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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

Found this Samsung 12kg machine - anyone have any experience?:
http://www.samsung.com/ch/consumer/h...24ZAC/SWS-spec

Although the only folks selling it seem to be an online retailer called 'The Brand Shop' , of whom I have never heard, and Interdiscount's online shop. What is odd is that these are unbelievably inexpensive...

In the end, though, I'll likely have to go with whatever brand is deliverable and installable immediately, as the mountain of washing is fast piling up.

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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

Miele are very, very good. Bosch & Siemens are very good. Simple machines last longer.
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Generally agree with the premise, but the battery problem is just a limitation of technology, not really something planned from the manufacturers. The need to buy new in the smartphone case is the non-removable battery.
As if insane marketing and spec jump cycles are not enough to make you buy a new one every 1 or 2 years...


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Most products the battery can be easily be replaced, Apple starting with the iPod starting producing sealed limited life products. As a shareholder it's good, but I am amazed how naive intelligent people are.

Not sure I need to buy new just because of spec jumps or something new is available.
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Most products the battery can be easily be replaced, Apple starting with the iPod starting producing sealed limited life products. As a shareholder it's good, but I am amazed how naive intelligent people are.

Not sure I need to buy new just because of spec jumps or something new is available.
Me neither, I'm not planning to change my almost 2yo Nexus 4 anytime soon. But a lot of people are gunning for the latest and greatest like crazy

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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

Siemens are a good company. Should something break with them, you automatically get a 5 yr guarantee for repairs etc. Just had a Siemens dishwasher door repaired cost free and hassle free.

As for Washing Machines, at the moment, I am in an apartment with Zūg Washing Machine/Tumble Dryer which are both also pretty decent, and certified as very energy efficient by LKW (Liechtensteinische Kraftwerke) at their shop in Schaan, FL.


Obviously, Miele are one of the best, if not the best, but prices for these are very high in general, however you get what you pay for. I know many people with Miele appliances who have had them for 10+ years without faults.
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

I'm also about to buy a Waschturm for my new place...how about the OP makes a poll with all the brands mentioned and everyone who can recommend one or more adds their feedback?
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

Well, for better or worse I've made my decision. I've gone for the Whirlpool 9kg semi-professional, AWM9300.

And the rationale was: this was the only machine that could be installed this week. Everyone else seems to be on holiday.

(Old dogs and muddy weather means I can't go without a machine for very long.)

I ordered direct from the area Whirlpool/Bauknecht representative - and got a 40% discount, nice.

Because I do 'so much laundry' - that is, more than 4 loads a week - the repairman's recommended that I consider a more robust machine made some sense. A little online research did bear out his comments. This 'semi-pro' seems to be a good compromise between function and price.

I'll report back on Thursday once the machine is up and running.

Now - I like Susan's idea of two machines.

I think my long-term plan will be to search out a reputable retailer of that 12 kg Samsung and turn my Wäschkuche into a semi-pro laundromat. The local dry cleaner and laundry service charges CHF 90-110 a pop to clean the duvets and matelasse bed covers; an extra large capacity machine (assuming the prices I've seen online are real and not just bait-and-switch advertising) would pay for itself in a year.

But for now, thumbs pressed I've made a decent choice.
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Old 15.07.2014, 13:08
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

We've got an LG direct drive machine which we've had for about 6 years now, had to replace the door seal but that was fairly easy and did it myself, and it doesn't leak even after I did seal change!!.

I can't remember exactly what weight, it's rated for but it takes our large duvet without too many problems.
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

I asked the washer repair guy (mending my Hotpoint for the umpteenth time!) a few years ago and he said Miele or Bosch are the ones he has least issues with
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Old 15.07.2014, 16:04
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

I think my long-term plan will be to search out a reputable retailer of that 12 kg Samsung and turn my Wäschkuche into a semi-pro laundromat. The local dry cleaner and laundry service charges CHF 90-110 a pop to clean the duvets and matelasse bed covers; an extra large capacity machine (assuming the prices I've seen online are real and not just bait-and-switch advertising) would pay for itself in a year.


MC, sounds like a GREAT plan! If you want a partner, I'm in!

I've actually wanted to put in an old fashion Laundromat combined with cafe for some time. The idea of getting our laundry done quicker and socializing sounds like a winner to me...but hey..this is Switzerland. Folks do things differently here. :-))

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Washing Machines...which brands are best?

I think a combination laundromat/do it yourself dog washing station and cafe is a good idea.

I think down duvets are easier than matelasse , matelasse is pretty heavy when wet. I was thinking of getting a wld silk/cashmere blanket, but that's pretty heavy too. Down is puffy and pretty light so i can stuff it into my washer and dryer.
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Old 15.07.2014, 16:47
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

Saw this too late for susan57 and meloncollie, but for the future...our building a Bosch Logixx something-or-other. Fits our queen-size (USA) comforter without a problem. Can also wash 2 sets of queen-size sheets at the same time. I still haven't figured out all the bells and whistles even after 4 years.
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

few months back when we were hunting for the washer drier system i was informed by the Fust guy that it will be next to impossible to have any after sale service for most of the Samsung machines in switzerland and hence they are relatively cheaper. I am not sure how true this is... may be some of you have experience?
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

Our 4 month old V Zug washing machine displayed an error message to Call Service. A control board was replaced CHF 400 and labour was CHF 200. Luckily the machine was under warranty so we didn't pay anything.

On the other hand we have a 1999 whirlpool washing machine in Singapore that still runs perfectly without all the computerized controls. Just some rust on the front panel. I just used it yesterday!
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Miele for sure.
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

I wonder if, now Alstom and GE are (almost) together, we will get staff discounts on GE white goods..? We used to get a nice discount for Hotpoint stuff in the UK when we were GEC Alsthom (note the 'h')

As for our current meelies in the keller, I'm just waiting for the day when I need to procure spare parts for them - I'm fairly sure that will end up being an exercise in utter frustration..
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I wonder if, now Alstom and GE are (almost) together, we will get staff discounts on GE white goods..? We used to get a nice discount for Hotpoint stuff in the UK when we were GEC Alsthom (note the 'h')

As for our current meelies in the keller, I'm just waiting for the day when I need to procure spare parts for them - I'm fairly sure that will end up being an exercise in utter frustration..
Not sure I would want a Hotpoint machine for free TBH, when you can get German or Japanese machines for peanuts.
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For large capacity machines, you need to consider something from Schultess, designed for industrial use.
http://www.schulthess.ch/de/gewerbe-...aschmaschinen/

Here you will find 8 - 16 kg, or 10 - 30 kg machines.

I cannot find the pricelist for these models online. There only seems to be one for the machines for EFH and MFH.
I have used some 10 machines so far, and very happy with the performance of Schulthess (it is provided in the common washing facility of our building). The machine cleans very good (including some strains that other machines could not clean with same programs/detergents). Tumble dryer is working ok, but not sure what could distinguish it.

A downside: the tumble drier had to go for repair already once (was away for two weeks approx) and machine also had some minor repair. If I remember correctly, the machine is only about 3 years old (though being used constantly)
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Re: Washing Machines...which brands are best?

Freeze brands are supposed to be more humane.
Mind you, I thought that branding your washing machine so that if she gets out you can prove she belongs to you isn't very PC these days?
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Washing Machines...which brands are best?

What's the standard in the US? 20lbs? I think we had a 20lb machine before we came here. It did seem bigger, but it was also a top loader with an agitator.
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