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Old 01.11.2013, 12:07
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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

I should add that my son's Krippe yesterday were making mini-pumpkins out of tangerines, banana ghosts and ghost pictures from white-paint hand-prints on black paper.

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I should add that my son's Krippe yesterday were making mini-pumpkins out of tangerines, banana ghosts and ghost pictures from white-paint hand-prints on black paper.

All the staff are 100% Swiss.
Our local 'pub' had a Hallowe'en party last night. As far as I'm aware, there are only three native English speakers resident in our village (and two of them were at home watching DVDs last night).

Hallowe'en is definitely making the jump from 'foreign' to 'Swiss' custom, whether we like it or not.
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Was it this egg throwing about?
Good question. It's certainly not part of my American Halloween upbringing. The main story on the radio this morning is all about the damage caused by egg-throwing Halloween fans, which is sad because egg-throwing has nothing to do with Halloween.

I'm seriously considering asking the police to send those kids to a Halloween course where they learn:

1. how to celebrate Halloween in a respectful manner
2. how to clean windows of dried egg
3. how to write letters of apology
4. how to keep others from throwing eggs and causing Halloween damage.

As in the words of the great Bon Jovi:

"they give Halloween a bad name."
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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

Upon returning home from the Auto Show in Zürich today (where I spent a lot of time wondering if the Aston Martin Vantage, in light green - would fit into my garage space and would have no trouble getting round the tight corner exit in the Migros Car Park) I was able to benefit from the jolly good fun of one of Halloween's such entertaining intellectual practices having been keenly followed by one of its devoted fans at my expense. Some big or small, old or young halloween p***k or halloween p***kess - the dress fashion makes it difficult to know sometimes should they be seen - had allowed itself the joy and no doubt self-titillating pleasure of squashing a raw egg into my letterbox.

Needless to say the postman had also been.

As I had to arm myself with a bowl of hot water, soap and a washing cloth before getting on the job, my attention was immediately drawn to the fact that the bowl I was using was British Racing Green in colour.

Just goes to show that everything has two sides, good and bad, surely a nice eggshell BRG would be more suitable for my Celtic soul than some fancy pastel, undefinable, wish-washy green, I'll have to consider the colour somewhat longer - maybe it's worth waiting another year and hope again for a further sign from the heavens.

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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

I certainly wish some home ancient pagan traditions would stop, like hunting girls down at Easter and hitting them with whips, in public. Eating chocolate bunnies sounds much more interesting. So to judge how foreign and misplaced new traditions are...If kids want to craft nutty costumes and get candy for that, why campaign against it. Who are we to tell them to not desire something fun. The egg part is just hooligans, I've never done it in the US, nor anyone I know there.

Things picked up a little in our area as I said earlier, but it seems it is still celebrated a lot more in German part.
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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

I agree - in our town growing up, egg throwing was mostly done in the streets, as far as I can remever. I also never took part in the antics...

But most of Halloween is fun, who doesn't like to dress up and act silly once a year? of course the stores here will need to improve their offering of bite sized individually wrapped candies/chocolates . Maybe I should call Lindt and suggest they embrace Halloween, too...
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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

no egg throwing around here that i saw or heard about anyway. lot's of little ones in costumes- lovely to see. and they were super excited as after requesting that my hubby buys the candy he bought regular size candy bars and made the kids so happy and the parents didn't seem to mind. i'm not big into sweeties but once a year it's nice to let them just enjoy it.

and all of the kids we had were swiss, or at least non-english speaking as we have no americans that i know of around.

when i was little we didn't do the eggs but we had silly string in cans, which i thought was pretty fun. just clean up with a hose after and your good. maybe if more adults would let the kids let loose just a bit more they wouldn't get so out of control with things. but it was fun and tame here.
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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

In our village, I saw two groups of trick-or-treaters when we left to head to a party on the other side of town.

There were trick-or-treaters there as well.

Only in Ticino will one get a whole pizza (or two) rather than candy at some places.

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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

Halloween is not Pagan or Christian, it is Celtic. The roots of it can be traced back over 2000 years and what the Americans do with it is really not that far removed from some of the ancient traditions practiced in Scotland for millennia.

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True, it was originally a Pagan/Christian festival in Britain, but the US adopted it and removed the important points in order to commercialise it. Witch (see what I did there ) it must be said they did quite successfully, and now their version seems to be the de facto.
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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

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Hallowe'en is definitely making the jump from 'foreign' to 'Swiss' custom, whether we like it or not.
And they where dressed up like this and where singing the protest battle hymn by J.S.Bach
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Halloween is not Pagan or Christian, it is Celtic. The roots of it can be traced back over 2000 years and what the Americans do with it is really not that far removed from some of the ancient traditions practiced in Scotland for millennia.
Aren't Celts pagens?
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Some are some aren't.

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I certainly wish some home ancient pagan traditions would stop, like hunting girls down at Easter and hitting them with whips, in public. Eating chocolate bunnies sounds much more interesting. So to judge how foreign and misplaced new traditions are...If kids want to craft nutty costumes and get candy for that, why campaign against it. Who are we to tell them to not desire something fun. The egg part is just hooligans, I've never done it in the US, nor anyone I know there.

Things picked up a little in our area as I said earlier, but it seems it is still celebrated a lot more in German part.
I agree to the egg part hooligans, but hunting girls ,sounds fun to me
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Some are some aren't.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celts

But in the timframe you mentioned all Celts have been pagans (otherwise they somehow managed to convert themselves to Christianity before Christ was born...). If Halloween has 2000 years of tradition it is without any doubt originally a pagan ritual.

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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

Unless they are christian, muslim, jewish, etc., they are by definition pagan.

Anyway, Switzerland's roots are Celtic, so Halloween should clearly be a national holiday!

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Re: halloween-where to trick or treat

If you were referring to back 2000 years ago then they would be classed as Pagan, but more specifically Druids. Pagan is just a term used for non-Abrahamic religions and belief systems so is a blanket term that can be used for many peoples. Halloween is, or I should say was, a Celtic tradition as it originated in Scotland and was not practiced by Pagans in other countries at that time.

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But in the timframe you mentioned all Celts have been pagans (otherwise they somehow manached to convert themselves to Christianity before Christ was born...). If Halloween has 2000 years of tradition it is without any doubt originally a pagan ritual.
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Halloween is to Switzerland what circumcision is to Saudi Arabia. Wrong act in the wrong country and out of place.
Beside the point that ALL Saudi men get circumcised at age TEN, Halloween to me looks like a mix of the old Schulsylvester and Fasnacht, with a bit of Rääbeliechtli-Umzug included
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One way to discourage trick or treaters: http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.co.../30/halloween/

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