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What a life script

http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/news/sto...chen--11696322

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What a nightmare for the parents.

OTOH, we can't just all grow our output, productivity, income, spending etc. every year.
That's also unsustainable.
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That or playing Call of Duty!
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Re: What a life script

That sad thing here that he still needs guidance as to what he should be doing with his life and no one is really looking at him as an individual.

He says he wants to draw and paint. Why is he not being giving training as a graphic designer or, in fact, art? He should be encourage in that direction. Maybe even industrial or fashion design, photography, multimedia.... something "creative". There are many jobs in those fields. It seems in Switzerland there isn't much guidance in those more artsy/creative careers. You work in science/banking or become a carpenter/plumber. That's about it.

And the kid is probably a bit depressed.
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Wow, Swiss news. They should go to England, this would seem like a productive member of society.
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Re: What a life script

and he says wants to be a "büchsenmacher" which is a gun maker.
but there is only one spot in ch available. here govt could step in and subsidise
the apprenticeship instead of paying social benefits...
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Re: What a life script

This is pretty common, in ticino there are every year about 10 of boys/girls like these. They often didn't get the middle school license but eventually get around it, go to the pre-apprenticeship program and get the motivation, with some help. They also grow out of it when they see their friends making money or going away to study and follow their dreams.
There are plenty of options for art in switzerland, but an art school is still a high school and there are still general education classes, so he has to be motivated.
Gunsmith is a very peculiar job, no use offering an apprenticeship if there's not professional outcome after, when there's an opening you just have to get it, but it seems a very cool job tbh there's probably lot of competition. It also involves a lot of mathematics, physics, etc. so it's a demanding job too.
I really don't like this boat paid by taxpayers, they need motivation not some military style navigation.
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This is pretty common, in ticino there are every year about 10 of boys/girls like these.
Bwaahaahaa. Nice one. Ten is pretty common. Not.

Look around in France or the UK and you'll find many many thousands of such cases on a daily basis. There are areas in some cities where this situation and the attitudes that both cause it and are caused by it are the norm - 17 year old kids actually having a job or in full-time employment represent a very small proportion in some of the worst parts of London.
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http://www.keepeek.com/Digital-Asset...raph5-en#page1

Switzerland is in a pretty good position, considering.
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Re: What a life script

TBH, my youngest brother was a bit like that.
Helped by the wrong friends, two much wrong drugs etc.
Got on track, with the right GF (also helped by the fact that he's the father of a son now...)
But I think they're both still dreaming of making a living from what they like most: music (she sings, he plays keyboard/piano).
But you can't make a living (much less raise a child) by performing on birthdays and wedding receptions...especially, if you eventually pay taxes and health-insurance on that "income"...


IMO, just like smoking on TV is frowned up (because it sets a bad example, there's no practical reason to disallow it - Retired German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt does it all the time...), maybe they should also ban shows like all these "Talent" and "Superstar"-franchises where basically an idiot performing some trick or a copycat of a popular song can win a million dollars (figuratively speaking).
Kids see that and think they, too, don't need any real skills in life to achieve wealth and prosperity...

I was lazy, too (well, still am, if I'm honest) - but I still want to get stuff done.
So I look for efficiency...rather than total slacking.
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and he says wants to be a "büchsenmacher" which is a gun maker.
but there is only one spot in ch available. here govt could step in and subsidise
the apprenticeship instead of paying social benefits...
Agreed! I though the same thing. There can't be that many kids who want to do that. They could make room for him somewhere, somehow. But I didn't want to push the kid to make guns. I'd rather he made art.
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