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Old 11.04.2019, 14:27
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What fatmanfilm meant was in GB they get treatment "for free" or pay special treatment themselves.
What he - as 99% of the people - forgets is that in GB one has even less of a choice: You pay for it within the taxes (wether you pay extra for private in the end or not) while (for example in Switzerland) you at least have a choice re system/franchise etc.

It's the usual "Der Staat should pay for this .... and that ..." and you need to remind people that "der Staat" is us, the taxpayer.
If you don't have a job in the UK, you don't pay any taxes and you still get free healthcare. There are some people in the UK that won't have paid a shilling of tax in their life and still get free healthcare.
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Old 11.04.2019, 14:44
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This I know. IMO it's another tax. It makes it a kind of "private-private " health insurance and a two-tiered system.
Actually a multi-tier system as there are a variety of options for supplementary insurance.
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Old 12.04.2019, 10:15
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Actually a multi-tier system as there are a variety of options for supplementary insurance.
Yep. Plus taxes. If you can afford better insurance you can get "better" care. As it's compulsory any way I wonder why there are so many options. Idle wondering btw. It's not a system I'm part of any longer.

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Old 12.04.2019, 11:31
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As its compulsory any way I wonder why there are so many options.
As I'm on basic insurance, but accompanied a friend who was on the all singing, all dancing insurance, the only differences I saw were:

Do you want your hospital to look like an office block or a 5* hotel
Do you want daffodils or tropical flower arrangements on the reception desk?
Do you want champagne or a decent cup of coffee in the hospital cafe.
And the biggie... Do you want to hear the normal chatter of other people, or the strains of a pianist on a grand piano taking requests (I kid you not!)

Edit: I forgot about the sun drenched south facing balconies on the maternity suites, and the newborns being wheeled out to their parents' cars in designer cribs, then loaded into the car by a team of nurses.

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Old 12.04.2019, 11:57
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Are there 'more important' differences?

I'm thinking - compulsory - you can have x cancer treatment that is ok or for supplementary you can have this much more expensive treatment that has a better success rate, less side effects and so on.

Or are the differences only superficial?
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Old 12.04.2019, 13:59
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I'm thinking - compulsory - you can have x cancer treatment that is ok or for supplementary you can have this much more expensive treatment that has a better success rate, less side effects and so on.
When it comes to a matter of life saving treatment, the concept of cost goes out of the window whether you're here or in the UK. All chemo is expensive and cancer has no respect for how deep your pockets are. Case in point: Steve Jobs.
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Old 12.04.2019, 14:02
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When it comes to a matter of life saving treatment, the concept of cost goes out of the window whether you're here or in the UK.
No it doesn't. The NHS have lots of effect drugs which are not included in their portfolio because, simply, they are too expensive.

You can't very well go for private insurance once you've got cancer so you're stuck with what you've got.

I wondered what it was like here.
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Old 13.04.2019, 13:06
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In a special offer just for Switzerland, the Coca-Cola Company has decided to resize its 500mL soft drink bottles, reducing them by 10% to 450 mL -- and guess what, the price will stay the same. TIS.

But, and this is also kinda TIS in its own way, Selecta -- the company behind most of those ubiquitous vending machines -- has reacted by banning most Coca-Cola products (story in French) and replacing them with similar products from other brands. Good on ya, Selecta!
Yep, it reached Migros. The bottles are very slightly smaller plus not filled properly (which gives it away, the smaller bottle would not be noticed really). Price is the same.

I snatched the last one and will live a healthier life after enjoying it.
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Old 13.04.2019, 13:07
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More likely the new bottles don't fit properly into the Selecta machines...
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