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18.04.2014, 01:44
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Hi All!
I am moving soon from my one bed apartment (tiny 2 pieces) and I want to find a spacious 3 pieces (2 bed ) apartment in Vaud for me and my child for a budget of CHF1'600.- charges included. I know that my requirements (spacious 2 bed, max 1'600) are pretty unrealistic for Lausanne, Vevey, Lutry, Pully etc. So have started to think about other less desirable areas.
I am willing to live somewhere away from the lake and inland like Epalinges, Servion, Ecublens etc etc but I do not know these areas at all (yet!)
I have two questions basically:
1. Is there a housing crisis also in these villages above Lausanne or is it considerably easier to get a place.
2. Do you have a recommendation of one area against another, i.e definitely do not search in Servion for XX reason, or Savigny is great (made up examples I have no clue!)
I do not have a commute and do not need to be anywhere daily. (work from home) I do want to definitely stay in Vaud for several reasons. I would however like to be fairly near a train station, even a tiny one, rather than just on a bus route or not even that. I am looking for a village that has a train station, post office, one swimming pool, couple of supermarkets etc. Wouldn't need more than that.
I used to want to live in the glamourous, happening areas, but with a child that desire faded away bit by bit and has been replaced with the daydream of a beautiful cosy, large apartment with somewhere outside for my child to play, and just kind of a special place to live. I look on Immoscout and come across these wonderful apartments with gorgeous floorboards, long corridors, high ceilings when I look at areas like Bex or Payerne, so I know for CHF1600 it is possible, I just need to focus on definate areas now and get to know the best villages. Being close to Lausanne is a nice idea, which led me to wanting to research villages above Lausanne.
So, Epalinges, Ecublens, Froidville, Mezieres, Ursy, Palezeuix, Servion, Forel ….. thoughts??
And the housing crisis, is it in these villages or not?? (overpriced and housing shortage)
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18.04.2014, 08:27
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing?
Above Epalinges - Savigny, Forel, Claie aux Moines, etc., - prices are climbing like crazy. It's a bit easier than Lausanne, for sure, but not terribly so.
You can have more luck with Ecublens, but part of it are a bit like the French cités. Not ideal if you have a child.
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18.04.2014, 12:35
| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing?
Prices are crazy all over that area. You could consider moving further afield and commute- by car or train- towards the Gros de Vaud, Cossonay, Orbe, etc, and Yverdon for train station- but even there prices have gone up significantly in last few years.
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18.04.2014, 12:42
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing? | Quote: |  | | | Prices are crazy all over that area. You could consider moving further afield and commute- by car or train- towards the Gros de Vaud, Cossonay, Orbe, etc, and Yverdon for train station- but even there prices have gone up significantly in last few years. | | | | | Technically since she says she works from home and doesn't need to commute there are loads of options a bit further out from Lausanne but still in Vaud.
If the main criteria is a railway station I would look at the CFF rail map to find places in Vaud with stations and then narrow the search down from there.
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18.04.2014, 13:10
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing? | Quote: | |  | | | If the main criteria is a railway station I would look at the CFF rail map to find places in Vaud with stations and then narrow the search down from there. | | | | | That's exactly what I was going to suggest. How close does the OP need to be to the train station? In many of the villages you will need a car to get to the train station otherwise in some cases living near the train station is more expensive or really not nice (depending on which station of course).
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing?
Thanks everyone
Today I am looking also at Grandson and Yvonand also, which are close to Yverdon, that way I would be near a lake. The prices are mixed.
I spoke to a Swiss friend who told me not to bother with Ecublens.
Still curious about Forel, Epalinges etc.
Any suggestions are very welcome, I would love to know where is still affordable but still a nice village/town specifically, so any names would be great.
When you go away from Lac Leman surely this still exists !! (Affordable and Easy attribution )
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If you reading this had to choose amongst the following areas to live, where would you choose?? Maybe if several people could pick 1 or 2 I could start to understand the region and narrow down a bit my search.
Specifics/requirements - spacious 3 pieces, near train station (even small one)
max. budget 1600.- francs
I don't have a car. I would like to be on a train line that went to Lausanne without having to change.
The areas :
Vufflens - la - Ville
Mezieres
Epalinges
Forel
Servion
Oron
Ursy
Lucens
Romont
Attelens
Chatel - St - Denis
Romanel Sur Lausanne
Cugy
Etagnieres
Moudon
Thierrens
Payerne
Grandson
Yverdon
I did look at the CFF map for 'all stations in vaud' and it looked great but unfortunately when I clicked to zoom in, the station red buttons disappear.
A train map would be awesome but I can't find one other than the above.
Helping me in regards to this is so so kind, as once I move I want to stay where I am and raise my child. I am essentially finding a family home for us for my child to grow up in. I am not going to move and then move again. Which is why I am trying to get the area so right in the first place.
Thanks all so much
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18.04.2014, 20:58
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| | Re: List | Quote: | |  | | | If you reading this had to choose amongst the following areas to live, where would you choose?? Maybe if several people could pick 1 or 2 I could start to understand the region and narrow down a bit my search.
Specifics/requirements - spacious 3 pieces, near train station (even small one)
max. budget 1600.- francs
I don't have a car. I would like to be on a train line that went to Lausanne without having to change.
The areas :
Vufflens - la - Ville
Mezieres
Epalinges
Forel
Servion
Oron
Ursy
Lucens
Romont
Attelens
Chatel - St - Denis
Romanel Sur Lausanne
Cugy
Etagnieres
Moudon
Thierrens
Payerne
Grandson
Yverdon
I did look at the CFF map for 'all stations in vaud' and it looked great but unfortunately when I clicked to zoom in, the station red buttons disappear.
A train map would be awesome but I can't find one other than the above.
Helping me in regards to this is so so kind, as once I move I want to stay where I am and raise my child. I am essentially finding a family home for us for my child to grow up in. I am not going to move and then move again. Which is why I am trying to get the area so right in the first place.
Thanks all so much | | | | | I only know Payerne, Yverdon and Grandson from that list.
I think you should be able to find a nice place for 1600chf a month in any of those three but there is more going on in Yverdon and there are better rail links to Lausanne from there as the fast trains stop in Yverdon.
All three places are nice for families with young children in my opinion and are all near to lake Neuchatel.
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Thank you Belgium mum!
Originally I did think of Yverdon above the other two. But then I read that it is starting to become a bit unsavoury. There was a few violent incidents amongst teenagers and crime is increasing. This put me off completely but maybe I should re-think it.
The last thing I want is to live somewhere where I feel a bit unsafe, even early evening for example. By lac leman I find it SO safe, ridiculously so and I love that.
But maybe I didn't research Yverdon enough and it is actually not that bad at all??
As you said it is a nice place for families so it depends who you ask I guess!
Any others opinions on Yverdon more than welcome. Crime level plus also if it is an easy housing market and affordable.
Lastly maybe there are some good areas and bad in Yverdon? Depends on which streets?
thank you !!
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing?
Small villages will have only a kindergarten and a fee classes of elementary schools.
Train stations - on Google Maps, if you zoom in/out just the right amount, you will see the train lines and stations - just go along these few lines in Vaud. You have the line going from Lausanne through Renens to Yverdonne, then the one going to Geneve, to Romont, the LEB to Echellans and up north, the one from Morges up north, the one from Chavornay to Orbe and Vallorbe, and the lines to Montreux and Valais.
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing?
Many of those village you listed you will need a car to get to the train station. Even those with buses, the buses don't go very often.
Chatel-St-Denis is lovely and growing but it's in Fribourg. Attalens and Romont are also in Fribourg.
Moudon and Lucens are not very nice, IMO, which is why they are so cheap.
What about the villages above Vevey & Montreux? There aren't as many obviously but they are lovely. I don't know how the prices compare but Vevey is already less expensive than Lausanne.
Honestly to be in walking distance to a train station, you need to be in a bigger village like Yverdon.
Savigny, Forel, Mezieres, Vufflens, Servion are all not practical without a car. Check the bus routes/time tables for those. You'd have to live not far from the bus stop.
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What about the crime in Yverdon, the gangs of youths stories…. is it a concern - something to think about? Or is Yverdon overall a safe place and those are just a few isolated incidents as in any town? How is it crime wise compared to somewhere to Bienne for example? Or lausanne?
After reading your answers about needing a car or bus stop near, I am veering more on the Yverdon area.
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Mini Mia
Yes, lots of beautiful houses in Moudon and Lucens, I guess they must be really boring ugly areas! I saw one in Moudon for 1300 that was a 4.5 pieces with garden and the images of the apartment were so luxurious - ideal house!
I have arranged to see one apartment in Epalinges - give me an idea of that area. And after Easter I will set up a whole day of visits for Yverdon.
You've all been very helpful - its so great to ask for help here !!
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19.04.2014, 02:07
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing? | Quote: | |  | | | What about the crime in Yverdon, the gangs of youths stories…. is it a concern - something to think about? Or is Yverdon overall a safe place and those are just a few isolated incidents as in any town? How is it crime wise compared to somewhere to Bienne for example? Or lausanne?
After reading your answers about needing a car or bus stop near, I am veering more on the Yverdon area. | | | | | Bienne is in Neuchatel. I thought you wanted to live in Vaud? If you can get out of Vaud then Fribourg has lovely less expensive options. | Quote: | |  | | | Mini Mia
Yes, lots of beautiful houses in Moudon and Lucens, I guess they must be really boring ugly areas! I saw one in Moudon for 1300 that was a 4.5 pieces with garden and the images of the apartment were so luxurious - ideal house!
I have arranged to see one apartment in Epalinges - give me an idea of that area. And after Easter I will set up a whole day of visits for Yverdon.
You've all been very helpful - its so great to ask for help here !! | | | | | Go look at Moudon and Lucens and see what you think.
I don't know Epalinges very well but I thought it was quite an expensive area, no? Honestly I don't know about prices. I haven't looked at properties in a long time.
At the end of the day, you're just going to have to go out and see what you think. If you see a place advertised that you like in your price range, check out how close it is to public transportation. But then you have to check the time tables. Just because there might be a bus stop, the bus might only come a few times a day.
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing? | Quote: | |  | | | Bienne is in Neuchatel. | | | | | Bienne is Canton Bern.
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By saying Bienne I was asking about crime rate comparison and if Yverdon has the same social problems, I was not saying that Bienne was in the Canton of Vaud or I was thinking of living there, I know it is in Bern, I was just trying to get an idea of how safe Yverdon is. Sorry for the confusion.
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing? | Quote: | |  | | | What about the crime in Yverdon, the gangs of youths stories…. is it a concern - something to think about? Or is Yverdon overall a safe place and those are just a few isolated incidents as in any town? How is it crime wise compared to somewhere to Bienne for example? Or lausanne?
After reading your answers about needing a car or bus stop near, I am veering more on the Yverdon area. | | | | | There were some problems with 'gangs' of teenagers hanging about in some areas of Yverdon but they're pretty much isolated incidents I believe. I would say that overall Yverdon is a pretty safe place to live with lower crime levels than Lausanne and possibly Bienne too.
My husband has loads of colleagues who commute to Neuchatel from Yverdon and they're really happy living there. Most of them are families but there are a couple of single guys too.
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| | Re: Epalinges - Housing crisis there too? Above Lausanne - easier to find housing? | Quote: | |  | | | Bienne is Canton Bern. | | | | | To-may-to, To-mah-to! | Quote: | |  | | | By saying Bienne I was asking about crime rate comparison and if Yverdon has the same social problems, I was not saying that Bienne was in the Canton of Vaud or I was thinking of living there, I know it is in Bern, I was just trying to get an idea of how safe Yverdon is. Sorry for the confusion. | | | | | Ah. Ok. I don't know about crime rates but as BM says, it's certainly not any less safe than Lausanne.
Best bet to go out and explore! If anything it would be fun.
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Thanks everyone
I will write a little update on this post in a week or so when I have explored further Yverdon (what its like) and Epalinges (the prices and availability )
thanks again
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Hi, I am not sure if I am a bit late with my comment but if it helps, we are moving to Epalinges next week. We chose Epalinges because my wife will be working there. It is a quite area surrounded by lots of green areas and the Lausanne train station is a couple of minutes away by subway. It took a while, but we managed to find a small 3 bedroom apartment. I will report back from Epalinges when I arrive in Switzerland next week.
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