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I need to go to Asia to see.
Yes, do. They're all exactly the same!!! In the Philippines, for example, they nominate one person to own every pair of shoes.
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Re: decluttering.

I spent three years of my life possessing nothing more than the contents of a rucksack.

I never, ever want to return to such a miserable existence.

I'm keeping my coupla thousand books if it's all the same to you hippies...
Why was it miserable?
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Why was it miserable?
Do you think it might have something to do with not being able to fit too many books into a rucksack?
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Yes, do. They're all exactly the same!!! In the Philippines, for example, they nominate one person to own every pair of shoes.
Woot...

I just want to slurp the noodles
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Hmm...I think in their case it's cultural. Modesty. They never buy stuff they absolutely can't live without. They are also so polite and pay attention to every word one says, instead of making comments about what I wear or own, I need to go to Asia to see.
the first thing my mother notices (and comments) about people is what they are wearing and then she checks out (unconsciously) what they have, they are valued accordingly

its a tricky one, because most people are not much more than their possessions (even in their own minds for example i own a porsche so i am better than someone who owns a skoda, i have a more expensive pair of shoes on so i will push in front of the person with plimsoles) so its a valid way to value them. its the ones who are more than this, that this mo becomes more tricky.
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Old 25.01.2014, 21:38
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Do you think it might have something to do with not being able to fit too many books into a rucksack?
theres always the library,

i gave away all the books i only thought were good enough to read once (why keep them, someone else can enjoy them), you don't need to own many books except maybe the tolkien trilogy to be happy.
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the first thing my mother notices (and comments) about people is what they are wearing and then she checks out (unconsciously) what they have, they are valued accordingly

its a tricky one, because most people are not much more than their possessions (even in their own minds for example i own a porsche so i am better than someone who owns a skoda, i have a more expensive pair of shoes on so i will push in front of the person with plimsoles) so its a valid way to value them. its the ones who are more than this, that this mo becomes more tricky.
Well..to start with, people owning Škoda (home sweet home) are all 1st world pimps. I am kidding, it's not true, it is a pretty affordable car.

Attaching value to people according to what they possess is strange. You get also treated according to what brand your shoes, jacket, accessories are, whatever you are sporting. Hair color and skin color does it's trick, as crappy as it is. Guys probably get treated sometimes accordingly to how pretty their wench, I mean girl is, and vice versa, which is as superficial as you can get. I think maybe that's why some people tend to collect..to feel like they are worth more. That's what I meant by detaching oneself from stuff means more control over one's life, including one's self worth. I know it's not as direct, and people are not superficial..still, I don't like showing off, and like not having things define me (nor that heap of yarn, either). I like confusing people in their judgment, actually, stereotypical thinking is irksomely boring.

People collect titles and degrees, too, though, for the same reason..not sure if that is a 1st world thing or a douche thing.
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Well..to start with, people owning Škoda (home sweet home) are all 1st world pimps. I am kidding, it's not true, it is a pretty affordable car.

Attaching value to people according to what they possess is strange. You get also treated according to what brand your shoes, jacket, accessories are, whatever you are sporting. Hair color and skin color does it's trick, as crappy as it is. Guys probably get treated sometimes accordingly to how pretty their wench, I mean girl is, and vice versa, which is as superficial as you can get. I think maybe that's why some people tend to collect..to feel like they are worth more. That's what I meant by detaching oneself from stuff means more control over one's life, including one's self worth. I know it's not as direct, and people are not superficial..still, I don't like showing off, and like not having things define me (nor that heap of yarn, either). I like confusing people in their judgment, actually, stereotypical thinking is irksomely boring.

People collect titles and degrees, too, though, for the same reason..not sure if that is a 1st world thing or a douche thing.
the reality is this is most people though,
look how much money women spend on hair products, clothing, shoes, handbags, makeup, to appear anything but who they are ..
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the reality is this is most people though,
look how much money women spend on hair products, clothing, shoes, handbags, makeup, to appear anything but who they are ..
I am not sure if 1st world high maintenance is only a female trait, though..

(I thought about what things I would say are ok to hoard..for some books, for others paraphernalia, I don't see camping gear as collecting, but it does complicate my plan to downsize and reduce personal possessions to a couple of hundred plus there are many chess pieces, and I have a lot of needles and pins, ugh, fruit canning jam making stuff, spices, sigh, looks like a 1st world problem though I don't like owning up to it)
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I am not sure if 1st world high maintenance is only a female trait, though..

(I thought about what things I would say are ok to hoard..for some books, for others paraphernalia, I don't see camping gear as collecting, but it does complicates my plan to downsize and reduce personal possessions to a couple of hundred plus there are many chess pieces, and I have a lot of needles and pins, ugh, fruit canning jam making stuff, spices, sigh, looks like a 1st world problem though I don't like owning up to it)
hehe thats quite funny bcs thats a lot of what i have, its a sort of insurance if the shtf, and it will theres no way we can carry on like we are.
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I am not sure if 1st world high maintenance is only a female trait, though..
You're right, my shoes and cologne could easily subsidize rent for a couple of months.
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Because I was poor.
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How on earth can you find anything?
My autistic son thinks in numbers, colours and days of the week (as in the day of the week he last did a thing on). Spine colour classification would suit him down to the ground.

Me: "want to read Pip and Posy and Super Scooter for your bedtime story?"
Him: "red and white, Thursday"

His visual memory is vast and he never seems to forget. I think he could run to several rooms full of books before he started getting confused.
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what do you mean by 'poor'? sometimes people never have enough, it does not necessarily lead to happiness. no matter how much money they are given (by the universe if you like) they always adjust their spending up to meet that new grenz.
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My autistic son thinks in numbers, colours and days of the week (as in the day of the week he last did a thing on). Spine colour classification would suit him down to the ground.

Me: "want to read Pip and Posy and Super Scooter for your bedtime story?"
Him: "red and white, Thursday"

His visual memory is vast and he never seems to forget. I think he could run to several rooms full of books before he started getting confused.
i noticed last night that i got some red ones from nil, because of the extreme reaction, i thought immediately that perhaps i had interfered with her ocd tendencies (that she freely talks about on the forum). i mean no one normally gets that upset about light hearted banter.

would your son have a tantrum if you did the library in another way?

you have to admit this colour coding thing is not a method you could easily sell to the british library. nor surprisingly a recommendation you would expect from a ex-teacher (which is what nil is)

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what do you mean by 'poor'?

Everything I owned could fit in a rucksack. I possessed almost nothing. It was shit.

"decluttering" is cool when you've got a good job and can always buy what you need if you need it. It's not so cool when you own bugger all because you can't afford to buy anything in the first place.
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..nor surprisingly a recommendation you would expect from a ex-teacher (which is what nil is)
Easy, easy..

Some people just can't deal with you having different opinion, heh, and will punish you when nobody's looking.

Why justify your opinion, unless you want to challenge the interior decorator ideas or make them see rainbow coded order looks ocd or kitch to some people. You can also see rainbows all over some squats. Kids love it.

I do like fabric stores. Have you seen how they range color envelopes in Manor? Those are empty, though, books fortunately aren't.
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Wise words DB. There is a slim silver lining though when you've been poor.. you find out that you really can survive with next to nothing. As a result money loses importance and remains what it is: a means. I found that it took away my fright of "not having". Strangely I've not craved anything since then.
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Well..to start with, people owning Škoda (home sweet home) are all 1st world pimps. I am kidding, it's not true, it is a pretty affordable car.

Attaching value to people according to what they possess is strange. You get also treated according to what brand your shoes, jacket, accessories are, whatever you are sporting. Hair color and skin color does it's trick, as crappy as it is. Guys probably get treated sometimes accordingly to how pretty their wench, I mean girl is, and vice versa, which is as superficial as you can get. I think maybe that's why some people tend to collect..to feel like they are worth more. That's what I meant by detaching oneself from stuff means more control over one's life, including one's self worth. I know it's not as direct, and people are not superficial..still, I don't like showing off, and like not having things define me (nor that heap of yarn, either). I like confusing people in their judgment, actually, stereotypical thinking is irksomely boring.

People collect titles and degrees, too, though, for the same reason..not sure if that is a 1st world thing or a douche thing.
When your daughter is an adult and maybe has her own children, you could well wish you hadn't thrown out the wool you used to knit her something in 2013.
you'll probably recall what was going on in her life, while you're knitting, and the reason she wanted that particular style and colour
Although you might want to chuck out the wool you used to make those gloves she threw at you when she screamed out "I hate you Mum, you're ruining my life'
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Wise words DB. There is a slim silver lining though when you've been poor.. you find out that you really can survive with next to nothing. As a result money loses importance and remains what it is: a means. I found that it took away my fright of "not having". Strangely I've not craved anything since then.
This is true, as a former rucksack period survivor, I actually have fond memories to what it taught me, despite all the horror it came with. There is nothing noble about poverty, tbh. But one gets to find out about oneself. And others. And how little one needs. And despite the fact I still did decluttered my rucksack periodically, so I should know better, I still have a problem tossing a gift that might be useless (or giving to sb else).
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