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Ausserschwyz is the standard description for the Höfe and March areas, that is, those around the Zürichsee.

Ausserschwyz is sometimes thought of as a Zürich suburb. But not by those who live there.



Schwyz can generally be divided (geographically as well as in terms of attitudes and experiences, not to mention tax rates) into Ausserschwyz, Einsiedeln, and Innerschwyz. Although Einsiedelers may think of themselves as Innerschwyzers - but Einsiedeln ain't the Muotathal.
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No. She actually knows what she's talking about.

Do you?
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Old 23.10.2015, 09:24
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Schwyz can generally be divided (geographically as well as in terms of attitudes and experiences, not to mention tax rates) into Ausserschwyz, Einsiedeln, and Innerschwyz. Although Einsiedelers may think of themselves as Innerschwyzers - but Einsiedeln ain't the Muotathal.
No, Einsiedeln is Ausserschwyz.

"Das Zivilstandsamt Ausserschwyz mit Sitz in Pfäffikon SZ umfasst die Gemeinden der Bezirke Höfe, March und Einsiedeln."

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Then I stand corrected.
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Oh yes! Not all… mainly the older generation! But much more so than you would find say in the UK or US.
Thats how it is. Lot of (elderly) conservative people living here which dont like foreign.
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Oh yes! Not all… mainly the older generation! But much more so than you would find say in the UK or US.
I don't think you're qualified to make such a comparison.

Being british yourself you will obviously be treated and reacted to in a different way in Briain/UK than a foreigner, who contrary to you is probably unaware of the details in expected behavior. And of course what's normal to you on the other side of the Channel may well be considered unfriendly by a foreigner even if the two of you were treated exactly the same way.
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My guess is you live in AusserSchwyz(anywhere in sight of Zürisee) rather than InnerSchwyz(anywhere you can see Grosser & Kleiner Mythen). Lucky you. Racism and prejudice is unfortunately alive and well in the Inner Schwyz. If your not related to at least half of your neighbours then you don't belong.
There's more truth in that statement than any local would readily admit.
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

Moving to Zh in a month. Plenty to scare one from this thread alone...good to hear some positive stories too
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

have just moved here. It is definitely not so scary But I had to adjust
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Old 28.10.2015, 14:48
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

It's when you start becoming more Swiss than even your over the top Swiss, that's when it gets scary!!

Not me, but a friend of mine. The shoe taking off, the immaculate apartment, the toilet flushing, music playing - everything. Not even a bit of rebellion in there.

But she loved to go to other peoples places to let her hair down!! Not her problem!!
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Old 28.10.2015, 15:49
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

I have not met or encountered any Swiss in my neighborhood to make any opinion.


At work, it is multicultural and they all seem fine.
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Old 29.10.2015, 07:22
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

So you live in Switzerland and have not met any Swiss people :O?

In which company do you work?
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Old 29.10.2015, 10:38
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

Saying Gruzi and smiling is not meating people. Some of my colleagues who have bene here longer than me still do not have local friends. Looks like foreigners have foreign social circles.
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Old 29.10.2015, 10:51
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

Well my wife made a friend recently and she is only about 3 1/2 months here. Its another mother from the Kindergarten. She is Swiss and came to our house with her son for our kids to play.

It depends on the person I guess, but it shows that there can be a rule but there is always an exception.
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Old 29.10.2015, 10:59
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

Yes some Swiss do like to talk to foreigners. One this old lady started talking to me at the station, when we were waiting for the train. She asked me where I was from and what I do and asked me if I liked Switzerland. Then she asked me when will I be going back to my country.
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Old 29.10.2015, 11:09
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Yes some Swiss do like to talk to foreigners. One this old lady started talking to me at the station, when we were waiting for the train. She asked me where I was from and what I do and asked me if I liked Switzerland. Then she asked me when will I be going back to my country.
Ouch.
I also seem to attract old ladies. One time I spoke with a Swiss who said she doesnt like the Swiss people too much () because they are all nice and sweet in front of you but harshly gossip and criticize you behind your back. And that I shouldnt trust what they say because it is all a facade. Thought she might be another bitter ex-immigrant because despite her perfect German I could still sense a vague trace of an accent. I met her again (same bus line) and found out that she was a real Swiss, indeed, but from the French side.
We still talk when we see each other, she is very open. (didnt ask me yet when Im going home)
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

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I live in a small village, and I have had similar instances like you describe, particularly from older people or swiss people without kids. However, I also know lots of very friendly and nice swiss people. So please don't let these first impressions colour your judgement of all swiss people.

I remember when I started my first job and did not speak such good german. I joined a large team and found everyone polite but not very open and warm and this was difficult as I never really felt integrated in the team. However, I now speak better german, understand more swiss german and am now in different job where there are lots of friendly, nice and warm swiss people and I am very happy....so please give the swiss a chance!!
Hope this helps!
Let me know how you get on
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Old 30.10.2015, 08:25
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I do agree that everywhere there are all kind of people. Maybe it is not a Swiss-thing, but is a west-continental-European thing (or whatever you would call the surrounding region).

I have never heard someone in Bosnia or Turkey complaining at something described by the OP. On the other hand, children in Turkey will be much louder and if I was living there, I imagine I wouldn't have enjoyed it...

People do complain everywhere, but the nature of things tends to be different. And behavior of people in my opinion tends to change more gradually with the geographic region than being confined to such a small place as Switzerland.

p.s. in my limited experience of Swiss, I find Swiss people living in small places to be nicer (but I think this for any country I have experience of)

p.s.s. I would have tones of things to complain about certain, not small categories of people in my own country, I guess I am just one of those who tend to complain... I accept it to not be the best habit..
I don't mind kids playing outside even screaming. Normal kids stuff. But when I lived in turkey, one think that used to drive me bonker was kids screaming mom repeatedly for minutes until she would come out the window. Because the kids were too lazy to come up.

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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

Our Swiss neighbors just had their first child and they are mortified about the noise in the middle of the night. Now, every time we meet, they apologize profusely for the noise. We honestly can not hear the crying and tell them not to worry - we don't hear anything. I think they think we are just being polite so they continue to apologize. Its something we will laugh about later on.
Maybe not too pertinent to this thread, but I am so very thankful we ended up with the neighbors we have.
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Re: Are the Swiss really like this?

I have a couple of super-cool Swiss friends - the kind who I can visit uninvited when I'm in the area. They are MY Swiss friends, and not my OH's old school mates (who are fine people, too).

In my experience, all Swiss I met appreciate my effort to learn both Hoch and Schweizer Deutsch - I can understand daily conversations between 70 to 100%, less when it gets technical or people speak very fast. My comprehension is also slowed down by the fact that my friends and acquaintances live in different German-speaking cantons, so I have to absorb several dialects, but all people I met are supportive and encouraging. On the other hand, my kids speak the local language without a foreign accent, and the Swiss people are very impressed.
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