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police checking on bicycle lights

Just saw this morning that Police was checking cyclists about their lights -- until the end of the month in the morning and then in late afternoon. So please check your lights
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Just saw this morning that Police was checking cyclists about their lights -- until the end of the month in the morning and then in late afternoon. So please check your lights
Do we need to wait for police checks to do something which should be done in due respect of all other road users and for everyone's safety?
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Do we need to wait for police checks to do something which should be done in due respect of all other road users and for everyone's safety?

YES


my bicycle is out of use at night


not just for the Police but out of common sense
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

until what time what you actually need to use the lights?
today it was definitely light at 8 but probably ok already at 7:30/7:45.
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until what time what you actually need to use the lights?
today it was definitely light at 8 but probably ok already at 7:30/7:45.
Are you asking:
-Legal requirement?
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-Common sense? (due to safety or being cautious)
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Are you asking:
-Legal requirement?
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-Common sense? (due to safety or being cautious)
the legal requirement.

i don't want to mix in the discussion about common sense
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the legal requirement.

i don't want to mix in the discussion about common sense
So far here's what I found:
The painful reminder:

Riding a bike at night without a light:
on road with light 40 CHF
on a dark road 60 CHF
in a lighted tunnel 20 CHF

And the law extract + explanation:
https://translate.google.com/transla...%2F&edit-text=

So it seems to be all about the definition of "by night" or when "wheather conditions are bad". I guess it means when it's getting a bit dark or poor visibility, and that it will depend on the police's appreciation.
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

I guess someone has to state the obvious.

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until what time what you actually need to use the lights?
today it was definitely light at 8 but probably ok already at 7:30/7:45.
For car drivers to spot you easily, then it probably wasn't ok at 7:30/7:45. Forget what the law says - you need to use lights whenever it increases your visibility to other road users.

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So far here's what I found:
The painful reminder:

Riding a bike at night without a light:
on road with light 40 CHF
on a dark road 60 CHF
in a lighted tunnel 20 CHF
...
Far less painful that being hit by a car because THE DRIVER CAN'T SEE YOU.
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Old 20.10.2014, 10:48
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

i think they should check for brightness of the lights as well. nowadays, with those LEDs, some people seem to think that brighter == safer.

im literally getting blinded by cyclists coming in the opposite direction.

flashing discolights should be banned as well. sure YOU get noticed but you are the only thing being noticed because it draws any and all attention automatically.

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I guess someone has to state the obvious.

Far less painful that being hit by a car because THE DRIVER CAN'T SEE YOU.
Definitely! car, truck, people, whatever-
Lights!
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i think they should check for brightness of the lights as well. nowadays, with those LEDs, some people seem to think that brighter == safer.

im literally getting blinded by cyclists coming in the opposite direction.

flashing discolights should be banned as well. sure YOU get noticed but you are the only thing being noticed because it draws any and all attention automatically.

Then you're the one who should be banned, if you are the driver who "can't detach attention" to a set of disco lights...

That's what driving is all about, being able to focus on driving and discarding any misplaced attention.

What then, we should ban all sexy women walking near the road because it drew your attention automatically?
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

Don't you have to have DRLs on bikes yet?

You can get small LED rubber/silicon ones for a few CHF that you "wrap" on your bike. They tale 10s to mount/remove.

At this time of year pedestrians should be wearing lights too
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Then you're the one who should be banned, if you are the driver who "can't detach attention" to a set of disco lights...

That's what driving is all about, being able to focus on driving and discarding any misplaced attention.

What then, we should ban all sexy women walking near the road because it drew your attention automatically?
Naw!

Just blank out the side windows
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

Common sence really. And therein lies the problem...

I would be happier if the police stopped wasting taxpayers money and concentrate on bicycle riders running red lights. On more than one occasion I have had to hit the brakes to avoid a colision with bicycle riders who dont know their place.
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At this time of year pedestrians should be wearing lights too
especially given the number of cyclists who use the footpaths
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Common sence really. And therein lies the problem...

I would be happier if the police stopped wasting taxpayers money and concentrate on bicycle riders running red lights. On more than one occasion I have had to hit the brakes to avoid a colision with bicycle riders who dont know their place.
Here we go again, a topic against cyclists!

PS: it's not WASTING taxpayers money since those police staff are anyway paid to do that. It's not hiring them especially-

They're just by the side of the road. Whether it's to control vehicles speeds, check lights, or eating peanuts, they are paid the same, consuming the same amount of tax payers money.

And those measures are meant to educate cyclists and facilitate coexistence between all type of drivers, unlike your comment.
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Then you're the one who should be banned, if you are the driver who "can't detach attention" to a set of disco lights...

That's what driving is all about, being able to focus on driving and discarding any misplaced attention.

What then, we should ban all sexy women walking near the road because it drew your attention automatically?
right well tell that to the person getting run over in that subsecond where attention is being diverted needlessly to some asshole with a blinking light in the distance. it takes time before you can "detach attention"

it should not be a survival of the fittest kind of thing. everybody trying to one up the next by making their shit more noticeable.

equal lights, equal attention

but besides that, its just plain annoying this added visual noise
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Re: police checking on bicycle lights

For every <insert mode transportation> there will be an idiot who does stupid stuff and gets away with it. Then there will be another sensible person who doesn't and doesn't get away with it.

The police are out trying to get cyclists to have lights so they don't get hit by car/trucks/buses - get squished - and die.

Having lights won't stop it - but it may reduce it occuring. As the nights draw in it is far to easy to be blaise about the ambient light.
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right well tell that to the person getting run over in that subsecond where attention is being diverted needlessly to some asshole with a blinking light in the distance. it takes time before you can "detach attention"

it should not be a survival of the fittest kind of thing. everybody trying to one up the next by making their shit more noticeable.

equal lights, equal attention
Ridiculous!
The "asshole" has just blinking lights to avoid asshole drivers from hitting them which means: hurting them badly, making them disable or killing them.

You are right it should not be survival of the fittest, if you are not able to drive and pay attention to anything happening on the road, you should be immediately banned.

And your failed justification is pathetic, how some "blinking lights" attracts more the attention than: reverse lights from other drivers, stop lights, flashing orange lights, animals crossing, aliens flying by over your head, etc...???

In fact it's more simple, you can't get your eyes out of some flashing lights? Do all other road users a favour: stop driving.
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What then, we should ban all sexy women walking near the road because it drew your attention automatically?
didn't you know that burqas were invented to increase bicycle safety in arabic countries?
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