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Old 22.01.2015, 00:22
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Bodenhaltung IS Freiland-Haltung
No, it usually isn't, as daffy99 has pointed out.

Consumers usually have three choices:
  • cage eggs, from caged, or "battery" hens -- which are banned in some countries
  • barn eggs, from chickens that are kept in a barn but are allowed to wander at will within the barn
  • free-range eggs, from hens that allowed free reign over open territory and also have covered "premises" under which to shelter.

Bodenhaltung simply means that the hens are permitted contact with the ground (or floor) -- which generally means they are housed in a barn. Freilandhaltung means free-range. If the hens are free-range, you can be pretty much certain that the farmer will claim the Freilandhaltung status, to justify a higher price or, if he prices his eggs at the Bodenhaltung level, to gain some price advantage (free-range at barn eggs prices).

I used to think there was nothing much in it, but now I find the look and taste of free-range eggs far superior to barn eggs and buy only the former.

Odd aside: I had a slightly wacky veterinary science lecturer who used to claim that barn eggs were best, because the hens are well fed and well housed at all times (although they never get to see the sun, and often live in crowded conditions), whereas free-range hens live in constant fear of attack from birds of prey ...
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Old 22.01.2015, 01:22
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No, it usually isn't, as daffy99 has pointed out.

Consumers usually have three choices:
  • cage eggs, from caged, or "battery" hens -- which are banned in some countries
  • barn eggs, from chickens that are kept in a barn but are allowed to wander at will within the barn
  • free-range eggs, from hens that allowed free reign over open territory and also have covered "premises" under which to shelter.

Bodenhaltung simply means that the hens are permitted contact with the ground (or floor) -- which generally means they are housed in a barn. Freilandhaltung means free-range. If the hens are free-range, you can be pretty much certain that the farmer will claim the Freilandhaltung status, to justify a higher price or, if he prices his eggs at the Bodenhaltung level, to gain some price advantage (free-range at barn eggs prices).

I used to think there was nothing much in it, but now I find the look and taste of free-range eggs far superior to barn eggs and buy only the former.

Odd aside: I had a slightly wacky veterinary science lecturer who used to claim that barn eggs were best, because the hens are well fed and well housed at all times (although they never get to see the sun, and often live in crowded conditions), whereas free-range hens live in constant fear of attack from birds of prey ...


Thanks. This explains why Freilandhaltung-Eier / free-range eggs are so rare and tend to be fairly expensive. When on Holidays with GrandMum in Schaffhausen we often went to Frau Hatt to get top new eggs. Her chicks were in the Yard behind her house and she each morning collected the eggs and sold them to people in the neighbourhood
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Old 22.01.2015, 08:43
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  • cage eggs, from caged, or "battery" hens -- which are banned in some countries
  • barn eggs, from chickens that are kept in a barn but are allowed to wander at will within the barn
  • free-range eggs, from hens that allowed free reign over open territory and also have covered "premises" under which to shelter.
Or, to use the analogy of office-work:
  • Battery - each worker is confined all day in his/her own cubicle, with timed toilet breaks etc., closely supervised by a big cock.
  • Open-plan office - workers are allowed to wander at will within their designated office space, but are denied sunlight and a sense of dignity.
  • Free-range - workers are equipped with a laptop and mobile and can work wherever they wish. Hot-desking is provided for when they need to be in the office.
Taking the analogy a bit further, you could also add another category - Self-employment (=wild birds), who have freedom and sunlight and dignity, but are at the mercy of predators (competition) and the gamekeeper (the taxman).
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Swiss quality is a myth..or rather a notion long passed by. The quality of anything is so far gone, it's not even funny. Unless you're talking about some highly specialized manufacturing, Swiss quality in reference to everyday consumerism is below standards of many industries abroad. Reason for that are the lack of competition and the horrendous high labor costs.
My older swiss friends agree that the swiss mentality used to be if something costs a lot then it must be good quality and it should last a lifetime. My friend's father recently past away. He had swiss made furniture in his apartment which was over 35 years old but so well built it still looked almost new. He told me his father paid over 20,000 chf for his bedroom furniture which seems crazy now but if it lasts 35 years then its not bad.
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No, it usually isn't, as daffy99 has pointed out.

Consumers usually have three choices:
  • cage eggs, from caged, or "battery" hens -- which are banned in some countries
  • barn eggs, from chickens that are kept in a barn but are allowed to wander at will within the barn
  • free-range eggs, from hens that allowed free reign over open territory and also have covered "premises" under which to shelter.

Bodenhaltung simply means that the hens are permitted contact with the ground (or floor) -- which generally means they are housed in a barn. Freilandhaltung means free-range. If the hens are free-range, you can be pretty much certain that the farmer will claim the Freilandhaltung status, to justify a higher price or, if he prices his eggs at the Bodenhaltung level, to gain some price advantage (free-range at barn eggs prices).

I used to think there was nothing much in it, but now I find the look and taste of free-range eggs far superior to barn eggs and buy only the former.

Odd aside: I had a slightly wacky veterinary science lecturer who used to claim that barn eggs were best, because the hens are well fed and well housed at all times (although they never get to see the sun, and often live in crowded conditions), whereas free-range hens live in constant fear of attack from birds of prey ...
impressive. you are really an eggpert.
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impressive. you are really an eggpert.
No, his quality posts are just setting a good eggsample.
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No, his quality posts are just setting a good eggsample.
What else would you eggs pecked?
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Re: Schweizer qualität. (or not)

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You'll probably get better return on them than the stock market- and unlike cars, they never lose their value.

Sadly not for the likes of us, but hey ho.
If you're talking watches that go at auctions, then you should keep in mind that vintage cars are an excellent investment if done properly... And the bubble probably still has way to go before it pops.
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If you're talking watches that go at auctions, then you should keep in mind that vintage cars are an excellent investment if done properly... And the bubble probably still has way to go before it pops.
buying cars as an investment is tricky. they need maintenance, insurance, storage etc.

better buy them because you love them.
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Thanks. This explains why Freilandhaltung-Eier / free-range eggs are so rare and tend to be fairly expensive.
As far as I know most of the eggs "produced" in Switzerland are free-range eggs (according tho this source around 70%: here).

I do not have a problem to pay more for "animal-friendly" products. But I guess some would disagree...

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What else would you eggs pecked?
These puns are getting eggsausting.
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These puns are getting eggsausting.
oh i had an eggceptional one, but i will not eggsacerbate the situation then.
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