorts are allowed - just not those knee length (day-wear) baggies.

Knee length swimming baggies are for surfing. They are not a style garment. Surfers use them to prevent their legs chafing on the board when sitting dangling their shark bait in the sea while waiting for the perfect wave.
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Old 18.12.2013, 18:01
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Re: Daily Life for Muslims in Switzerland

In the USA if you wear anything resembling a speedo your a homo
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The public pools in this region also ban long baggy shorts for swimming in.
I asked why? The reason is the guys use them as normal shorts and then go swimming in them as well - accumulated dirt in cloth/pockets/etc. Not to mention - in my imagination - dirty bums.
Short cotton type shorts are allowed - just not those knee length (day-wear) baggies.

Knee length swimming baggies are for surfing. They are not a style garment. Surfers use them to prevent their legs chafing on the board when sitting dangling their shark bait in the sea while waiting for the perfect wave.
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Old 18.12.2013, 18:28
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In the USA if you wear anything resembling a speedo your a homo
I wanted to mumble something about the French. But I won't.
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In the USA if you wear anything resembling a speedo your a homo
Ironic, considering you have the worlds campest avatar.
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In the USA if you wear anything resembling a speedo your a homo
Yes, the little speedo has had its day - now they`re just worn by professional swimmers?

The shorts (old fashioned length, about midway between crutch/knee but not that long ) with built in "mesh undie" in quick dry fabric seems about the most appropriate these days?

Speedos embarass women as the eye is drawn ................. .... and one has to not laugh out loud or smile knowingly ......

PS. Bodybuilders definitely should NOT wear a speedo!
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Old 19.12.2013, 12:16
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Re: Daily Life for Muslims in Switzerland

Interesting how virtually every thread somehow winds and twists to the topic of Muslims. Yet a thread that starts about Muslims twists to the topic of swimsuits.
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Old 19.12.2013, 13:08
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Yes, the little speedo has had its day - now they`re just worn by professional swimmers?

The shorts (old fashioned length, about midway between crutch/knee but not that long ) with built in "mesh undie" in quick dry fabric seems about the most appropriate these days?

Speedos embarass women as the eye is drawn ................. .... and one has to not laugh out loud or smile knowingly ......

PS. Bodybuilders definitely should NOT wear a speedo!
First off, it's a pair of speedos, not a singular. Secondly, Speedo is just one brand of swimming trunks, and by definition they're all similar - if they could be described as shorts then they should be decribed as shorts, not trunks. And lastly, if you, or anyone, is embarrassed by seeing the shape of a man's bits then I think you should grow up a bit
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First off, it's a pair of speedos, not a singular. Secondly, Speedo is just one brand of swimming trunks, and by definition they're all similar - if they could be described as shorts then they should be decribed as shorts, not trunks. And lastly, if you, or anyone, is embarrassed by seeing the shape of a man's bits then I think you should grow up a bit
Speedo has become a sort-of generic name for the tight lycro mens swim gear. Do they have another more correct name? They are not shorts. Shorts have loose leg holes. And swim shorts have a built in underpants to prevent it all hanging out.

I can`t grow up any more than I am And I am not embarassed by the sight of mens bits shapes being paraded around - I rather see their embarassed expressions when younger women giggle and turn away rather than stare.
Although some do stare, out of sheer wonderment/amazement/horror/curiosity/or whatever it is that makes them stare.

So, I guess some guys enjoy that? And others go find a more "masculine" and less revealing swim trunks.

But don`t worry about it - its not serious - wear whatever makes YOU comfortable. Although I would still refer to a Speedo as "a" speedo, and not a pair of speedos, even though they have two leg holes, like pants which are a pair of pants.

Imagine asking "Where`s my pair of bikinis?" instead of "Where`s my bikini?" A bikini has 2 parts, and the pants have 2 leg holes, but its still one garment. Sort-of.
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Speedo has become a sort-of generic name for the tight lycro mens swim gear.
Yes, but that's not going to stop me trying to 'correct' it And it's mainly just a US thing, and certainly if used in the singular.
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Do they have another more correct name?
Trunks, like I said.
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I can`t grow up any more than I am And I am not embarassed by the sight of mens bits shapes being paraded around - I rather see their embarassed expressions when younger women giggle and turn away rather than stare.
Well that was what I meant by 'anyone'. Are most men really so insecure about their tackle?
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If you use the pool to do laps for fitness and swim in the laned-off section, it is unusual to see men swimming in surfer-type shorts. Most, if not all, swim in Speedo-type costumes. Nobody gives them a second glance, no sniggers, no nudging and pointing.

Swimming a couple of kilometres in surfer shorts would definitely be hard work.
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Re: Daily Life for Muslims in Switzerland

There has been a large discussion about this. Many suggested that the reasoning of the studies associating circumcision with low HIV rates is flawed. Their counter-argument is that the correlation (low HIV rate <--> circumcision) is only true because of social/ethical norms. For example, circumcised Muslims are less prone to having sex outside marriage (therefore lower infection rates).

Sorry, I don't have time to find links, I will try to edit the post later.

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World Health Organization studies show that circumcision reduces HIV infection risk. It's one weapon among a large collection of other measures to fight HIV in Africa and other regions of the world.
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There has been a large discussion about this. Many suggested that the reasoning of the studies associating circumcision with low HIV rates is flawed. Their counter-argument is that the correlation (low HIV rate <--> circumcision) is only true because of social/ethical norms. For example, circumcised Muslims are less prone to having sex outside marriage (therefore lower infection rates).

Sorry, I don't have time to find links, I will try to edit the post later.
Please do.

Until then, I'm sticking with the research scientists from the WHO and the CDU.

N.B. Your example won't be judged solely on content, but the reliability of the source.

"Many" people tend to be full of shit.


FYI - The link that I provided earlier doesn't dispute your claim. Results do vary, but 'conclusively' the overall effect of circumcision has a positive effect in reducing transmission instances of HIV.

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