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Re: Where to buy a Poppy for Remembrance Day

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Red poppies 'distressing' says students union
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Oh my goodness, those sensitive souls...................... :-(
It's nothing new. White poppies have been around for donkey's years for those who don't want to wear a red poppy. They represent pacifism and vastly pre-date the rather pointless expression of "snowflake".
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Old 25.11.2016, 15:34
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It's nothing new. White poppies have been around for donkey's years for those who don't want to wear a red poppy. They represent pacifism and vastly pre-date the rather pointless expression of "snowflake".
It's nothing against white poppies, rather how anyone who is currently studying at UEA can find red poppies "distressing".
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Old 25.11.2016, 15:34
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It's nothing against white poppies, rather how anyone who is currently studying at UEA can find red poppies "distressing".


Exactly
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Old 25.11.2016, 15:40
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It's nothing against white poppies, rather how anyone who is currently studying at UEA can find red poppies "distressing".
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Isn't that the reason for white poppies, though? The wearing of red denotes blood and anger (which was presumably distressing for some ), which is why the white ones came about.
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Old 25.11.2016, 15:42
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Isn't that the reason for white poppies, though? The wearing of red denotes blood and anger (which was presumably distressing for some ), which is why the white ones came about.


I understand that, but a student feeling distressed by that poppy? lots and lots of anxieties ahead then .......... if that already makes them feel stressed
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Old 25.11.2016, 15:49
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I understand that, but a student feeling distressed by that poppy? lots and lots of anxieties ahead then .......... if that already makes them feel stressed
I agree but sometimes I feel these days that superlatives are used in these circumstances by the shovel-load to give weight to those making a protest, making them feel more important than they are.

I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall seeing how "distressed" they got in reality.
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Isn't that the reason for white poppies, though? The wearing of red denotes blood and anger (which was presumably distressing for some ), which is why the white ones came about.
The red poppy came from this - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Flanders_Fields
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Old 25.11.2016, 15:56
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Yes, I should have clarified my post, meaning the inference of the two colours to the distressed-types.
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Old 25.11.2016, 16:08
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We covered this all on Wednesday...

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Somewhere between posts 62 and 92
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Re: Where to buy a Poppy for Remembrance Day

Poppies (red ones anyway) are in Zürich now. St Andrews church has them and they just brought a box to my cheese shop in the Viadukt. I guess the Lion will also have them as well.
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Generation snowflake snowflakes.

Red poppies 'distressing' says students union
Wrong. Again.


The union believes that people dont really know what the red ones are for anymore:


"...says it believes many people think the red poppy is a celebration of "atrocities" by the British Army, and can be "distressing"."


The british army has been involved in atrocities, whether you like that fact or not.


Keep in mind, UEA, like most universities, will have a large contingent of foreign students. Some of whom may well be coming from the countries that the atrocities might have taken place in.


"The union says it "does not view red poppies, or people who wear them, in a negative light... it's about giving people a personal choice in how they show respect"."


The union is trying to put any concerned students at ease - as every union should be doing.
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Interesting point / distinction actually.

I would happily donate to the good work the British Legion does, but would feel uncomfortable doing it through the symbol of a red poppy.
If it commemorated purely WW1 and WW2, I'd have no problem with it at all...most of the people that died were conscripted and had zero choice in the matter and rightly, should be feted as having bravely done something for the country and world at large that needed to be done.
I am less keen on the official message of all British soldiers who have died in the line of duty, ever, as I'm not really on board with a great deal of the ethics involved in the vast majority of our wars before and after the WWs.
During times where there is no conscription, joining the army is a job where you realise the inherent dangers and the rewards that it brings. I don't think that is the theatre where every participant is a hero, just because they are part of the army...there's far too much propaganda to try and justify the unjustifiable in my opinion.
And that's all it is, my opinion, feel free to disagree vehemently


Agreed completely. I stopped wearing a poppy when it became such a politicised icon. I happily donate, but do so privately, as all charity should be done. Its become more important to be seen to be remembering, then to actually be remembering.
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Old 02.11.2017, 14:38
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Re: Where to buy a Poppy for Remembrance Day

For those who do want to buy/wear one:

Either Grumpy´s cheese shop or buy a more permanent one at:

http://www.poppyshop.org.uk/
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