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Our new neighbour is stalking us..

Believe it or not we haven't even lived in our new apartment 1 week.

I've heard lots about difficult neighbours etc in Switzerland but for the first 3 years of living here we have been blessed with lovely neighbours.......until we moved!

We moved to a neighbouring village and new apartment block. Larger for our growing family. It was a really heart wrenching decision as we loved where we were living before but with a second baby on the way seriously needed more space. So last Sunday we moved....on day 4 of living here we received our first ever complaint about noise! Now the complaint was very specific. She claimed we were banging doors between 12 - 1 (quiet time) and she was trying to nap. Ok far enough I thought perhaps ever been moving boxes or our baby has been banging toys a bit loud. We agreed to monitor it and I kept things down at this time. However the next day she complained to us again saying that we were banging and slamming doors at 3 am! Now I know I was asleep and so was my baby and everyone else. When she complain the second time alarm bells began to ring!!!

So my stress levels started to rise as I felt this situation can become nasty. She threatened to write to the agency. That she has been taking notes on our movements in the apartment. Wtf! I'm being stalked now.

Despite this I have being going about my business albeit quietly. Then another neighbour approached us this morning to warn us that the neighbour in question has complained about everyone in the block (of 6 ) and that she has become extremely stressed as they have had the authorities in measuring sound! This other neighbour warned me it could get messy as she is now considering legal action herself for harassment! Tomorrow we would have lived here a week. I feel awful and so miserable about leaving our old place. On top of this I've never experienced this here abd don't know where we stand? My oh typically Swiss tells me not to get stressed but I'm not liking the fact this woman writes down everytime i leave the house or when my baby cries or when I walk the dog!! What can I do?

Apologies for the long rant. Need to make the situation clear.
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Contact the agency, they must be aware she has "issues" and tell them you WILL NOT accept any noise complaints from her.

Take charge and be proactive.
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Re: Our new neighbour is stalking us..

Look at it this way: she could just as easily be documenting all this stuff without informing you. Then you'd have no idea there was even an issue, until someday out of the blue you receive a "someone has complained" note from the agency. This way at least you know to expect problems, and you know from what quarter to expect them.

It's still an unpleasant situation to live under, but if you convince yourself that it could be worse, it may help you cope with it a little more easily...


Unfortunately I doubt there is much you can do about her documenting everything. Nobody in authority will ever forbid her to keep a journal of dates and times, since if she did have a legitimate complaint it would be absolutely the correct thing to do.

As for her actual complaints, my advice would be to familiarize yourself with house rules and Quartier/Gemeinde rules (especially in regard to quiet hours, these may be different), start observing these scrupulously if you are not already - and then refer back to them every single time she approaches you with a complaint. "Excuse me, but the house rules and the town rules both say that quiet time is from 12-1, and I only started the dishwasher at 1:13." Refuse to discuss further.
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Re: Our new neighbour is stalking us..

Agreed ignorance would probably be bliss at this point however I do feel she is attributing sounds/bangs in the apartment block to us when it is not us. I'm sat here with no tv on or music and I can hear the neighbours tv and banging for example. This doesn't bother me but I assume she is super sensitive.

I'm being proactive I have set up a recording from 10 to 7 to record our house noise. We are contacting the agency now on Monday to confirm our paperwork and mention or concerns regarding this neighbour.

I have read the rules. Quiet times stipulate no excessive noise I.e music and tv viewing from 10 to 7 and 12 to 1. Ok so I got that rule. Showering, washing etc limited to outside these times which I'm used to with our old place.

So all in all I think I'm doing my bit. Also agreed I need to not let it get to me but part of me just feels that this is an invasion of my own privacy. Grrr. Maybe it's the Brit in me and my castle isn't mine etc.
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Don't you think calling your neighbor a stalker is a tad bit of an overstatement? Is she following you to the local Coop as well?
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Re: Our new neighbour is stalking us..

Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic

I'm just not used to this type of neighbour. She does watch me from her front door anytime I leave the house and when I'm on the balcony. For example baby feel over on balcony she came out looked at me and wrote down down notes. Is this considered normal? For me...um no.

I know it sounds weird what I'm saying but now that I've got other neighbours coming to me about her actions I know I'm not imagining it lol.
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I have read the rules. Quiet times stipulate no excessive noise I.e music and tv viewing from 10 to 7 and 12 to 1. Ok so I got that rule. Showering, washing etc limited to outside these times which I'm used to with our old place.
Just to be clear, if anyone tells you that you are not allowed to shower after 10pm they are wrong...Whatever the rules may say you will find enough information on this forum to show you that such a rule will not stand up in a court of law.

If your neighbour is being like this now already I would make sure that you either have a Mieterverband membership or a legal insurance that covers you for "Nachbarrecht"....

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Urgh! :what: I already do not like the sound of that. I'm guessing this is not related to normal house insurances?
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Urgh! :what: I already do not like the sound of that. I'm guessing this is not related to normal house insurances?
It's really not that much extra of a cost, I think 70 or 100 a year, and so worth it.
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Believe it or not we haven't even lived in our new apartment 1 week.

I've heard lots about difficult neighbours etc in Switzerland but for the first 3 years of living here we have been blessed with lovely neighbours.......until we moved!
Really sorry to hear about this. You need to be proactive here and write the property manager a registered letter describing what has happened. If this neighbour should complain to the property management, you may get a warning letter so it is best to have your side on file first.

Just how much can you hear from the other apartments? I have been told that property managers prefer families to live in ground floor apartments. If you have tenants below you, invest in some carpets. They will help reduce noise. Curtains help as well.

Try not to worry. If you are not breaking any rules nothing will happen.
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Just to be clear, if anyone tells you that you are not allowed to shower after 10pm they are wrong...Whatever the rules may say you will find enough information on this forum to show you that such a rule will not stand up in a court of law.

If your neighbour is being like this now already I would make sure that you either have a Mieterverband membership or a legal insurance that covers you for "Nachbarrecht"....

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Ok thanks. I'll look into that.

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Really sorry to hear about this. You need to be proactive here and write the property manager a registered letter describing what has happened. If this neighbour should complain to the property management, you may get a warning letter so it is best to have your side on file first.

Just how much can you hear from the other apartments? I have been told that property managers prefer families to live in ground floor apartments. If you have tenants below you, invest in some carpets. They will help reduce noise. Curtains help as well. I personally can't hear a lot from the neighbours next to us and nothing from below. I hear the tv sometimes and the neighbours kids coming in and out but it's a really well insulated building. We can't hear talking like in our previous place..

Try not to worry. If you are not breaking any rules nothing will happen.
Do you think an email will be sufficient? This is how must if our correspondence has been done?

Also ironically we have the biggest apartment in the block and its at the top over two floors. The smaller apartments are below us.

We have carpets and curtains too. Baby is in the roof and is above us so isn't above the neighbour in question. And I'm pretty sure the dogs are not raving at 3 am. We even bought them socks to stop any tapping while they walk!
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Also ironically we have the biggest apartment in the block and its at the top over two floors. The smaller apartments are below us.
I think, therein, may lie the main problem darkhorsdrea! The other problems, ie, those concerning the living conditions that so many have to endure in CH having already been discussed ad nauseum on here. Good luck anyway.
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Believe it or not we haven't even lived in our new apartment 1 week.

I've heard lots about difficult neighbours etc in Switzerland but for the first 3 years of living here we have been blessed with lovely neighbours.......until we moved!

We moved to a neighbouring village and new apartment block. Larger for our growing family. It was a really heart wrenching decision as we loved where we were living before but with a second baby on the way seriously needed more space. So last Sunday we moved....on day 4 of living here we received our first ever complaint about noise! Now the complaint was very specific. She claimed we were banging doors between 12 - 1 (quiet time) and she was trying to nap. Ok far enough I thought perhaps ever been moving boxes or our baby has been banging toys a bit loud. We agreed to monitor it and I kept things down at this time. However the next day she complained to us again saying that we were banging and slamming doors at 3 am! Now I know I was asleep and so was my baby and everyone else. When she complain the second time alarm bells began to ring!!!

So my stress levels started to rise as I felt this situation can become nasty. She threatened to write to the agency. That she has been taking notes on our movements in the apartment. Wtf! I'm being stalked now.

Despite this I have being going about my business albeit quietly. Then another neighbour approached us this morning to warn us that the neighbour in question has complained about everyone in the block (of 6 ) and that she has become extremely stressed as they have had the authorities in measuring sound! This other neighbour warned me it could get messy as she is now considering legal action herself for harassment! Tomorrow we would have lived here a week. I feel awful and so miserable about leaving our old place. On top of this I've never experienced this here abd don't know where we stand? My oh typically Swiss tells me not to get stressed but I'm not liking the fact this woman writes down everytime i leave the house or when my baby cries or when I walk the dog!! What can I do?

Apologies for the long rant. Need to make the situation clear.
Your "oh typically ...." is right. There is no reason to feel stressed or to worry. Simply take it easy.

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Agreed ignorance would probably be bliss at this point however I do feel she is attributing sounds/bangs in the apartment block to us when it is not us. I'm sat here with no tv on or music and I can hear the neighbours tv and banging for example. This doesn't bother me but I assume she is super sensitive.

I'm being proactive I have set up a recording from 10 to 7 to record our house noise. We are contacting the agency now on Monday to confirm our paperwork and mention or concerns regarding this neighbour.

I have read the rules. Quiet times stipulate no excessive noise I.e music and tv viewing from 10 to 7 and 12 to 1. Ok so I got that rule. Showering, washing etc limited to outside these times which I'm used to with our old place.

So all in all I think I'm doing my bit. Also agreed I need to not let it get to me but part of me just feels that this is an invasion of my own privacy. Grrr. Maybe it's the Brit in me and my castle isn't mine etc.
I think you apparently react well. It of course is just some complaining but not an "invasion of privacy"

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Perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic

I'm just not used to this type of neighbour. She does watch me from her front door anytime I leave the house and when I'm on the balcony. For example baby feel over on balcony she came out looked at me and wrote down down notes. Is this considered normal? For me...um no.

I know it sounds weird what I'm saying but now that I've got other neighbours coming to me about her actions I know I'm not imagining it lol.
To watch out from the front door what goes on possibly is her prime pastime. Others sit on the window of the kitchen or a living room 14 hours per day. We in the 80ies (and 90ies) had a neighbour on ground floor, a former "Vaticano-Swiss-Guard" who was around and watching whomever entered and left the house between 5 AM and 3 AM the following day, but otherwise as very nice chap. He not only also watched neighbouring houses but also walked around and with his 1.80m stature in spite of age 80 was impresssive. Burglaries in the area within months of his arrival dropped to almost zero He now, at around 90, is in a home for elderly people but apparently still going strong

Back to your neighbour now.
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Then another neighbour approached us this morning to warn us that the neighbour in question has complained about everyone in the block (of 6 ) and that she has become extremely stressed as they have had the authorities in measuring sound! This other neighbour warned me it could get messy as she is now considering legal action herself for harassment!
I would love to know what sound they were measuring. There is an app for phones which measures sound. We tested it to see how loud our cockatoo is.

If the property manager was aware of these previous complaints and noise issues, then letting a family with a baby and another one on the way and pets move in to the building appears irresponsible and unfair to you. You could not have known this information but surely they did.

Finding the right housing situation is not an easy task. If you don't get it right, for whatever reason, sometimes it is best to just move. I know this is not what you want to hear having just moved. I have been in your shoes though it was many years ago. We were the only family with children living in a 6.5 room apartment on the ground floor. It was an amazing apartment in a super location. Really hard to give up.

We made a deal with the property manager to move with virtually no notice and no requirement to find a nachmieter. We found a lovely home and moving again within the span of a year was definitely not what we had planned. Looking back it was the best decision we made. Sure, we could have stayed and battled but the relationship with the neighbours had deteriorated to a point where it could not be mended.
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Do you think an email will be sufficient? This is how must if our correspondence has been done?

Also ironically we have the biggest apartment in the block and its at the top over two floors. The smaller apartments are below us.

We have carpets and curtains too. Baby is in the roof and is above us so isn't above the neighbour in question. And I'm pretty sure the dogs are not raving at 3 am. We even bought them socks to stop any tapping while they walk!
NO, Emails can easily be ignored. Registered letter is the way to go
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but I'm not liking the fact this woman writes down everytime i leave the house or when my baby cries or when I walk the dog!!
Did you move into my neighborhood?

I'm very sorry to hear that you have been saddled with 'one of those' neighbors.

As other posters have suggested, take precautions. Send the agency a registered letter so that your side of the story is on file once the lady makes her complaint. Make sure you know the rules and stick to them so there is no grounds for complaint. Do whatever you can to make friends with the rest of the tenants.

Next comes the hard decision: Move, or learn to ignore her?

This kind of harassment usually does not stop. If you can just shut her out, live your life as you wish, pay no attention safe in the knowledge that you are doing nothing wrong then that is the best solution. But that takes a pretty thick skin; at at time when you have you plate full already, not an easy task.

If you cannot ignore her, be aware this kind of neighbor rarely gives up. The harassment is something that will be hanging over your head, casting a shadow over every aspect of your life, for the time you live there. You are about to have another child - do you want to be dealing with the crazy lady at an already challenging time?

Living with constant harassment is no life. This I know.

It might be wise to start on a 'Plan B' to move should it become necessary. I'd speak to the landlord and as Mrs D suggests try to negotiate a get-out clause so that you do not lose out financially should the neighbor's harassment make it impossible for you to continue living there.

I really feel for you DHD. It angers me that society more or less accepts this kind of harassment as par for the course. No one should be allowed to behave like this, and no one should have to put up with this.

Hope a solution can be found - I wish you all the best.
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oh andrea, I am so sorry to hear that you are going through this.

My first instinct is to fight back but I am pretty sure that the neighbour is going to win when it comes to pettiness. But sometimes, taking a step back, even though you did nothing wrong might smooth things out.

Ever considered dealing with the problem from another angle?

Personally, I would simply bring a cake over one day and say that you got off on the wrong foot. Chat and let her vent. Perhaps she was simply pissed off that you moved on a Sunday - which to many - is sacred and it has been festering. Nod, smile, be super sweet and nice. Its not a sign of weakness or admission.

Say that you will be taking precautions from now on as you want everyone to live harmoniously but be firm in letting her know that you have a child and dog. Noise is part and parcel of living within an apartment building.

Sometimes these people do the things they do is because they have nothing on the whole day but seek out drama. They get quite taken aback and back off when the approach is not what they expect.

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talk to the other neighbours and ask if they've been disturbed - and make reference to the OCD neighbour.

that way you'll find out if she's as nutty as she seems plus you can get feedback from other residents.
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Despite this I have being going about my business albeit quietly. Then another neighbour approached us this morning to warn us that the neighbour in question has complained about everyone in the block (of 6 )

If this woman has complained about everyone, then I think it will be obvious to your landlord and the authorities that it is she that has the problem, and not you.
Please try to ignore this lady and as long as you are obeying all the rules of the building, you will be ok.
Don't let her spoil what should be a happy time for you, she is probably a lonely bitter person who should probably be pitied.
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