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Not possible. Someone misunderstood something. Maybe you are looking for the Israel english forum?
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They all got told yesterday who had to stay (4 out of 200) He was upset yesterday so I spent most of the conversation calming him down and won't find out the details until Saturday morning when he is released for the weekend. I only need to know if he has to do it and is there is anyway he can get out of it?
No one can be forced to "stay" longer than the boot camp period, but they can be forced to go the stairway to a military career, which, of course, means longer service. However, that doesn't mean it must be done in one big chunk.

I'm not quite up to date in this matter, but, despite some changes in the career options, such as a much shorter service for a future officer compared to what we had to go through decades ago, the basics still are the same. There is the boot camp period, during which certain people are selected to become non-commissioned officers or officers. The former have the option to do their training in three chunks (including the boot camp), the latter in four chunks, in special cases even more.

Please tell your son to ask his officers for the options, call the Hotline: 031 324 24 24 (Mo - Fr 08:00 - 12:00 and 13:30 - 17:30) or email personelles.FSTA@vtg.admin.ch for more details.

Short answer to your OP: No, the army can't do this. Period.
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What about me


The Herr Major gets all the credit typical swiss :-)
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Old 21.11.2014, 17:21
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Old 21.11.2014, 17:34
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Bit posh, latrine?
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Old 21.11.2014, 19:58
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First about the phone. My son has a 'handy' like most people now a days and was out with his comrades last night when he phoned. I don't know if it's officer training, He said they want him to work in an office. (Wonder if this is because he speaks accent free English) We are talking about the Swiss army. They all got told yesterday who had to stay (4 out of 200) He was upset yesterday so I spent most of the conversation calming him down and won't find out the details until Saturday morning when he is released for the weekend. I only need to know if he has to do it and is there is anyway he can get out of it?


Before somebody is chosen for advancing, he is questioned intensively. So that there is a misunderstanding. NOBODY can be forced into WEITERMACHEN, and this is MILITARY LAW and not just a joke. To get out of it he simply has to tell his commander (captain or major) that he is NOT ready to do as requested.


The Swiss Army does not need English Speakers in the Offices, as there are enough there, BUT rather out in the field, in touch with tourists. Sure in the times of the War in Vietnam, Swiss soldiers with a decent command of English were taken into duty as translators for Swiss-American-double-citizens-in-military-service
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What about me


The Herr Major gets all the credit typical swiss :-)

Sure, and the HERREN MAJORE also get the good wines, and this even free of charge



Yes, I DID refuse the WEITERMACHEN suggestion in spring 1972, but have to admit that I until at least 1992, whenever being sure that my decision was ultimately correct, asked myself a thousand times whether I SHOULD HAVE done it. Clear is, had I lived in an outside village, I for SURE would have accepted, at least for the prestige, but there is not so much of prestige for an army officer in Zürich
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Stay at ease Füsilier cannut and report back after cleaning the latrine.

well, where I was we were proud to be UEBERMITTLUNGSSOLDATEN der LEICHTEN ARTILLERIE, in my case to be FURIERGEHILFE AD INTERIM in one service, and later MINEUR of a MINEUR KOMPANIE
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In Switzerland this is totally impossible.
Not so sure, it depends on how old he is and if at what point in his service he is at. A few years back I had a colleague who for one reason or another had managed to dodge service until he was almost 30 and he was required to make up the lost time - he was a way most of the next 18 months catching up...
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Sure, and the HERREN MAJORE also get the good wines, and this even free of charge



Yes, I DID refuse the WEITERMACHEN suggestion in spring 1972, but have to admit that I until at least 1992, whenever being sure that my decision was ultimately correct, asked myself a thousand times whether I SHOULD HAVE done it. Clear is, had I lived in an outside village, I for SURE would have accepted, at least for the prestige, but there is not so much of prestige for an army officer in Zürich

Wow wolly ! But this is all peanuts ,the recommended me to go to mars. But I have the feelings they had alternative motives
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Old 21.11.2014, 20:31
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Not so sure, it depends on how old he is and if at what point in his service he is at. A few years back I had a colleague who for one reason or another had managed to dodge service until he was almost 30 and he was required to make up the lost time - he was a way most of the next 18 months catching up...

Complete different scenario
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You can also do what is called "Auslandurlaub" whereby your
Service is delayed by the length of time you are in Australia in
this case.


Of course, you have to fill out all the proper forms....
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Wow wolly ! But this is all peanuts ,the recommended me to go to mars. But I have the feelings they had alternative motives

Going to Mars with the very slow crafts in service takes long, so that they dreamt of getting you OUT OF ´THE WAY
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Before somebody is chosen for advancing, he is questioned intensively. So that there is a misunderstanding. NOBODY can be forced into WEITERMACHEN, and this is MILITARY LAW and not just a joke. To get out of it he simply has to tell his commander (captain or major) that he is NOT ready to do as requested.
What is your military law? The DR 04, the current Service regulations, clearly state that ADAs (members of the armed forces of any rank) CAN be forced to do the training for a higher rank or a special function and to fulfill the duties thereof in service and in civil life (DR 04, version of July 1, 2012, Art. 85 paragraph 1). Of course, when there is not a particularly high demand for candidates, it may be relatively easy to get out, but people CAN be forced.
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Sure, and the HERREN MAJORE also get the good wines, and this even free of charge
Where does this yarn come from? Is it in that military law too? In reality, there may bee some wine for cooking in the kitchen, but free wine for majors is totally new to me. Did I miss something in recent years?

By the way, addressing any military ranks as "Herren" got done away with about 40 years ago.
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What is your military law? The DR 04, the current Service regulations, clearly state that ADAs (members of the armed forces of any rank) CAN be forced to do the training for a higher rank or a special function and to fulfill the duties thereof in service and in civil life (DR 4, version of July 1, 2012, Art. 85 paragraph 1). Of course, when there is not a particularly high demand for candidates, it may be relatively easy to get out, but people CAN be forced.

Where does this yarn come from? Is it in that military law too? In reality, there may bee some wine for cooking in the kitchen, but for free wine for majors is totally new to me. Did I miss something in recent years?

By the way, addressing any military ranks as "Herren" got done away with about 40 years ago.
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Sorry but I left Switzerland 2nd sept.1965 ,soon 50 years ago
And you're still hanging around here?
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Sorry but I left Switzerland 2nd sept.1965 ,soon 50 years ago
Bloody hell, wasn't even born!
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Again, Thank you to Captain Greybeard! It's not looking hopeful is it :-( I can only suggest to him to talk to his CO and see if there is a way out of this.
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