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Re: The First World Problem Thread

Both my first name and last name get pronounced in a changed, local way. If I pronounce it correctly to people, they have no idea who I am since it sounds so different. If I pronounce it "local" way, they immediately know and can also quickly imagine the correct spelling.

I think it depends on how much time one has to sort out logical misunderstanding.

I did read a bunch of research on identity, names, phonetics and psychological impact on people who are very mobile or migrants. The research advises for boosting tolerance and respect for those who insist on "authentic", original pronunciation of their names. I do that with my students, makes a difference.

In a country with high percentage of foreigners, if you insist on your habitual pronunciation, people will understand.
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Good point. When I'm in my home country, sometimes people will pronounce their names they way they're supposed to be (example in Spanish accent: Maria de Castillia Hernandez Gonzalez) and it's a bit weird.

Just making sure I'm not breaking some sort of social rule.
Properly pronounced, my name ends with a very Swiss "ch". The "correction" has always been to pronounce the g and the h seperately, which is a real headbender phonetically. You may have different results with the lisping, but it is still your name. I'm guessing you find the forms where you have to write your name here too narrow.
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Both my first name and last name get pronounced in a changed, to the local way. If I pronounce it correctly to people, they have no idea who I am since it sounds so different. If I pronounce it "local" way, they immediately know and can also quickly imagine the correct spelling.

I think it depends on how much time one has to sort out logical misunderstanding.

I did read a bunch of research on identity, names, phonetics and psychological impact on people who are very mobile or migrants. The research advises for boosting tolerance and respect for those who insist on "authentic", original pronunciation of their names. I do that with my students, makes a difference.
My surname isn't English originally but the pronounciation is "officially" Anglified because my grandfather gave up on trying to teach people how to prounce it properly.

I thus feel I don't really have much of a leg to stand on when I tell the Swiss to pronounce it the English way. They are merely exchanging one mispronounciation for another.

Furthermore, I do speak German with an awkward accent, but most Swiss don't immediately think I'm English. Many actually think I'm German, whereas in Germany people think I'm either Swiss or Dutch. When I tell them I'm English they do attempt to pronounce my name more the English way.

But I don't generally correct them. I find it amusing.
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Re: The First World Problem Thread

It's impossible for me when in UK - people always call me by my surname (thinking it's my first name). Have given up correcting them - if I had a cigar I would clench on it I'm sure.

Here in CH it's perfect.
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My surname isn't English originally but the pronounciation is "officially" Anglified because my grandfather gave up on trying to teach people how to prounce it properly.

I thus feel I don't really have much of a leg to stand on when I tell the Swiss to pronounce it the English way. They are merely exchanging one mispronounciation for another.

Furthermore, I do speak German with an awkward accent, but most Swiss don't immediately think I'm English. Many actually think I'm German, whereas in Germany people think I'm either Swiss or Dutch. When I tell them I'm English they do attempt to pronounce my name more the English way.

But I don't generally correct them. I find it amusing.
István, is that you?

Anytime I am in the US I find a lot of Czech names rewritten (even 1st names) to reflect the real authentic pronunciation. People changed it to not have their names massacred. They find the closest match. It is a funny, decoding process, for somebody from the "old country". I think I prefer to keep names spelled authentically (to record origine more accurately) but pronounced however it works for anyone. Políčko <- Pohleechko. Jiří <- Yirzi
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It's when people change your name to "Oi!" you have to worry (and possibly start running...)

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Not for Ken Oye, but otherwise, yes.
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Not for Ken Oye, but otherwise, yes.
God, he must be a bag of nerves.
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I sat next to him on a long flight a while back. The most interesting conversation I have ever had on an aircraft. Anything other than a bag of nerves.
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Re: The First World Problem Thread

My maiden name is a very typical French name with lots of none pronounced silent letters that confused the hell of anyone whom isn't French.

So I use my husband's name.
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Re: The First World Problem Thread

My married name is very Swiss-German, but not common. People here are always adding extra letters and thinking it's the other, more common name that is similar.

My OH pronounces the name differently depending on where we are, just to keep things simple. The South Africans get it in proper SG without any hassle and spell and pronounce it right. But it's easier for us to mispronounce it to just about everyone else, particularly the French, if we want anything spelled right.

With respect to old-school names in the U.S. being changed, a lot of it has to do with the accents. There's no č in English, so there's no way to accurately record the name. You leave out the accent it becomes "Policko" (which can mean a hard time for a child) or you do your best to include the sound with a ch instead.

Even the Germans get warped. A friend of mine has the surname Müller, which was changed to Mueller, and is now butchered by being pronounced "mew-ler". Drives her crazy.

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I have now listened to all the old Car Talk shows, but because one of the brothers died in 2014, they'll never record new ones
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Those are fun. Which one was it, the skunk on exhaust one?

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I need to do laundry and go to the supermarket today. But that means getting out of my pyjamas.

Dinnel delivery it is then!
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Re: The First World Problem Thread

My bublaninas* raised too much. My raising powder is too efficient. My local fruits and the rest of the amazing local ingredients are too good to waste on raising powder that works too much.

And I baked for kids and neighbors and made me a cake too, exceptionally, which will make me too sleepy at the rehearsal. I will have to feed fellow sopranos. Life is so hard

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My bublaninas* raised too much. My raising powder is too efficient. My local fruits and the rest of the amazing local ingredients are too good to waste on raising powder that works too much.

And I baked for kids and neighbors and made me a cake too, exceptionally, which will make me too sleepy at the rehearsal. I will have to feed fellow sopranos. Life is so hard

I'll take it... recipe please?
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I had to get changed to open the door for room service
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Bublanina: (bublat means to bubble):

4 eggs, 2 cups of flower, 1 cup of sugar, 1 sachet of raising powder, lemon zest, vanilla sugar, 1/2 cup of oil and 1/4 cup milk. Bake 20min at 200deg and then the rest at 180deg (cca 40 min).

And, most of all - any fresh fruit in it. I also add a pinch of salt, rum essence or rum (little).

Some people put cream instead of milk, some make it liquidy (turns out very fresh and tender), some more bready. Which is another 1st World dilema, right?

I use the same recipe for ginger cake, instead of fruit I add ginger bread mix of spices (Coop Lebkuchen whatever it's called), 3 large spoons of dark and thick plum jam and chocolate bits (I cut reg 80% chocolate bar) and chocolate powder, if kids want. Some soda powder and make it wetter, more milk, since there aren't fruits.

It is a bit like Claffoutis but with more oumph, Bohemian.
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Bublanina: (bublat means to bubble):

4 eggs, 2 cups of flower, 1 cup of sugar, 1 sachet of raising powder, lemon zest, vanilla sugar, 1/2 cup of oil and 1/4 cup milk. Bake 20min at 200deg and then the rest at 180deg (cca 40 min).

And, most of all - any fresh fruit in it. I also add a pinch of salt, rum essence or rum (little).

Some people put cream instead of milk, some make it liquidy (turns out very fresh and tender), some more bready. Which is another 1st World dilema, right?

I use the same recipe for ginger cake, instead of fruit I add ginger bread mix of spices (Coop Lebkuchen whatever it's called), 3 large spoons of dark and thick plum jam and chocolate bits (I cut reg 80% chocolate bar) and chocolate powder, if kids want. Some soda powder and make it wetter, more milk, since there aren't fruits.

It is a bit like Claffoutis but with more oumph, Bohemian.
Must try this with blueberries...
Raising powder means Backpulver/baking powder and not dried yeast, is that right?
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