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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

If a bright flashing light annoys a car or tram driver then good, it means they have seen the cyclist. I have heard the " sorry i didnt see you" thing so many times even with lights that are bright enough to burn out retinas. Even though the person might "see" someone it doesnt mean that the brain registers there is a cyclist.
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

I wonder how well a POLITE hi-vis jacket would go down with ZuriPlod.

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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

Out in force again this morning fining people without lights. Police on road bikes as well as check points.
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

I'd say its a good thing that police are checking. Too many numpties cycling without lights and helmets in this town. Considering how cheap and easy it is to get lights, and how dangerous it is to ride in the dark without them.
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Out in force again this morning fining people without lights. Police on road bikes as well as check points.
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I'd say its a good thing that police are checking. Too many numpties cycling without lights and helmets in this town. Considering how cheap and easy it is to get lights, and how dangerous it is to ride in the dark without them.
No arguments from me.
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I'd say its a good thing that police are checking. Too many numpties cycling without lights and helmets in this town. Considering how cheap and easy it is to get lights, and how dangerous it is to ride in the dark without them.
Those who complain about getting fined would do well to consider that the policeman might just have saved their lives.

I freak out when I see almost invisible cyclists coming out of the fog on the road with no (or non-functioning) lights.

One truck on a winter morning going a bit fast round a bend? Game over.
Be safe, people.

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Out in force again this morning fining people without lights. Police on road bikes as well as check points.
what time was that?
for me, it was light when I went to work (by bicycle).
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

It's funny, just this morning at 07:00 I thought "Wow, the Sun's declination must have jumped overnight." as it really was quite dark. The German word "zappenduster" always pops into my head on the first morning of the year when I finally notice that summer is definitely over.

I live in an area where there are quite a few roads which twist through forests. On these stretches, even driving at or below the speed limit I am glad when I see a good strong light on a bicycle.
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what time was that?
for me, it was light when I went to work (by bicycle).
06:50. I've been here too long.
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

I wear a hi-vis yellow thingy and Iron Pig is taped up to the nines with SOLAS-approved reflective tape.
But Malta could use laws and take fines for cycle riders going about without lights, not that there a lot of cycles here but most of the free range cycles are ridden by blacks on their way to and from work, no lights and dark clothes, streetlights? Well we have them, don´t always work though, so in a worst case scenario the first thing you see of them in a dark night is a set of white teeth and two eyeballs and when that happens you are too close for comfort.
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what time was that?
for me, it was light when I went to work (by bicycle).
Sunrise was at 7:28 this morning. I hope that you left home after that!

I think many cyclists think that if they're in an area with street lamps at night, they don't need lights.
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Out in force again this morning fining people without lights. Police on road bikes as well as check points.
That's a good thing.

Driving the other night, those with lights were in the minority. After I started counting (after I nearly took one out on a roundabout), 10 out of 12 were riding in the dark with no lights. One of those was also going through a red traffic light.
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

May I know the legal definition of "light" for bicycles in Switzerland please? Currently, I am cycyling not with a front lamp, but a front and back light tied on the top of my helmet, plus, again not with a back lamp, but a light tied to the frame of the back of my bike. Will these be OK?
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May I know the legal definition of "light" for bicycles in Switzerland please? Currently, I am cycyling not with a front lamp, but a front and back light tied on the top of my helmet, plus, again not with a back lamp, but a light tied to the frame of the back of my bike. Will these be OK?
from memory:

white light (non-flashing) affixed to to the front of the bike
red light (non-flashing) affixed to to the back of the bike. visible from 100m
there are also regulations regarding having a front and rear reflector (of a specified size) and on the pedals and wheels
also a bell

maybe someone with the legal text can correct if my memory is wrong

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Art. 2161Beleuchtung

1 Fahrräder müssen, wenn eine Beleuchtung erforderlich ist (Art. 41 SVG; Art. 30 und 39 VRV2), mindestens mit einem nach vorn weiss und einem nach hinten rot leuchtenden, ruhenden Licht ausgerüstet sein. Diese Lichter müssen nachts bei guter Witterung auf 100 m sichtbar sein. Sie können fest angebracht oder abnehmbar sein.3

2 Die Lichter an Fahrrädern dürfen nicht blenden.

3 Für die Farben zusätzlicher Lichter gilt Anhang 10.

4 Richtungsblinker sind nur zulässig an Fahrrädern mit geschlossenem Aufbau.4
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

See here. Unfortunately the page is unavailable in English.

Take note that stroboscopes are banned but blinking lights (like, a couple times per second) are Ok.
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right well tell that to the person getting run over in that subsecond where attention is being diverted needlessly to some asshole with a blinking light in the distance. it takes time before you can "detach attention"

it should not be a survival of the fittest kind of thing. everybody trying to one up the next by making their shit more noticeable.

equal lights, equal attention

but besides that, its just plain annoying this added visual noise
A typical LED bike light puts out about 10 lux. (Let's be generous and say they're up to 20 these days.)

A typical car lamp, on low, has something like 700 lux output.

So... as long as we're talking about equal lights, equal attention, I absolutely understand why bicyclists in the dark might want to increase their noticeability by a bit of blink amidst all this visual noise. (The other option might be multi-thousand lux bike lights. Those exist too, and you know when you see one.)

If one is genuinely transfixed by dim blinky lights, one may be unsuitable for night driving. This is something to discuss with one's doctor. Otherwise, I'm reminded of the discussion about proposed daytime driving lights back in Australia - opponents proclaimed how you get blinded by those bloody lights. Um, no, you don't, not when there's a 100.000 lux lamp blasting away in the sky.
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...I absolutely understand why bicyclists in the dark might want to increase their noticeability by a bit of blink amidst all this visual noise. (The other option might be multi-thousand lux bike lights. Those exist too, and you know when you see one.)...
As a driver, I find the orange or yellow reflective vests FAR superior to solid or blinking lights on bicyclists when it comes to being visible. They aren't sexy but you can be more certain folks will see you in all kinds of weather and varying shades of darkness.

On topic: The police in Bern were pulling cyclists out of traffic for random safety checks yesterday, so if you cycle downtown make sure you check your bike.
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

I don't mind the high power bike lights as long as they're pointed down to the road and not horizontal. Otherwise it's like having full beam on all the time.

On my bike, I use the flashing light during the day and the solid light at night. Now that most cars have daytime lights on, I think it's important on some streets at least, to have a light on during the day on the bike.
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