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Old 22.10.2014, 21:19
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Today, as it happened, my car ran out of the gas and I had to park it at the highway stop Rose de la Broye (see background story)

so I walked to Estavayer, and found Garage de la Croix de Pierre with gas station along side. I told the garagist that my car is out of gas and parked at the highway stop. He found a container for carrying gasoline, and then drove me back to Rose de la Broye, and through out was very friendly

One of those moments where kindness by total strangers really touches you (and often gets you out of deep s*** as I happened to be in one )


======== background story ===================
As it happens time and again I tend to push things a little far , so far no harms done though

so today, on my way from Geneva to Basel, I knew I need to get gasoline. But was not sure where from . I wanted to stop at my favourite highway stop Rose de la Broye.

I knew I was safe till crossing Lausanne, crossed Lausanne and was close to the gas station on the autoroute, my favourite stop was 35 KM away, and I had still gasoline for another 58 KM, so I said lets go to the next one.

Now I am down to 20 KM, and then it starts to move down faster, anyways long story short. I was running out of gas faster and stop was not coming any closer. At the end, I am entering a tunnel 1.8 KM long, and I have 2 KM worth left, after half the tunnel, I was on 0 KM, and gas station was another 800 meters after tunnel. So I said, all right a well deserved end ....

anyways, some how car continued till gas station, and I managed to reach where I wanted to be , a little proud of myself

then I discover that gas station is out of order for whole day, so can't get a drop of gasoline, I did not know whether I should laugh or cry

was hard to explain at the station, as to how come I arrive at the station with no petrol left in the car

anyways the end was not as bad (see this thread) - lost about 25 minutes in the whole episode

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Re: Pushing my luck a little too far

You need to know exactly how your fuel gauge reacts on the mileage so you know exactly how much you have left. It is true that it goes down faster the less petrol you have compared to when full

It is also a problem in Switzerland, i think, there aren't that many rest stop with fuel pumps, restaurants etc like other EU countries. Look at Italy or France, every 5km and you have AutoGrill. And if you stop at night you can have hookers if you want!

In Swtizerland, I'd say every 30-40km on the motorway there is petrol station. Which is not enough, I have range of 450km with my car and I am doing 250+ km a day, so it is really annoying having to stop or driving to the next one on fumes.

If you go from Fribourg to Lausanne, there is only 2 petrol station the whole way (75 km) Lausanne Geneva there is 1 I think, to Neuchatel I think 2. When I go to Zurich the same thing, if you are hungry you still have 40km to go to the next restaurant.

And than they close at 9pm!

I guess 3.5 hours cross country is not enough for people to sleep or eat often on the motorway
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Re: Pushing my luck a little too far

true, roughly 30 KM or so between stations between Geneva & Bern

though, seems to be more between Bern and Basel, and incidentally today I stopped on almost all of these as I had to make/attend telephone calls
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Re: Estavayer-le-Lac (Garage de la Croix de Pierre)- a very helpful Garagist

It's irresponsible and dangerous to drive on the motorway with such low levels of fuel and to leave no margin for error, to allow for the unexpected - as you aptly demonstrated. Especially on a long journey.

You should contemplate filling up when you get down to quarter full, and pay attention to the distances to the next and following filling areas.

If you'd have run out in one of those tunnels, you would have been a hazard to yourself and other motorists. Not much better on the open stretches.

A fuel gauge - and therefore the trip computer - is only 100% accurate when it shows empty ....... at all other times you can't be sure to it's accuracy.

You were lucky, this time ........ and so was everyone else.
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How much did he charge?
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It's irresponsible and dangerous to drive on the motorway with such low levels of fuel and to leave no margin for error, to allow for the unexpected - as you aptly demonstrated. Especially on a long journey.

It's also illegal. If you had stopped on the motorway with an empty tank and been caught by the police, you would have got a nice fine (though normally they'll give you some petrol for your tank too).
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Much more importantly, had you had to stop in a tunnel- you would have been in big trouble- and if anyone has crashed into you- well....

So this guy at the Garage, is he your friend, your cousin, or what ? I get a feeling you are giving him a little plug here, lol.
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It's irresponsible and dangerous to drive on the motorway with such low levels of fuel and to leave no margin for error, to allow for the unexpected - as you aptly demonstrated. Especially on a long journey.

You should contemplate filling up when you get down to quarter full, and pay attention to the distances to the next and following filling areas.

If you'd have run out in one of those tunnels, you would have been a hazard to yourself and other motorists. Not much better on the open stretches.

A fuel gauge - and therefore the trip computer - is only 100% accurate when it shows empty ....... at all other times you can't be sure to it's accuracy.

You were lucky, this time ........ and so was everyone else.
absolutely agree, i dont think i will do it again myself.... thanks
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Today, as it happened, my car ran out of the gas and I had to park it at the highway stop Rose de la Broye (see background story)

so I walked to Estavayer, and found Garage de la Croix de Pierre with gas station along side. I told the garagist that my car is out of gas and parked at the highway stop. He found a container for carrying gasoline, and then drove me back to Rose de la Broye, and through out was very friendly

One of those moments where kindness by total strangers really touches you (and often gets you out of deep s*** as I happened to be in one )


======== background story ===================
As it happens time and again I tend to push things a little far , so far no harms done though

so today, on my way from Geneva to Basel, I knew I need to get gasoline. But was not sure where from . I wanted to stop at my favourite highway stop Rose de la Broye.

I knew I was safe till crossing Lausanne, crossed Lausanne and was close to the gas station on the autoroute, my favourite stop was 35 KM away, and I had still gasoline for another 58 KM, so I said lets go to the next one.

Now I am down to 20 KM, and then it starts to move down faster, anyways long story short. I was running out of gas faster and stop was not coming any closer. At the end, I am entering a tunnel 1.8 KM long, and I have 2 KM worth left, after half the tunnel, I was on 0 KM, and gas station was another 800 meters after tunnel. So I said, all right a well deserved end ....

anyways, some how car continued till gas station, and I managed to reach where I wanted to be , a little proud of myself

then I discover that gas station is out of order for whole day, so can't get a drop of gasoline, I did not know whether I should laugh or cry

was hard to explain at the station, as to how come I arrive at the station with no petrol left in the car

anyways the end was not as bad (see this thread) - lost about 25 minutes in the whole episode
You really are an irresponsible IDIOT !

There is no excuse to run out of fuel in Switzerland there are plenty of distributors everywhere.


As for buying fuel on the highway, which is well known to be the most expensive place to buy fuel, just confirms my initial statement.
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Yes I acted irresponsibly in this instance, would you mind being a little civilized -- we hear a number of times of ill-mannered EF members, perhaps you are member of that clan

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As for buying fuel on the highway, which is well known to be the most expensive place to buy fuel, just confirms my initial statement.
really ! , I do not see much difference, or even if it is, perhaps is 1-2 franks for a 100 CHF tank fill
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Yes I acted irresponsibly in this instance, would you mind being a little civilized -- we hear a number of times of ill-mannered EF members, perhaps you are member of that clan



really ! , I do not see much difference, or even if it is, perhaps is 1-2 franks for a 100 CHF tank fill
He was very civilized to call you an idiot for your dangerous, irresponsible and illegal behavior.
Something less civilized would have been to kick your ass in public,or to threaten to do so, something which you have mentioned yourself in this very same forum.

So suddenly you've become "civilization patrol"?

So move on, be quiet about it and don't bother debating that.

As for the fuel, yes its always more expensive in the motorway.
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http://www.carburants.ch/index.php?mod=prix
Note: there was a much better website but I can not find it now.


And this one can be used for your future references:
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He was very civilized to call you an idiot for your dangerous, irresponsible and illegal behavior.
ok, the original intent was to indicate that there is a good, helpful garagist in Estavayer, someone asked for details and I put it in here, I know what I did was not correct, but was over-relying on KM readings on my car

and any one who calls other one an idiot is an idiot himself, and those who feel that justified are of the same clan
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ok, the original intent was to indicate that there is a good, helpful garagist in Estavayer, someone asked for details and I put it in here, I know what I did was not correct, but was over-relying on KM readings on my car

and any one who calls other one an idiot is an idiot himself, and those who feel that justified are of the same clan
No, it's someone who called a cat, a cat. Well, in that occurrence he called an idiot, an idiot.

Anyway, funny you are still trying to talk about that topic, and failed to talk again about your previous behavior.

Maybe you're even the gang leader of the idiot's group, but also lesson-giver and "Hypocrite United"?

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you know what, you are right ..

how about an idiot with only capital I

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You need to know exactly how your fuel gauge reacts on the mileage so you know exactly how much you have left. It is true that it goes down faster the less petrol you have compared to when full

It is also a problem in Switzerland, i think, there aren't that many rest stop with fuel pumps, restaurants etc like other EU countries. Look at Italy or France, every 5km and you have AutoGrill. And if you stop at night you can have hookers if you want!

In Swtizerland, I'd say every 30-40km on the motorway there is petrol station. Which is not enough, I have range of 450km with my car and I am doing 250+ km a day, so it is really annoying having to stop or driving to the next one on fumes.

If you go from Fribourg to Lausanne, there is only 2 petrol station the whole way (75 km) Lausanne Geneva there is 1 I think, to Neuchatel I think 2. When I go to Zurich the same thing, if you are hungry you still have 40km to go to the next restaurant.

And than they close at 9pm!

I guess 3.5 hours cross country is not enough for people to sleep or eat often on the motorway
You need a new car!

Fyi, France is a little more distance wise. 50-60k between those rest stops that have fuel with ones that don't interspersed at around 15-20k. I think they seem closer together because France has spaced their stops more evenly along their motorways.
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