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Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

Hi Guys!

Good day to all of you. It's nice to have registered here.

I just need your advice.

I'm having a two-month job training in Switzerland (specifically in Basel) starting from the last week of June up to early September. My colleague said that that period of the year is your summer there.

I just need to know if the summer is hot enough or at least helping to get rid of the coldness for the whole day. I am thinking it is Europe, there may be no snow during this period, but how about the wind?

Do I still need to bring my jacket to wear like in the morning and in the afternoon and evening?

You know how hot it is in tropical Asia that we're comfortable wearing just long-sleeved shirts and slacks walking outside.

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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

https://www.basel.com/en/climate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basel#Climate

Not cold, no snow, rarely really hot (a couple of days above 30C tops), usually less humid, wind varies - in sum: not like in (most of) SEA.

Yes, bring a jacket, it can still get cold in the mornings, especially in June and towards September.
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

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You know how hot it is in tropical Asia that we're comfortable wearing just long-sleeved shirts and slacks walking outside.
that will be enough most of the time (when the weather is good), but weather and temperatures just aren't consistent in Europe so you need a jacket.

Also north of the alps if it rains it can get pretty cold even in the summer I think.
Also if you come from SE Asia you will feel colder than euros, especally at night.
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

You shouldn't expect any snow but you should expect it to be nothing like Southeast Asia. Bring a warm jacket
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

Coming here from Florida, I was chilly enough to need sweatshirt / light jacket (what I'd term "Florida winter gear") at least to middle of June and again toward the end of August.

Here in Basel, yes, you will probably need them on rainy days, especially thunderstorm days - our rain is COLD (not like the nice warm rains I'd happily play in when I lived in Florida and Hawaii).

However, not knowing how it is for you in SE Asia, in the heat of July and August, it is really, really hot, feeling like it will never end miserable hot. Part of the reason for this is that there really isn't any "climatized" air to be had. Central air is an anomaly here, so you will want clothes in which you are comfortable to work even in the no-relief-to-be-had heat. (Yes, even the first year I was here, summer was miserably hot b/c I was THAT used to having air conditioning)

So, in closing. Pack for almost any sort of weather, except snow.
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

There is no humidity to speak of, so, when the sun goes behind a cloud or in the mornings or evenings, you are going to think it is cold. Bring layers, i.e. sweaters, jackets, etc.

During the middle of the day, you can take off your layers and wear a t-shirt. You will see very few people in shorts or sleeveless shirts or flip-flops. (These will most likely be tourists.)
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

I lived for some years in Hong Kong, so not quite as hot as SE Asia - and although I am an ice-cold-and-snow person at heart, I adjusted to the semi-tropical climate, almost finding it comfortable.

I find Swiss summers unbearable in comparison.

One factor is the way houses are constructed.

My well-sealed and well-insulated house never cools down. I don't run the heating often in the winter, never let the house get above 18. I turned the heating system off completely at the beginning of March, and even with windows wide open when there was snow on the ground I can't bring the inside temperature below 15.

When the sun shines the house heats up uncomfortably in just a few hours even if the outside temp is still moderate. And then the house stays uncomfortably hot.

Swiss buildings of my house's vintage (1980s) were built to conserve heat, but that means you'll likely swelter in the summer.

To keep the house from heating up in the sun you have to keep all blinds down during the day. Which is fine if you are out during the day. If you are at home, though, you might find that living in the dark takes some getting used to.

When I lived on the other side of the lake nights did indeed cool down, so I could vent the house. But summer nights do not cool off where I live now, so opening a window does little to help.

(Besides, one has to keep nighttime quiet hours in mind. Open windows mean that you have to whisper and walk on eggshells.)

Did I mention that I hate summer?

The good news, though, is that summer only comes around once every five years or so. The rest of the time June, July, and August are simply known as bug season.
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

We arrived in Zurich having spent 17 years in Singapore. We certainly needed long trousers and sweatshirts on a few days during last summer, especially in the early morning and evening. We noticed that even with a few 100m of elevation the temperature drops a few degrees, so if you plan walking or cycling in the hills certainly bring a few layers with you. Hope you have a good trip
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

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Not cold, no snow, rarely really hot (a couple of days above 30C tops), usually less humid, wind varies - in sum: not like in (most of) SEA...
The last four days have been 34,34,37 and 33 in the Basel area. But in other summers, I recall it being 13 in July for about two weeks.
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

In other words, be prepared for anything.
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Swiss buildings of my house's vintage (1980s) were built to conserve heat, but that means you'll likely swelter in the summer.
Sorry but that is rubbish. A well insulated building will keep heat in in winter and out in summer. As long as you vent it in the morning to take advantage of the cooler air and then close everything (no open windows during the day) it will stay relatively cool.

We cooled my well insulated house down to about 20.5C yesterday morning and it never exceeded 21.5C all day. A badly insulated house would have heated up to well over 25 in that time.

Today was more of a problem as we had Fhn most of the night and it never cooled down.
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

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Sorry but that is rubbish. A well insulated building will keep heat in in winter and out in summer. As long as you vent it in the morning to take advantage of the cooler air and then close everything (no open windows during the day) it will stay relatively cool.
Perhaps your house... but sadly not mine.

Mine is wonderful in winter; I only need to heat one floor to 18 degrees, letting the heat rise into the rest - and then only for a few months in winter. The house remains toasty, and my winter heating costs pennies.

As above I turned the heating completely off in March this year, opening the windows every day. Even though the temps were still in the single digits, I could not cool the house down below 15.

Once the outside temp rises above 20 the house starts to heat up again, retaining heat despite opening windows from 5am to 8am and then keeping blinds closed the entire day.

I'd kept the house at 15-18 degrees up until last week, the start of the heat wave.

I was gone over the weekend, and while the sitter followed my routine of venting and keeping blinds down, she wasn't quite as careful as I am about closing doors immediately whenever she let the mutts out - the house is now 30 degrees.

It will likely remain so until daytime temps are well under 20 for a long stretch of time. This house simply does not cool down.

A large part of the problem is that nights do not cool down here.
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

In the climate-controlled 'minergie' block where I work, the indoor temperature is 24 degrees constant through 10 months of the year.

I wonder if your 'not cool enough' temperature is because you desire a lower temperature ? I could not imagine feeling comfortable under 18 degrees indoors. I have thermometers in the apartment at home and in most rooms at work, and below about 22 everyone starts to say 'it is cold' and above 24 ' it is warm' and today it was 27 'so hot'....
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

Guys from singapore and other hot countries should not be worried about the cold temperature - since you can alwys buy another layer of clothes when you are cold. You have to be scared at the hot temperatures !!

not kindding, but just because you wont find any AC here ... I think you also wont have any in UK / Sweden / etc.

... as a half indonesian all the family who visited us in summer suffered from the warm temp ... even though it was prob. 5-10C below Indonesian temperature ... but they are not used taking the heat permanently without running to the next AC cooled room.

also two mexicans who came visiting me where whining about how hot it was to sleep and eat in a restaurant without AC.

Two friends of my father where visiting from Phoenix AZ - at start they took it quite easy with the temperatures, since Phoenix has temperatures like in Hell. But after a few days they asked if we where in possesion of a mobile A/C :P

And from my 4 times I was in Singapore (mostly 1-3 day transit) I know that they cool bloody everything to 11 C.

At this moment my bureau has exactly 28 C and sun shines directly on my forearm but i like it!

The only think i still can not be a friend with is sitting on my nice black leather car seats after work after 8 hours direct sun exposure. *suicide*
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

hehehe just saw that summerrain (asian) opened exactly that topic

just get used to it ... cooling yourself down is just making it worse
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Re: Is Swiss summer like the SouthEast Asian summer?

Bring a light waterproof jacket. The typical Swiss Summer can be a few sweltering hot days, followed by tremendous, powerful thunderstorms for a day or two. Rinse (literally) and repeat.
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