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Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

Hi all,

My gf and I recently moved to Zürich and have been lucky enough to find a flat. However, we were so delighted to find a place that we forgot to consider one or two practical details, because despite the fact that the flat is quite modern, it only has one plug socket per room. And only one TV and telephone socket throughout.

Is this normal for Switzerland? My gf will be working from home so we have lots of electrical equipment (PC, fax, printer etc.) and, apart from anything else, I'd rather watch the football in another room when she's watching Dancing on Ice or X-Factor!

This isn't a big problem in the grand scheme of things, but we'd rather avoid tripping over lengths of cable extension and meddling around with dozens of adaptors. Is it a good idea to ask the owners of the building if we can have these sockets installed?

Any advice welcome!
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

I think it's a Swiss thing... I have the same problem in my apartment...
Compared to Australia, Swiss (or maybe even European) rooms don't seem to have enuff power points in the rooms...
I had to get few adapters
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

There's no harm in asking the owner if he/she is willing to install more electrical sockets in your apartment. If you have a generous owner, they will probably agree to your request.

However, the likely answer will be "No", but that you would be welcome to install extra electrical sockets at your own expense.

By comparison with your modern apartment, we live in a fairly old apartment, but there are at least 3 electrical sockets in each room, and there is also a TV/cable socket in each room. Sounds like the builder skimped on a few expenses when building your apartment.
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

Yeah me too, I only have plugs on one side of the living room, so my dining table sits in darkness.

Anyone know how much load you can put on 1 socket?

I also remember once seeing some sort of flat extension cord, which you could stick along walls, though it may have been a concept, anyone know what I'm talking about?
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

I'd say having too few sockets is not the norm. My first couple of apartments had TV/radio/phone sockets in the bedrooms as well as the living room. Those rooms also had sockets connected to the light switch which you could use for table or wall lamps.

The skirting boards were held on by screws, and one previous tenant had put an extension lead and aerial cable behind them so he could place the TV at the other end of the living room.

For the telephone you could get a portable one.
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

I think this is the Norm for Switzerland. It's one of the ways to 'cut' corners on costs. Have you seen the price of electrical sockets ehre, plus the labour!!! Feller has a monopoly here basically.

I had a simular issue and managed to add a phone socket in another room by running under the skirting board etc... required a few holes in walls drilling and some making good. Left this all there when I left.

you should ask the landlord and see what happens. Otherwise you'll have to look into the alternatives.
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

Well, I shan't make any comments about norms as we've only had one place here, but when our place was refurbished before we moved in, it must have been in the middle of the Great Socket Drought.
Terrible times, those.
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Yeah me too, I only have plugs on one side of the living room, so my dining table sits in darkness.

Anyone know how much load you can put on 1 socket?
2300 watts (230v rated at 10 amps)
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

Where we live we have lot`s of socket`s, but we still needed to buy an extention cord for our T.V in the bedroom because the ariel link was in the lounge. As we did not want to be tripping up over the wire, we bought some little white clips, and put the cord on the wall, and ceiling so you can not even really see it. Problem solved, my husband can watch football in 1 room, and i can watch what i want in the other.
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

I have similar problem in my kitchen (only 1 available socket) and hall (none!). I agree with Crembrulee that the least you can do is ask the owner if more sockets can be installed, just be prepared to foot the bill.
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

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Yeah me too, I only have plugs on one side of the living room, so my dining table sits in darkness.

Anyone know how much load you can put on 1 socket?

I also remember once seeing some sort of flat extension cord, which you could stick along walls, though it may have been a concept, anyone know what I'm talking about?
I think you can put a 10 amp load through a single socket so that's a total of 2200W. But if it's old wiring then play on the safe side.
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I think you can put a 10 amp load through a single socket so that's a total of 2200W. But if it's old wiring then play on the safe side.
Is the voltage here 220v? (I assumed it was 230 i haven't tested it)
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Is the voltage here 220v? (I assumed it was 230 i haven't tested it)
Officially it is 230, but this can vary sometimes down to around the 225 mark.
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Is the voltage here 220v? (I assumed it was 230 i haven't tested it)
We discussed this last year. Mine now measures 230V even though the meters which were new a couple of years ago have 220V written on them.
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

I think the socket thing just depends on who built the flat and when. We have a very new flat and there are at least lots of them near the ground as well as at each light switch.
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I think the socket thing just depends on who built the flat and when. We have a very new flat and there are at least lots of them near the ground as well as at each light switch.
This is it really.

We have 8x3 in our living room/dining room and 2 more under light switches.
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

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We dont have a monopoly at Fe ller, just 80% of the market. Seriously though, we sell like 3 million sockets a year and sales are growing. For a country of about 7+ million people, where are they all going???
Ooooch I msut have hit a nerve Sorry about that.

But you think 80% is NOT a monopoly ??? I think they also have control over the pricing or something like that.

Have you seen the pricing of power sockets or switches here??

Something that would cost a quid in the UK is 30chf or more here.

Can you explain that ??

OK my comment on lack of sockets being the 'Norm' was probably a bit extreame. I know it's not the norm, but it does happen frequently. I discussed this with a estate agent while viewing a property and she said: 'Yes this happens a lot, as it is a good way to save money on the construction' (or words to that effect).
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

We're in the process of buying a flat at the moment, it's still being constructed. There is a standard price included in the budget for sockets, TV/telephone etc. but it really is minimal. We then went through the construction plans with the electrician to increase the wiring to 21st century standards and were shocked at the final price quoted - something like CHF 9'000 just to add a couple of light switches, sockets and TV connections. We then reduced it somewhat, but at least all rooms will have telephone/TV connections and enough sockets so that you don't trip over extension cords all over the place. It really is hellishly expensive!
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Re: Plugs and sockets[too few in apartment]

Anyone know where I can get a high quality filtered multibock ? Its for studio use. The ones in Migros and MM are crap.

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