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Tagi reports that some firms take the event as a part of their PR activities, for example, offering make-up tips for women
KLM sent me a nice email inviting me to "plan a trip with your mother, daughter, sister, partner or just friend".

I liked the "just friend" part. As long as she's female, I guess.

I wonder how I would have felt if I had none of the above.
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Old 08.03.2017, 12:37
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If that's all you see in that picture I'd suggest that it's your problem, not her's.
Hardly worth a groan, but if that is your game, by all means.

There is nothing but the picture. It's an attactive young woman, not much older than my daughter. If there were some message to be had from it, then I'm obviously too dim witted to grasp it. For the moment my response is limited to something similar to "Oh look, a gingerbread girl."
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She's not smiling, her arms are folded. Her gaze is direct and her stance is strong. Her makeup is not excessive and her hairstyle rather severe. She's also wearing pure white, thereby messing with The Madonna/whore dichotomy. Not the singer btw. She doesn't look particularly sexy, more like an asexual runway model. She's not, at first glance, obviously Emma Watson either. It takes another closer look to confirm.

I think she's issuing a challenge about gender perception and women being able to please themselves etc. Seems to have worked, judging by the discussion on here.

Or at least that would be the discussion I'd have with my students who would be analysing the connotations of the image.

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She's not smiling, her arms are folded. Her gaze is direct and her stance is strong. Her makeup is not excessive and her hairstyle rather severe. She's also wearing pure white, thereby messing with The Madonna/whore dichotomy. Not the singer btw. She doesn't look particularly sexy, more like an asexual runway model. She's not, at first glance, obviously Emma Watson either. It takes another closer look to confirm.

I think she's issuing a challenge about gender perception and women being able to please themselves etc. Seems to have worked, judging by the discussion on here.

Or at least that would be the discussion I'd have with my students who would be analysing the connitations of the image.
She just looks bored and hungry to me.
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I'm a bit surprised by some comments, although perhaps I shouldn't be.

Are you saying that her ideas and what she stands for have less value because she posed for that picture? Are you (gasp) telling her what to wear?
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I think she looks good, apart from the pseudo-40s victory roll hairdo. And thanks to the weird bed jacket she's wearing and the fact that she's probably a size 4 and 6 stone wet through,
Personally, I really don't like any element of that photo. The make-up, the hair, the background, the clothes, sheesh! But the thing that really bugs me is the cheap looking ruffle round her neck.

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She just looks bored and hungry to me.
And that is why you'd be sitting very close to me in my Media class, for dedicated additional prodding support.
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If a male actor were to get their bits out and trail them in sugar icing to talk about their latest movie, no one would take them seriously..
Just spent far too long imagining that...
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Women's day? If I were a cosmetic company, I'd offer 50% off all goods on this day only due to its appropriacy. Otherwise, I think it's a lot of hoopla over a simple fact.
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Just spent far too long imagining that...
... like "writing" their name in the snow?

Just thinking who I'd like to cover in icing... hmm...
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I'm a bit surprised by some comments, although perhaps I shouldn't be.

Are you saying that her ideas and what she stands for have less value because she posed for that picture? Are you (gasp) telling her what to wear?
I'm not telling her, or anyone else, what to wear. Given the picture, and just that, there is no clue as to what she stands for, except perhaps for "Look at me!". If it were my daughter I would probably say something along the lines of "Take a wrap, there isn't much warmth in that."
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I'm not telling her, or anyone else, what to wear. Given the picture, and just that, there is no clue as to what she stands for, except perhaps for "Look at me!". If it were my daughter I would probably say something along the lines of "Take a wrap, there isn't much warmth in that."
Read your first sentence and then read your last.

See what I mean? If it were your daughter, she'd probably be wearing that because she wanted to
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Read your first sentence and then read your last.

See what I mean? If it were your daughter, she'd probably be wearing that because she wanted to
I don't actually have to tell my daughter what to wear... her older brother took the job on sometime in about the 3rd grade.

She is currently doing a project on body painting as a statement. Everything really well executed, and very tastefully done, but not without some consternation from my son.

Apropos making a statement: here is how to make a statement.
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You've gone all Daily Mail on us. Care to explain what's inconsistent about posing for one very nice, tasteful and just slightly suggestive photograph and continuing to campaign for women's rights?

Could it be that you're just not able to see past the young attractive female image she's portraying? I see someone who's empowered and is using that to the best advantage not only of herself, but also in the interests of stimulating discussion about what "women's rights" is all about.

Good on her, I say.
Correct me if I am wrong but posing 'topless/suggestively' on the front page of a magazine is frowned upon by the feminist world. i.e the young girls who get a hard time for posing similarly in the likes of Loaded, GQ, FHM etc.

Just for clarity, I don't find her attractive at all as I am probably old enough to be her Grandfather.
I don't see someone empowered, I see someone with $ signs in their eyes and publicity for her latest 'blockbuster'.
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I don't think it's suggestive at all. And she's not exactly flaunting.

I'm trying to find the original poster for the Daniel Craig/Rooney Mara Dragon Tattoo film...
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Are you saying that her ideas and what she stands for have less value because she posed for that picture? Are you (gasp) telling her what to wear?
I remember when I wore a pink t-shirt (which was the fashion at the time) and my Dad asked me if I was gay.

Does this make him sexist or just a prick?
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KLM sent me a nice email inviting me to "plan a trip with your mother, daughter, sister, partner or just friend".

I liked the "just friend" part. As long as she's female, I guess.

I wonder how I would have felt if I had none of the above.


I no longer receive any of those. Maybe because I once complained as they had sent me an email on "what to buy for the woman in your life".
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For some reason it's very popular in all ex-"communist" countries, and it has always been like this for as long as I remember.
Interesting...

A new neighbor popped by all the houses in the Quartier this morning, handing out daffodils to wish each of us a happy International Women's day. A lovely gesture, I thought. (And an opportunity for an inpromptu coffee and chat, something I miss in our usually 'zurückhaltend' Quartier.) Apparently giving flowers 'in solidarity' is the norm in her country - which indeed is one of the ex-communist countries.

I didn't know the day is celebrated to that extent. Back home there is usually a nod to it, mostly political speeches or similar.

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So why an International Women's day?

Many folks here are too young to remember a time when things were not as enlightened as they are today, are fortunate to be able to take equality (in any sphere) for granted. That it seems like ancient history to most is a good sign - equality of opportunity should be the norm. I'm very happy that my nieces have grown up completely oblivious to what it means to face the barriers earlier generations did.

Well, I'm not quite old enough to have been a Suffragette, nor even the first generation of corporate glass ceiling breakers. But I did have barriers to overcome as I started out in the working world, experiences that made me cognizant of how difficult it was for women of earlier generations who paved the way.

It's good to take time to remember how we got where we are today.

(My introduction to political activism was the campaign for the Equal Rights Amendment in the 1970s US. Any other similarly ancient EFers attend the march on Washington in 1978?)
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https://uk.images.search.yahoo.com/s...g&action=click


I give up. I can't upload the picture for some reason. It's a topless Rooney Mara standing in front of Daniel Craig who has his arm around her neck/shoulders. It's black and white and not particularly in your face, but depending on work environment, probably NSFW.

Anyway, it was/is contentious. Who is protecting who? Why is she topless? Is the placing of the text accidental or deliberate? I think it's interesting.
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