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Old 14.04.2014, 19:48
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

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I thought it was being sponsored, so no taxpayer money
Unless something changed more recently, it was due to take CHF229,000 of taxpayers money

http://www.newlyswissed.com/does-zur...ke-dock-crane/
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Old 15.04.2014, 00:24
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

Pretentious, pseudo-avantgarde, ridiculous, idiotic, arrogant, lunatic twaddle! Every time I hear the "artists" talk about why we have this monstrosity, it makes me want to set fire to the lot of them. They found some old bollard that is usually used for large ship, got scientists on the job, clearly proceeded to consume illegal substances and then had this brain fart.

And as is often the case with claptrap disguised as art, the critics are shot down with the usual "you don't understand, you are so reactionary, you have no idea about art". How very "emperor's new clothes". Zurich brought forth Dada, which was also about messing with the conventional way of doing and seeing things but this is not Dada, it's just gaga.

Have you heard about the ship's horn they have planned to underline their non-point?
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Old 15.04.2014, 01:59
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

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And as is often the case with claptrap disguised as art, the critics are shot down with the usual "you don't understand, you are so reactionary, you have no idea about art".
Reminds me of this.
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Old 15.04.2014, 09:25
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

If I put a franc into it, can I pick up a toy with the crane?
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Old 15.04.2014, 09:54
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

I like it. It made me think, sparked a new train of thought that stayed with me for several days.

On the other hand, lots of things do that for me - things like a clump of moss on the neighbor's roof - so my reactions may not be a very good yardstick for Art with a capital A.
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Old 15.04.2014, 11:10
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

I walked past it last night, and although I wouldn't call it art, I liked it. It wasn't complete last night so the photo above must be an "artists impression", it seems to fit better in real life and looked smaller.
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Old 15.04.2014, 11:59
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

Perhaps this needs to be seen with your own live bare eyes (I haven't come to it so far), but the idea and the pictures look like "a Faust auf's Auge" as the 'Tschörmän' saying goes...
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Old 15.04.2014, 12:03
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Pretentious, pseudo-avantgarde, ridiculous, idiotic, arrogant, lunatic twaddle! Every time I hear the "artists" talk about why we have this monstrosity, it makes me want to set fire to the lot of them. They found some old bollard that is usually used for large ship, got scientists on the job, clearly proceeded to consume illegal substances and then had this brain fart.

And as is often the case with claptrap disguised as art, the critics are shot down with the usual "you don't understand, you are so reactionary, you have no idea about art". How very "emperor's new clothes". Zurich brought forth Dada, which was also about messing with the conventional way of doing and seeing things but this is not Dada, it's just gaga.

Have you heard about the ship's horn they have planned to underline their non-point?
Reading between the lines I think I can tell that you're not overly impressed with the idea
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Old 15.04.2014, 12:19
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

When I first read the OP yesterday I assumed it was some sort of piss-take. But I guess not, and my oly reaction is WTF? Seriously, a dock crane is now considered a work of art?

I'm the first to accept that I'm a complete philistine when it comes to art, but it's not just a question of not 'getting' any particular concept. I just don't get 'art' that doesn't look nice at all. What's the point of putting up a fugly thing like that?

(Rhetorical question, I've heard it all before, and I still think you're all wrong, so nerr ).
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Old 15.04.2014, 12:36
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

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When I first read the OP yesterday I assumed it was some sort of piss-take. But I guess not, and my oly reaction is WTF? Seriously, a dock crane is now considered a work of art?

I'm the first to accept that I'm a complete philistine when it comes to art, but it's not just a question of not 'getting' any particular concept. I just don't get 'art' that doesn't look nice at all. What's the point of putting up a fugly thing like that?

(Rhetorical question, I've heard it all before, and I still think you're all wrong, so nerr ).
I also genuinely thought it was a joke too when I first read it. I just couldn't believe that people could be so monumentally stupid.

At least it's only for a year...
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Old 15.04.2014, 12:44
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

I think if you look at the bigger picture, it's actually a good thing. In a way.

Ever since whatever used to stand there was torn down way long ago, architects have been trying to outsmart one another as to why to do with that odd bit of land jutting out into the river. The all came up with a terribly original cube made of glass and with a flat roof, of course each claiming their own geometric rectangle was so much more original than that of the competition. That is their lost Pavlovian response to any free space they see in the city. But for this once thy didn't get their way, at least not for now, but don't expect the idea to die and never come back as the crane is only a temporary fix.
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Old 15.04.2014, 21:50
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What? You mean they could have put up two??
either two or three

or else one which would have been 1.5 as high
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Old 15.04.2014, 22:37
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Unless something changed more recently, it was due to take CHF229,000 of taxpayers money

http://www.newlyswissed.com/does-zur...ke-dock-crane/

Apparently, this country has waaaay too much money on its hands.
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

When I saw the SVP propaganda with a sketch of the gigantic crane in the center of the city I could do nothing but laugh at the alarmist leaflet...

Then a week ago I walked past it and WTF!! they were serious!!
Ugliest stuff ever, maybe I'm not into modern art but this looks a bit idiotic to me
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

Passive aggressive, sociopolitical commentary in quasi-opposition of the perpetually excessive construction occurring in Zürich -if not the entire countryside, making its status as a 'work of art' amplify its symbolic significance: the focus on infrastructural growth instead of cultural growth and enrichment results in the stagnation if not uglification of the Swiss identity.
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

Couldn't they hang a platform on it and do some bungee jumping from it?
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Couldn't they hang a platform on it and do some bungee jumping from it?
This is ONE thing to be done with that piece of les Beaux Arts
while the other one is to donate it to Herrliberg, with Mr Blocher arranging the move
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Old 07.05.2014, 22:48
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Re: Opinions on the Zürich " crane"

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Stupid, ironic, eyesore, unimaginative, etc, etc.

You get my drift.
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Apparently, this country has waaaay too much money on its hands.
Can you remember the "set of 120 bricks" at the Tate, art display in London in 1976?

http://theartnewspaper.com/articles/...e+bricks/23578

...well a few weeks later a cartoon in the Evening Standard showed the 120 bricks as a vertical wall, and an art critic was saying "It's a fake!"
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At least it's only for a year...
Is it really just for a year? In that case I have no problem with it any more.
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