Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Living in Switzerland > Daily life  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 30.03.2015, 13:24
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
shopping across the border in France - tax question

I have searched this topic and read that there is a limit of 300 CHF and one kilo meat/butter/cream. Now I'm not sure if these limits are per person or car? Per adult person or when I'm grocery shopping with my kids I can go over the limit of 1 kgs as they get an extra kg. clarification from shopping veterans appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 30.03.2015, 13:31
Bagnos's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Basel
Posts: 66
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 78 Times in 31 Posts
Bagnos has made some interesting contributions
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Per person. Here's everything well explained.
http://www.ezv.admin.ch/zollinfo_pri...x.html?lang=en
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Bagnos for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 30.03.2015, 13:31
Belgianmum's Avatar
Roastbeef & Yorkshire mod
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 14,699
Groaned at 296 Times in 253 Posts
Thanked 25,812 Times in 10,414 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

It's per person so if you go with your husband and 2 kids you can bring 4kgs of meat.
The 300 chf limit is cumulative provided that one single item is not more than 300 chf.
For example you could but two single beds at 300 chf each ( two persons allowance) but you can't buy a double bed for 600 chf as it can't be seperated.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #4  
Old 30.03.2015, 13:33
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Wow. That is an excellent news! Triple fun then!!!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 30.03.2015, 13:52
JoMiFa's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Basel Stadt
Posts: 355
Groaned at 5 Times in 4 Posts
Thanked 328 Times in 169 Posts
JoMiFa has an excellent reputationJoMiFa has an excellent reputationJoMiFa has an excellent reputationJoMiFa has an excellent reputation
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
For example you could but two single beds at 300 chf each ( two persons allowance) but you can't buy a double bed for 600 chf as it can't be seperated.
You CAN buy it, but you are obliged to declare it and pay Swiss VAT (8%) when you cross the border.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank JoMiFa for this useful post:
  #6  
Old 30.03.2015, 14:14
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Now which supermarkets are your favourite? I'm a bit picky about our meat and would like to also visit a nice gourmet butcher there. Thx in advance
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 30.03.2015, 14:35
NotAllThere's Avatar
Modulo 2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 16,002
Groaned at 340 Times in 293 Posts
Thanked 25,211 Times in 10,259 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
It's per person so if you go with your husband and 2 kids you can bring 4kgs of meat.
The 300 chf limit is cumulative provided that one single item is not more than 300 chf.
For example you could but two single beds at 300 chf each ( two persons allowance) but you can't buy a double bed for 600 chf as it can't be seperated.
And duty is on the full 600CHF. No deduction. Note that you can however buy (travelling on your own) for example 2kg of meat and you only pay duty on the extra 1kg.

You can also, in my experience and from information given to me by customs, have joints of meat that are over 1kg, so long as your group doesn't exceed the overall allowance. Some people on this site dispute this, but I can't help that.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #8  
Old 30.03.2015, 14:37
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

That's good to know as I assumed each meat bag can't be over one kg (following the same concept of 300 CHF per item).
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 30.03.2015, 14:40
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 10,651
Groaned at 279 Times in 230 Posts
Thanked 19,403 Times in 7,402 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
Now which supermarkets are your favourite? I'm a bit picky about our meat and would like to also visit a nice gourmet butcher there. Thx in advance
DAVID in Mulhouse - award winning butcher - incredibly good quality product. Then Henner for Wine.

We just played dumb and threw a pile of receipts at the customs guy. He gave us far more than our allowance and then under-charged us the import duty. IMHO there is no point trying to cheat them.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #10  
Old 30.03.2015, 14:49
Belgianmum's Avatar
Roastbeef & Yorkshire mod
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 14,699
Groaned at 296 Times in 253 Posts
Thanked 25,812 Times in 10,414 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
You CAN buy it, but you are obliged to declare it and pay Swiss VAT (8%) when you cross the border.
Yes I should have made that clear although given that she asking about duty free allowances I assumed she would understand that forgetting that not everyone is used yo tax free shopping.

It's also worth pointing out that there is a minimum spend in France before you can claim the tax back ( 175€ I think unless it's changed recently) whereas in Germany there is no limit so you can claim it for every purchase however small ( if you can be bothered)

Quote:
View Post
Now which supermarkets are your favourite? I'm a bit picky about our meat and would like to also visit a nice gourmet butcher there. Thx in advance
It depends where you'll be living. The options in France or Germany for people living in Basel are completely different from the ones available in Vaud or Geneva.

Since you'll be living in Vaud I don't really think Mulhouse is a viable option but depending on your exact location there are different possibiliies available to you.

Quote:
View Post
That's good to know as I assumed each meat bag can't be over one kg (following the same concept of 300 CHF per item).
Bizarrely the meat can be added together so you can buy 1.5 kg of steak plus a 1.5 kg chicken and as long as the total doesn't exceed your allowance that's fine. I think because it could be divided up and still be useable unlike a double bed for example.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #11  
Old 30.03.2015, 14:57
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

I didn't know I could claim the tax back and it's worth it for bigger items. Very useful thanks.

We will be in Vaud. Our temp housing, where hubby at mo is, is in Morges. I'm going back and forth every couple of weeks till we find a place and move. We are looking at houses between St-Sulpice and Nyon (unfortunately we expanded the area of our search again but that is a separate topic). I was planning to go to the shops behind Geneva airport; however, am all ears for other/better options.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 30.03.2015, 15:08
Belgianmum's Avatar
Roastbeef & Yorkshire mod
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 14,699
Groaned at 296 Times in 253 Posts
Thanked 25,812 Times in 10,414 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

The ones behind Geneva airport are not awfully nice supermarkets although the large LeClerc has been done up recently and is supposed to be much better now.

The Intermarche at St Genis ( a bit further on from Fernay Voltaire)is not bad and there is Jim's British store near there if you like British food. ( bacon, sausages etc).

Otherwise based on that location i's say that Divonne les Bains would be your nearest place. I don't know what the shops there are like at all but there's a Carrrefour and another supermarket ( I forget the name now).
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #13  
Old 30.03.2015, 15:14
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 10,651
Groaned at 279 Times in 230 Posts
Thanked 19,403 Times in 7,402 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
The ones behind Geneva airport are not awfully nice supermarkets although the large LeClerc has been done up recently and is supposed to be much better now.

The Intermarche at St Genis ( a bit further on from Fernay Voltaire)is not bad and there is Jim's British store near there if you like British food. ( bacon, sausages etc).

Otherwise based on that location i's say that Divonne les Bains would be your nearest place. I don't know what the shops there are like at all but there's a Carrrefour and another supermarket ( I forget the name now).
Never been in the Supermarkets there but the Sunday market is superb. The spice stall, nougat stall and fish section are the stand out ones to visit.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #14  
Old 31.03.2015, 17:29
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
Never been in the Supermarkets there but the Sunday market is superb. The spice stall, nougat stall and fish section are the stand out ones to visit.
Thx. Which city has the market?
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 31.03.2015, 17:37
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Near Geneva
Posts: 3,227
Groaned at 35 Times in 29 Posts
Thanked 4,183 Times in 1,858 Posts
Anjela has a reputation beyond reputeAnjela has a reputation beyond reputeAnjela has a reputation beyond reputeAnjela has a reputation beyond reputeAnjela has a reputation beyond reputeAnjela has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

There's a large Migros in Thoiry, part of a small shopping centre that has quite a few other shops (H&M, le Halle, ETAM, etc.).... and a Picard just across the road if you're looking for decent frozen stuff.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Anjela for this useful post:
  #16  
Old 31.03.2015, 17:43
Belgianmum's Avatar
Roastbeef & Yorkshire mod
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Neuchâtel
Posts: 14,699
Groaned at 296 Times in 253 Posts
Thanked 25,812 Times in 10,414 Posts
Belgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond reputeBelgianmum has a reputation beyond repute
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
Thx. Which city has the market?
Divonne les Bains has the excellent Sunday market.
There are often mobile customs patrols in that area trying to catch people on the way back from Divonne so make sure you stick you the limits or declare any extra.
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Belgianmum for this useful post:
  #17  
Old 31.03.2015, 21:50
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
Divonne les Bains has the excellent Sunday market.
Oh god, I love going to crowded markets on Sundays and I thought I can only hike and bike on Sundays in Switzerland! Sunday shopping sorted!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 31.03.2015, 21:51
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Europe
Posts: 66
Groaned at 5 Times in 2 Posts
Thanked 30 Times in 17 Posts
Apsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeableApsrsj is considered knowledgeable
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

You guys are awesome source of information! Thank you!
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank Apsrsj for this useful post:
  #19  
Old 02.04.2015, 10:07
jellybean2000's Avatar
Newbie
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Chatel-st-Denis
Posts: 8
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
jellybean2000 has no particular reputation at present
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
The ones behind Geneva airport are not awfully nice supermarkets although the large LeClerc has been done up recently and is supposed to be much better now.

The Intermarche at St Genis ( a bit further on from Fernay Voltaire)is not bad and there is Jim's British store near there if you like British food. ( bacon, sausages etc).

Otherwise based on that location i's say that Divonne les Bains would be your nearest place. I don't know what the shops there are like at all but there's a Carrrefour and another supermarket ( I forget the name now).
Carrefour in Divonne is fantastic, great selection, delicious sushi counter, have a whole area at the back of the store selling other countries products
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank jellybean2000 for this useful post:
  #20  
Old 31.01.2017, 19:55
Newbie 1st class
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: geneva
Posts: 10
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
jaydeebean has no particular reputation at present
Re: shopping across the border in France - tax question

Quote:
View Post
Now which supermarkets are your favourite? I'm a bit picky about our meat and would like to also visit a nice gourmet butcher there. Thx in advance
To me the best one is the Carrefour in Segny. It's probably the biggest around and it gives a wide variety of choices. For a smaller one you should go to the Carrefour in Divonne which is only a few years old and pretty well done.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
shopping centre in france accross border from lausanne hayleyob Daily life 34 31.12.2018 14:11
moving across the border (france) saiya-jin Permits/visas/government 27 24.02.2013 13:45
Good places for shopping in France not far from the Basel border? Pancakes Other/general 8 19.10.2012 08:22
Tips for shopping across the border in France? anjulie General off-topic 10 27.07.2011 21:09
Fishing across the border ( France ) Joey82 General off-topic 13 09.01.2011 18:42


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 09:16.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0