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Old 22.10.2015, 12:55
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Old 22.10.2015, 12:56
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I used to be able to flash my GA at the ticket inspector, whilst it remained in my wallet. Now I have the new SwissPass, I have to actually physically remove it to be scanned.
I still have the old GA.

But can't they do contactless scanning a bit like on an oyster card?
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Old 22.10.2015, 13:06
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Re: The First World Problem Thread

Women & children migrants in Calais are to be given heated tents, http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34600107

meanwhile in Slovenia, the migrants are burning the tents http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34592797

was there some sort of communication problem ?
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Old 22.10.2015, 13:39
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But can't they do contactless scanning a bit like on an oyster card?
You mean you hold your wallet with the SwissPass up to their reader?

You probably could do that and some inspectors will likely allow it. Though I wonder if their devices are sophisticated enough to filter out other RFID signals so that when a scan attempt is made it doesn't throw up multiple errors (since the typical wallet these days contains many RFID enabled cards).

They probably still want to check that all your card is legit and you're not masking something by putting the whole wallet up to the reader. I don't know, help me out here... since having the new SwissPass, I haven't had a control yet where they have demanded it.
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Old 22.10.2015, 13:44
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I used to be able to flash my GA at the ticket inspector, whilst it remained in my wallet. Now I have the new SwissPass, I have to actually physically remove it to be scanned.
?? Surely the inspector needs to see your photo and match it with your face ??
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Old 22.10.2015, 13:46
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I still have the old GA.

But can't they do contactless scanning a bit like on an oyster card?
They tried it; didn't work.
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?? Surely the inspector needs to see your photo and match it with your face ??
I keep it in a transparent pouch of my wallet, picture side up.
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Old 22.10.2015, 14:15
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You mean you hold your wallet with the SwissPass up to their reader?

You probably could do that and some inspectors will likely allow it. Though I wonder if their devices are sophisticated enough to filter out other RFID signals so that when a scan attempt is made it doesn't throw up multiple errors (since the typical wallet these days contains many RFID enabled cards).

They probably still want to check that all your card is legit and you're not masking something by putting the whole wallet up to the reader. I don't know, help me out here... since having the new SwissPass, I haven't had a control yet where they have demanded it.
I don't know.

In London the Oyster readers work perfectly well if you hold your entire wallet up to the reader, even if the oyster is sandwiched between other stuff. I guess the readers have a way of filtering out any responses from other cards that may accidentally be activated. I don't know what happens if you have two active oyster cards in your wallet at the same time. I always take care to use only one at any time. But it seems that from the technology angle the problem is solvable, so if SBB don't like it it's more an attitude problem. The only thing they need physically inspect is your picture, and they can do that if its in the display window of your wallet.
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Old 22.10.2015, 14:23
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I don't know.

In London the Oyster readers work perfectly well if you hold your entire wallet up to the reader, even if the oyster is sandwiched between other stuff. I guess the readers have a way of filtering out any responses from other cards that may accidentally be activated. I don't know what happens if you have two active oyster cards in your wallet at the same time.
I believe this is the case (unlike some other reader systems around the world which obviously don't filter and keep throwing up "invalid card" messages instead of being smart about it), although it gets complicated now as you can use contactless pay methods (like credit cards) to pay for fares now in place of Oyster. Hence the continuous reminders over the PAs in tube stations now to ensure you separate out the correct card to tap on the reader so you charge the correct card (and, e.g., enable daily caps and so on).
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Old 22.10.2015, 14:33
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Re: The First World Problem Thread

Clash of the cards!

https://tfl.gov.uk/fares-and-payment...ter/card-clash
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Old 22.10.2015, 15:57
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I don't know.

In London the Oyster readers work perfectly well if you hold your entire wallet up to the reader, even if the oyster is sandwiched between other stuff. I guess the readers have a way of filtering out any responses from other cards that may accidentally be activated. I don't know what happens if you have two active oyster cards in your wallet at the same time. I always take care to use only one at any time. But it seems that from the technology angle the problem is solvable, so if SBB don't like it it's more an attitude problem. The only thing they need physically inspect is your picture, and they can do that if its in the display window of your wallet.
It works perfectly with my cash-loaded uni card to pay for food at the cafeteria.

And the Lausanne bus inspectors can also scan your whole wallet to check your abo card...
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Old 23.10.2015, 11:02
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Re: The First World Problem Thread

People clap when the plane lands successfully, but nobody claps for me when I do my everyday job as expected
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Old 23.10.2015, 11:04
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People clap when the plane lands successfully, but nobody claps for me when I do my everyday job as expected
You don't? I thought that everyone did that here. Leaving my office is like walking off a rugby pitch.
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Old 23.10.2015, 11:10
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You don't? I thought that everyone did that here. Leaving my office is like walking off a rugby pitch.
You are aware they applauding you leaving and not your work aren't you?
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Old 23.10.2015, 11:26
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I did receive applause one time after a class. Why doesn't everyone do that?

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Old 23.10.2015, 11:44
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I did receive applause one time after a class. Why doesn't everyone do that?
I always wonder the same when the plane arrives safely.
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Old 23.10.2015, 12:06
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You are aware they applauding you leaving and not your work aren't you?
I like to think it's a little bit of both .
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Old 23.10.2015, 12:17
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I like to think it's a little bit of both .

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Old 23.10.2015, 13:14
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People clap when the plane lands successfully, but nobody claps for me when I do my everyday job as expected
I only clap when at some point during the landing the wings are at more than 45 degrees to the horizontal and we still land OK.

But Russians generally still clap all the time as they're still not used to things functioning normally.
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Old 23.10.2015, 14:22
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People clap when the plane lands successfully, but nobody claps for me when I do my everyday job as expected
More to the point, why? Are they worried that if they don't show appreciation if s/he lands the plane next time s/he won't? They are aware that s/he is on it too right? If the plane was on fire and the pilot lands it safely then I'll clap.
Except I have clapped once, but that was because it was the pilots last fight before retirement so I was clapping his career not the single task. It was very cool, the fire brigade came out and showered the plane as it approached the terminal. Although, the surprise was ruined because the co-pilot had to tell everyone it was going to happen so we wouldn't panic.
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Old 23.10.2015, 14:39
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More to the point, why?
Maybe it's just socially habitual from a long time ago. Usually, a round of applause denotes some form of appreciation, though I agree for most plane landings, it is unnecessary. I hear that the practice is also somewhat common in Latin American countries.

Beats me, help me out here....
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